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Message 1886422 - Posted: 27 Aug 2017, 16:09:06 UTC - in response to Message 1886419.  

If they knew they could face potential negligent manslaughter charges, they'd pull their heads out of their rectums & learn their jobs.
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Message 1886423 - Posted: 27 Aug 2017, 16:13:03 UTC - in response to Message 1886414.  

I might point out that neither Naval vessel struck by commercial vessels was navigating 'the open ocean at night' but rather were operating in heavy traffic lanes in the vicinity of two of the most crowded ports in the world. No excuse for the accidents but there was mitigation.

So you mean that navigating in heavy traffic lanes in the vicinity of two of the most crowded ports in the world at night without having a watch on the bridge is a mitigation?
Or what mitigation?
No. It's seamanship of the worst kind!
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Message 1886429 - Posted: 27 Aug 2017, 16:25:16 UTC - in response to Message 1886423.  

Need another Bull Halsey to lick them into shape :-)
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Message 1886434 - Posted: 27 Aug 2017, 16:48:04 UTC - in response to Message 1886429.  

Need another Bull Halsey to lick them into shape :-)

Hehe:)
But you have not need to being an American fleet admiral to navigate a ship at night.
Or day for that matter.
I think it's lesson one in every school teaching seamanship!
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Message 1886682 - Posted: 28 Aug 2017, 21:31:46 UTC - in response to Message 1886589.  

Again :-)

North Korea fired an unidentified missile into the East Sea, South Korean media said on Monday.

The move comes after North Korea fired three short-range missiles on Saturday -- all successful -- despite initial reports suggesting failure, according to the U.S. military.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/08/28/north-korea-fires-unidentified-missile-reports-say.html

North Korea fires unidentified missile, reports say
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Message 1886690 - Posted: 28 Aug 2017, 22:25:59 UTC

dAt's a BIG NO NO, NOKO.

dA 'ROOM' is Watchin', and VERY READY.

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Message 1886705 - Posted: 29 Aug 2017, 0:48:40 UTC

ClydeNotClyde said:

I hope you understand that anything we do, or don't do. Could result in the death of many, many, many innocents.


Was Not Hitler; Stalin; Castro; Un; NameDaDictator, Innocent in Some Ways? Their Innocence in What THEY DID or DID NOT DO, Certainly Resulted in dA DEATHs of MANY INNOCENTS.

RESULT?

DO NOTHING and...[Famous CHARP dots]

DOING NOTHING 'Could' 'Result' in MORE DEATHS than DOING SOMETHING.

Halsey Did Not Trust Soldiers NOT DRINKING and NOT SMOKING.

I DON'T TRUST DOING NOTHING.

I TRUST MOLTEN ARMAMENT and BODIES Burnt to Cinders as HARMLESS and a
GOoD RESULT.

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Message 1886727 - Posted: 29 Aug 2017, 3:16:08 UTC

I hope you understand that anything we do, or don't do. Could result in the death of many, many, many innocents.


And I hope everyone understands that what the round mound of pyongyang WILL do WILL result in the death of Many Many Many innocents...............

There is no good solution, there is only death and pain.................and I'd much rather it be by US, SoKo and Japanese bombs killing NoKo MILITARY personnel rather than NoKo missiles killing SoKo, Guam, Japanese and possibly US CIVILIANS.

The NoKo Military are culpable and guilty of supporting a madman so reaping the whirlwind should be their fate as well as that of fatboy.

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Message 1886739 - Posted: 29 Aug 2017, 4:33:00 UTC - in response to Message 1886727.  

Ah ha, a rationalization for murder.
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Message 1886764 - Posted: 29 Aug 2017, 12:05:47 UTC - in response to Message 1886739.  

Ah ha, a rationalization for murder.


Exactly the reaction of one who would appease.............perhaps it's Gary Chamberlain?

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Message 1886786 - Posted: 30 Aug 2017, 1:47:50 UTC

.....[CharpDots].....Call 'It' 'Murder' . I Call 'It' Eliminating Enemy Combatants. Like WWII Japan, ALL CITIZENs are 'Ready' for 'Battle', when Un Orders their 'Participation'. Brain-Washed or Not, 'They' will 'Join' In and 'Fight'.

Time to 'Turn' Armaments into MOLTEN PILEs and 'Enemy Combatants' into BURNT OUT CINDERs.

.......[CharpDots]......DOING SOMETHING is......[CharpDots]......

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Message 1886811 - Posted: 30 Aug 2017, 5:28:29 UTC - in response to Message 1886781.  

Never equate Gary and Chamberlain.
Correct, Chamberlain was willing to give the Nazi's whatever they wanted, except the UK, because he knew the UK would lose until it could build up its MIC.

Kim wants the USA knife removed from his throat. He doesn't understand if that happens he is out of a job and likely in front of his own anti-aircraft guns. He isn't Fidel, he isn't loved. His people obey him because they are dead if they don't, unlike the majority of Fidel's who love him, like some here love tRump.
China doesn't want a unified Korea and will ensure that doesn't happen, because they aren't stupid and know a unified Korea would be west leaning. They have repeatedly warned against moving in this direction quickly - quickly being before that can force a unified Korea to lean to China.
China is pissed at Kim because he has brought the THAAD radar to just a few scant miles from their border and it sees hundreds of miles into their country. They have lost a couple minutes of vital time from launch to detection in the MAD game.
China is terrified of the refugee crisis if a war started would wreak on them. 1/2 the DPRK would stream across the Yalu and suddenly China would have to house and feed them. (As China becomes more capitalist it has to care how others see it because it is good business to be seen as good.)

Do you remember, "Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall"? More importantly do you remember what happened after the wall came down? Isn't that exactly why you want a wall on the southern border of the USA?
Why do you think it would be different in Korea?

The worst possible outcome for China and DPRK would be the surrender of the ROK. Kim has no idea how to run a Capitalist country, and he needs the money desperately to feed his own people. His people won't put up with deprivation without an enemy! Much of his troops and civilians would rush south to have the western lifestyle. If he tried to continue his repression on those left, without an enemy they will have a coup. He would have to leave all the ROK government in place to keep the cash flowing. He loses several ways all at once.

Kim is a child having a temper tantrum. He is looking for attention. The more attention you give him the louder the tantrum.

In all the years since 1953, what has he and his father and grandfather done? A few artillery shells, a few fishing boats, a few very limited incursions and a few kidnappings. They haven't shown any real interest in starting the war again outside of a lot of hot air in a tantrum. He is crazy like a fox. It would not surprise me if he has a secret agreement with China if the US attacks first to have China launch everything it has towards the USA. Might have been his grandfather who got that deal. Remember there were a lot of those right before WWII. He seems to be trying everything he can to get the USA to start a war and have it be against China, not him, like a fox. And you want to oblige him and murder innocent civilians while you are at it. Disgusting and deplorable.*

If there is to be war Kim must start it and we need to keep silent and ignore the child until then. Eventually the child will tire of his own noise.


Oh, finally does the USA have a good record of Nation State building? What would make DPRK any better? Or, what kind of ISIL would spring from the DPRK?!


*Am I going to hear some clap trap about the USA needing to be the world's police officer because Kim does terrible things to his own people? I thought that making sure the USA stopped being the world's police officer is one of the reasons you supported tRump. Is that a flip flop, a forked tongue or a bald faced lie?
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Message 1886815 - Posted: 30 Aug 2017, 6:01:02 UTC - in response to Message 1886811.  

Never equate Gary and Chamberlain.
Correct, Chamberlain was willing to give the Nazi's whatever they wanted, except the UK, because he knew the UK would lose until it could build up its MIC.

Kim wants the USA knife removed from his throat. He doesn't understand if that happens he is out of a job and likely in front of his own anti-aircraft guns. He isn't Fidel, he isn't loved. His people obey him because they are dead if they don't, unlike the majority of Fidel's who love him, like some here love tRump.
China doesn't want a unified Korea and will ensure that doesn't happen, because they aren't stupid and know a unified Korea would be west leaning. They have repeatedly warned against moving in this direction quickly - quickly being before that can force a unified Korea to lean to China.
China is pissed at Kim because he has brought the THAAD radar to just a few scant miles from their border and it sees hundreds of miles into their country. They have lost a couple minutes of vital time from launch to detection in the MAD game.
China is terrified of the refugee crisis if a war started would wreak on them. 1/2 the DPRK would stream across the Yalu and suddenly China would have to house and feed them. (As China becomes more capitalist it has to care how others see it because it is good business to be seen as good.)

Do you remember, "Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall"? More importantly do you remember what happened after the wall came down? Isn't that exactly why you want a wall on the southern border of the USA?
Why do you think it would be different in Korea?

The worst possible outcome for China and DPRK would be the surrender of the ROK. Kim has no idea how to run a Capitalist country, and he needs the money desperately to feed his own people. His people won't put up with deprivation without an enemy! Much of his troops and civilians would rush south to have the western lifestyle. If he tried to continue his repression on those left, without an enemy they will have a coup. He would have to leave all the ROK government in place to keep the cash flowing. He loses several ways all at once.

Kim is a child having a temper tantrum. He is looking for attention. The more attention you give him the louder the tantrum.

In all the years since 1953, what has he and his father and grandfather done? A few artillery shells, a few fishing boats, a few very limited incursions and a few kidnappings. They haven't shown any real interest in starting the war again outside of a lot of hot air in a tantrum. He is crazy like a fox. It would not surprise me if he has a secret agreement with China if the US attacks first to have China launch everything it has towards the USA. Might have been his grandfather who got that deal. Remember there were a lot of those right before WWII. He seems to be trying everything he can to get the USA to start a war and have it be against China, not him, like a fox. And you want to oblige him and murder innocent civilians while you are at it. Disgusting and deplorable.*

If there is to be war Kim must start it and we need to keep silent and ignore the child until then. Eventually the child will tire of his own noise.


Oh, finally does the USA have a good record of Nation State building? What would make DPRK any better? Or, what kind of ISIL would spring from the DPRK?!


*Am I going to hear some clap trap about the USA needing to be the world's police officer because Kim does terrible things to his own people? I thought that making sure the USA stopped being the world's police officer is one of the reasons you supported tRump. Is that a flip flop, a forked tongue or a bald faced lie?

Nice flight of fantasy.............

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Message 1886819 - Posted: 30 Aug 2017, 6:57:43 UTC

Nice flight of fantasy.............


Nope. .....[CharpDots]......

Dat's All.

Now. Police = DEADLY FORCE = Dat's dA STATE TO BE IN.

GOoD Bye NOKO

dA 'ROOM' has.....

DECIDED

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Message 1886855 - Posted: 30 Aug 2017, 15:29:11 UTC - in response to Message 1886815.  

Nice flight of fantasy.............
you know that because...
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Message 1886862 - Posted: 30 Aug 2017, 15:48:38 UTC - in response to Message 1886815.  

Never equate Gary and Chamberlain.
Correct, Chamberlain was willing to give the Nazi's whatever they wanted, except the UK, because he knew the UK would lose until it could build up its MIC.

Kim wants the USA knife removed from his throat. He doesn't understand if that happens he is out of a job and likely in front of his own anti-aircraft guns. He isn't Fidel, he isn't loved. His people obey him because they are dead if they don't, unlike the majority of Fidel's who love him, like some here love tRump.
China doesn't want a unified Korea and will ensure that doesn't happen, because they aren't stupid and know a unified Korea would be west leaning. They have repeatedly warned against moving in this direction quickly - quickly being before that can force a unified Korea to lean to China.
China is pissed at Kim because he has brought the THAAD radar to just a few scant miles from their border and it sees hundreds of miles into their country. They have lost a couple minutes of vital time from launch to detection in the MAD game.
China is terrified of the refugee crisis if a war started would wreak on them. 1/2 the DPRK would stream across the Yalu and suddenly China would have to house and feed them. (As China becomes more capitalist it has to care how others see it because it is good business to be seen as good.)

Do you remember, "Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall"? More importantly do you remember what happened after the wall came down? Isn't that exactly why you want a wall on the southern border of the USA?
Why do you think it would be different in Korea?

The worst possible outcome for China and DPRK would be the surrender of the ROK. Kim has no idea how to run a Capitalist country, and he needs the money desperately to feed his own people. His people won't put up with deprivation without an enemy! Much of his troops and civilians would rush south to have the western lifestyle. If he tried to continue his repression on those left, without an enemy they will have a coup. He would have to leave all the ROK government in place to keep the cash flowing. He loses several ways all at once.

Kim is a child having a temper tantrum. He is looking for attention. The more attention you give him the louder the tantrum.

In all the years since 1953, what has he and his father and grandfather done? A few artillery shells, a few fishing boats, a few very limited incursions and a few kidnappings. They haven't shown any real interest in starting the war again outside of a lot of hot air in a tantrum. He is crazy like a fox. It would not surprise me if he has a secret agreement with China if the US attacks first to have China launch everything it has towards the USA. Might have been his grandfather who got that deal. Remember there were a lot of those right before WWII. He seems to be trying everything he can to get the USA to start a war and have it be against China, not him, like a fox. And you want to oblige him and murder innocent civilians while you are at it. Disgusting and deplorable.*

If there is to be war Kim must start it and we need to keep silent and ignore the child until then. Eventually the child will tire of his own noise.


Oh, finally does the USA have a good record of Nation State building? What would make DPRK any better? Or, what kind of ISIL would spring from the DPRK?!


*Am I going to hear some clap trap about the USA needing to be the world's police officer because Kim does terrible things to his own people? I thought that making sure the USA stopped being the world's police officer is one of the reasons you supported tRump. Is that a flip flop, a forked tongue or a bald faced lie?

Nice flight of fantasy.............


Nice point by point rebuttal.
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Message 1886865 - Posted: 30 Aug 2017, 15:51:33 UTC - in response to Message 1886860.  

Your choice.
As it's your choice to refuse to answer questions. Funny how you reply to those not directed at you. What I do find sad is an American who proclaims to be a teacher of history, not knowing his own country's.
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Message 1886867 - Posted: 30 Aug 2017, 16:03:03 UTC - in response to Message 1886862.  
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Nice point by point rebuttal.
I do like your irony sarge. Expecting an adult response from a ditto bot is too much.
Any points you wish to discuss sarge? Be nice to have an adult conversation in Politics for once.

I do see tRump has decided MAD nuclear war is the only option.
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