Well, why don't you tell us about the rest of the deal obama made with the aussies?

The deal was, we were going to exchange some of our illegals for some of their illegals. Do you know the difference between their illegals and our illegals?

Our illegals just want to sell us drugs. Their illegals want to kill us. Great deal, eh?

Weren't those refugees arriving by sea?

How are refugees from the ones on the "banned" list arriving in Australia by sea?

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...War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

Sounds like a great motto for the Trump administration.

...executively order an invitation to take all of australia's immigrant prisoners...

They actually weren't prisoners at all (more fake news and Trumple-speak, eh?)-
"Actually, the people are in offshore detention centers, not prisons, and they are considered potential refugees, not illegal immigrants. Under the deal made by President Obama, they would be admitted to the U.S. only if they pass through the U.S. vetting process."
They are only in 'detention centers' because that's what Australia does with potential refugees when they have no place to go. And "all"? "ALL"?, there's a huge difference between a pre-determined number (1000) and "all".

What is a potential refugee?
Many had a place to go to in the past.
Now Australia have offshore processing centres that is a PRISON to those detained there!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_immigration_detention_facilities
The offshore processing centres on Nauru and Manus are operated by Transfield Services, with security sub-contracted to Wilson Security..

Yes, and the dictators of those states have erected barriers which prevent people from leaving those states and going to more enlightened states; thus, they are prisoners to the whims of fascist dictators

Yes Guy economics and distance make many slaves to the "right to lifer's" whims. When one group imposes it's will on somebody that seems a lot like what slavery does. Your position advocates slavery.
You advocate individual accountability except in this case where the state makes the choice for the individual. That is not logically consistent.

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99 said:

...right wing Christian extremist Trump fan murders fellow citizens
after being emboldened by the rise of right wing extremism in the USA.

Yet Non-Fake News said:

Bissonnette indicated he liked Le Pen, Trump, the separatist Parti Quebecois, as well as Canada’s left-wing New Democratic Party, the Israeli Defense Forces, heavy metal band Megadeth and pop star Katy Perry

So, as likely, his 'Like' of K. Perry is dA Emboldening Element.

We dA People Yap. REAL Yap

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99 said:

...right wing Christian extremist Trump fan murders fellow citizens
after being emboldened by the rise of right wing extremism in the USA.

Yet Non-Fake News said:

Bissonnette indicated he liked Le Pen, Trump, the separatist Parti Quebecois, as well as Canada’s left-wing New Democratic Party, the Israeli Defense Forces, heavy metal band Megadeth and pop star Katy Perry

So, as likely, his 'Like' of K. Perry is dA Emboldening Element.

We dA People Yap. REAL Yap

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Stretching for dA yaPs nOw, eH?

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Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.

We dA People Yap. REAL Yap

мы люди говорит.
Больно, когда уже нет больше страха.
Yap.

An individual may not be able to break the cycle of poverty in his/her life, but he/she can damn sure make sure their next generation has a fighting chance to break the cycle.

But you took away the education department and taught creationism not science so they stay on welfare forever.

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Yes, and the dictators of those states have erected barriers which prevent people from leaving those states and going to more enlightened states; thus, they are prisoners to the whims of fascist dictators

Yes Guy economics and distance make many slaves to the "right to lifer's" whims. When one group imposes it's will on somebody that seems a lot like what slavery does. Your position advocates slavery.
You advocate individual accountability except in this case where the state makes the choice for the individual. That is not logically consistent.

If you don't like the state you're in, get out.

If you can't get out, don't blame me for the hand nature gave you, blame your parents for giving birth to you there or bringing you there.

And if you're stuck in a cycle of poverty, do something about it. I don't mind some limited welfare programs to try to help people break the poverty cycle, I do, however, resent a welfare system that becomes a way of life.

An individual may not be able to break the cycle of poverty in his/her life, but he/she can damn sure make sure their next generation has a fighting chance to break the cycle.

If you don't learn from the mistakes of your parents, chances are it was your choice. If you are incapable of learning, I'm all for the tax payer paying for Norplant.

I thought you were a Trump supporter.
The reason we were led to believe, that people don't like their present situation, was because their jobs had been exported and they voted for the candidate that promised to bring them back.
Now if Trump can perform this miracle, and others, will they still be unhappy?
There will now be in full time employment, the welfare budget will reduce and taxes will go down, they will be able to buy US made goods which will further expand the economy and afford to send their offspring to the best universities in the land.
Why move?

edit] And if these people move from the states that have lost jobs, presumably to the heavily populated very blue states, their next vote for president will be swamped and will effectively be wasted. Plus all those Republican votes will move away from the states that only just voted for Trump this time and therefore Trump cannot win next time.
Again why would he want them to move?

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Economic figures show that productivity in the US has actually risen as the number of US manufacturing jobs has fallen.
That is actually the number one reason why employment is struggling.

There's a suggestion in the UK that 250,000 civil servants could be replaced by robots.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/06/robot-civil-servants-could-help-save-taxpayers-cash-replacing/
Do the same over there and the federal budget could be cut by billions.

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The statement that

Economic figures also show 93,000,000 of us are out of work

is a crock.

Your extreme worldview (and those of several others that frequent these forums) is, it seems, informed by your belief in blatant, proven falsehoods. You can surely do better.

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Economic figures also show 93,000,000 of us are out of work because it's so difficult to create a business which employs people IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW.

75,000 pages of tax code. 3,000,000 people employed to try to figure it out for everyone else--what do these people produce? NOTHING, except revenue for the government and profit for themselves. The IRS can't even interpret its own tax code and employs many to harass people with complicated tax forms. This is immoral.

For example Section 509(a):

"For purposes of paragraph (3), an organization described in paragraph (2) shall be deemed to include an organization described in section 501(c)(4), (5), or (6) which would be described in paragraph (2) if it were an organization described in section 501(c)(3)."

I'm all for government jobs being robotized as long as someone is responsible enough to see when something goes wrong. (and especially there to pull the plug when the robots become self aware.)

But we digress from the subject of this thread. But then again, the subject of this thread was lost very early on.

Where do you find these stupid numbers.
You do realise that 93 million unemployed would mean ~40% of working age people would be out of work.

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Economic figures also show 93,000,000 of us are out of work because it's so difficult to create a business which employs people IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW.

75,000 pages of tax code. 3,000,000 people employed to try to figure it out for everyone else--what do these people produce? NOTHING, except revenue for the government and profit for themselves. The IRS can't even interpret its own tax code and employs many to harass people with complicated tax forms. This is immoral.

For example Section 509(a):

"For purposes of paragraph (3), an organization described in paragraph (2) shall be deemed to include an organization described in section 501(c)(4), (5), or (6) which would be described in paragraph (2) if it were an organization described in section 501(c)(3)."

I'm all for government jobs being robotized as long as someone is responsible enough to see when something goes wrong. (and especially there to pull the plug when the robots become self aware.)

But we digress from the subject of this thread. But then again, the subject of this thread was lost very early on.

Where do you find these stupid numbers.
You do realise that 93 million unemployed would mean ~40% of working age people would be out of work.

He thinks because 47% don't pay income taxes the number is correct.

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The statement that

Economic figures also show 93,000,000 of us are out of work

is a crock.

Your extreme worldview (and those of several others that frequent these forums) is, it seems, informed by your belief in blatant, proven falsehoods. You can surely do better.

It's just like Trump's statement about us sending, "10's of 1000's of refuges over there", when in fact it's just 1200 to 1400 "Christian" refuges. *face slap*

His numbers, like Guy's, grow well out of proportion to the actual facts (oh that's right, we have to work with "Alternative Facts" invented by idiots now don't we?).

Cheers.

The statement that

Economic figures also show 93,000,000 of us are out of work

is a crock.

Your extreme worldview (and those of several others that frequent these forums) is, it seems, informed by your belief in blatant, proven falsehoods. You can surely do better.

It's just like Trump's statement about us sending, "10's of 1000's of refuges over there", when in fact it's just 1200 to 1400 "Christian" refuges. *face slap*

His numbers, like Guy's, grow well out of proportion to the actual facts (oh that's right, we have to work with "Alternative Facts" invented by idiots now don't we?).

Cheers.

Are you sure it isn't 1984 refugees?

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The statement that

Economic figures also show 93,000,000 of us are out of work

is a crock.

Your extreme worldview (and those of several others that frequent these forums) is, it seems, informed by your belief in blatant, proven falsehoods. You can surely do better.

It's just like Trump's statement about us sending, "10's of 1000's of refuges over there", when in fact it's just 1200 to 1400 "Christian" refuges. *face slap*

His numbers, like Guy's, grow well out of proportion to the actual facts (oh that's right, we have to work with "Alternative Facts" invented by idiots now don't we?).

Cheers.

Are you sure it isn't 1984 refugees?

Well that was the number that our silly right wing PM said on TV last week over that "incident", but I'm not sure who was pulling his strings at the time (Big Business or Religious hands, but we did find out that it cost him $1.5 million last election to stay being head of his party).

But I guess that it depends on how many of them are wandering about the islands at any given time.

I believe myself that if they can survive that journey all the way here then they deserve to stay (as has had happened here many times before during the wars and "conflicts" in S.E. Asia), plus they should stay here anyway as they're perfectly suited (climate and experience wise) to help in our redeveloping our dying regional areas that need an injection of new blood and ideas that can only benefit whole communities here in the end (as has also happened before).

Cheers.