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Message 1878810 - Posted: 17 Jul 2017, 22:27:27 UTC - in response to Message 1878806.  

Conundrum,
How can Trump products be the best in the world, when they are not made, in the country that produces the best products in the world?

Facts are lies.

But which are the facts and which are the lies?

Facts embarrass, lies look good.
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Message 1878815 - Posted: 17 Jul 2017, 22:40:13 UTC - in response to Message 1878810.  

Conundrum,
How can Trump products be the best in the world, when they are not made, in the country that produces the best products in the world?

Facts are lies.

But which are the facts and which are the lies?

Facts embarrass, lies look good.

As Trump doesn't like to be embarrassed, then the Trump goods have to be the best. Which means he has to explain, mainly to his core supporters (Jaundiced, Mark and Dull here), that they don't produce the best in the world.
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Message 1878837 - Posted: 17 Jul 2017, 23:41:34 UTC - in response to Message 1878827.  

Fact: The loony left complains about auto emissions.

Fact: The loony left wants everyone on earth-friendly bicycles.

Fact: The loony left then taxes bicycles.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/17/first-bicycle-tax-nation-deflates-oregon-riders/

That's a very lob sided view.
Presumably the public wanted road improvements, so there was a tax put on fuel to pay for them. But quite rightly the motorists, of which some are also bike riders, asked why are the bike riders not paying their share. Hence the bike tax.

I've no idea if you are a bike rider, but mine is nearly 10 years old, so a $15 tax on new bike would be less than $1.50/year. I'm sure I could pay that and not feel any pain.
Diving 20,000 miles/year as I did before retirement, at 30 mpg, would be a lot more from the 10¢/gallon tax.
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Message 1878843 - Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 0:13:46 UTC - in response to Message 1878839.  

How about a "walking" tax? If you use a sidewalk, you should pay your fair share to maintain those sidewalks.

Then it is on to shoe & boot tax.
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Message 1878846 - Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 0:26:19 UTC - in response to Message 1878839.  

How about a "walking" tax? If you use a sidewalk, you should pay your fair share to maintain those sidewalks.

I do it's called sales tax, property tax gasoline tax. Get over it.
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Message 1878848 - Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 0:27:34 UTC - in response to Message 1878843.  

How about a "walking" tax? If you use a sidewalk, you should pay your fair share to maintain those sidewalks.

Then it is on to shoe & boot tax.

That's called a sales tax which you pay in Pierce County.
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Message 1878878 - Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 3:08:37 UTC - in response to Message 1878848.  

How about a "walking" tax? If you use a sidewalk, you should pay your fair share to maintain those sidewalks.

Then it is on to shoe & boot tax.

That's called a sales tax which you pay in Pierce County.

9.4% these days.
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Message 1878880 - Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 3:17:57 UTC - in response to Message 1878875.  

Looks like millions of people in the USA may not be deprived of their health insurance, after all. Mr Barack Obama's legacy here is solid.

Of course, in civilised countries this sort of matter would've never even arisen.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/17/us/politics/health-care-overhaul-collapses-as-two-republican-senators-defect.html
Keep on believing the New York Slimes. They've been wrong about most everything in the last 8 1/2 years.........Obummercare will be repealed and replaced or Congress will be repealed and replaced.

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Message 1878884 - Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 3:24:48 UTC - in response to Message 1878856.  

And why hasn't the state of California, which is run totally by progressives, implemented a single payer health care system yet? California has more than their fair share of rich people, why haven't they raised taxes on the rich to pay for free health care yet?
They are working out all the details right now. Who knew how complex Health Care is? Once it is adopted tRump will steal it and say it is a wonderful GOP thing and shove it down your throat as the replacement for Obamacare. Of course being Norquistian, the rates will be set at half the cost of running it, creating massive additional unfunded liabilities like the Nixon expansion of Vietnam, Bushes Iraq and Afghanistan. Looks like Korea and China are next on the Republican table.
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Message 1878894 - Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 4:11:20 UTC - in response to Message 1878884.  

And why hasn't the state of California, which is run totally by progressives, implemented a single payer health care system yet? California has more than their fair share of rich people, why haven't they raised taxes on the rich to pay for free health care yet?
They are working out all the details right now. Who knew how complex Health Care is? Once it is adopted tRump will steal it and say it is a wonderful GOP thing and shove it down your throat as the replacement for Obamacare. Of course being Norquistian, the rates will be set at half the cost of running it, creating massive additional unfunded liabilities like the Nixon expansion of Vietnam, Bushes Iraq and Afghanistan. Looks like Korea and China are next on the Republican table.


Is Guy still asking about this?
Corporate Democrat Blocks Single Payer Healthcare In California.
Now, if there's incorrect info in here somewhere, please let me know.
In the meantime, it just looks to me like more of politicians (both "sides") not representing their constituents but their donors.
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Message 1878901 - Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 5:18:51 UTC

Looks like another case of swamp filling by the tRump.
US Constitution wrote:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/17/jeff-sessions-wants-police-to-take-more-cash-from-american-citizens/ wrote:
“Thirteen states now allow forfeiture only in cases where there's been a criminal conviction,” said Robert Everett Johnson, an attorney for the Institute for Justice, a public interest law firm that represents forfeiture defendants.
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In his speech Monday, Attorney General Sessions appeared to specifically call out adoptive forfeitures as an area for potential expansion. “Adoptive forfeitures are appropriate,” he said, “as is sharing with our partners.”

“This is a federalism issue,” Johnson said. “Any return to federal adoptive forfeitures would “circumvent limitations on civil forfeiture that are imposed by state legislatures … the Department of Justice is saying 'we're going to help state and local law enforcement to get around those reforms.'”
Grover Norquist would not approve of this tax increase!
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Message 1878902 - Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 5:20:58 UTC - in response to Message 1878894.  

Is Guy still asking about this?
His head likely exploded when he found out that a Democrat won't deficit spend. Republicans will and they will be happy to drop the hat.
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Message 1878903 - Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 5:27:36 UTC - in response to Message 1878047.  
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The popularity of Bernie's movement and Trump's success in the election are not the results of their charisma alone but reflect a major discontent with the status quo.

Include the continuous false allegations from, and dismissed by the people: Ruling Class, their Fraud Media, the Democrat Party, the Alt Left, et al. Which is now, with increasing hysteria, including Trump Jr. Which even CNN admits there was no illegality.

Hopefully, and I have no hope. Those making and parroting these falsehoods. Will eventually understand that personal ethics and morality, are more important than Power or Ideology.


So, CNN is the interpreter and arbiter of the law? Thanks for that tidbit. I'll start watching.


Wait! What?
Chris Christie (a former prosectuor, yes?) had to go and disagree with CNNs admission of non-illegality?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/christie-getting-russian-oppo-research-probably-illegal-205306729--politics.html.

Look, I know sometimes you have to sort through legalese. You have to sort through intent of writers of laws. Yadda yadda yadda. But, come on. Is there not a dang thing in this country that we can say without a doubt is legal or illegal?!? Yes, bring evidence. Have a trial of peers. So on and so forth. Whether there's evidence a crime was committed or not is one thing. But do we have to quibble over every single thing regarding whether it is a crime or not???
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Message 1878904 - Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 5:36:13 UTC

Now that the Senate Health Care bill is dead, shouldn't it concentrate on the problem rushing towards the government. Namely the "debt ceiling", without some action the money is going to run out sometime in September.
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Message 1878905 - Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 5:53:16 UTC

Nasty Hobbitses won't deal with debt ceiling, mmm. Nasty Hobbitses taking the Ring to Mordor insteadses!
Oops, wait, Andy Serkis is busy being Caesar the Mutated Ape, now.
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