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Message 1873258 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 4:04:45 UTC - in response to Message 1873241.  

I'm telling you, if you libs keep shooting...
Shooting at people or their property is already illegal. You don't have to drag politics or entire classes of people who have nothing to do with the incident into it.
I believe he thinks he does, or he wouldn't do so. Unfortunately there seem to be a lot of people who "think" that way. Sad commentary on the advancement of the human race.
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Message 1873315 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 11:09:32 UTC

There is a bit of irony in the travel ban from Muslim majority countries to keep us safe, when no terrorist from those countries have killed anyone on US soil, but 30,000 people a year are shot by our own citizens.

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Message 1873319 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 11:21:12 UTC - in response to Message 1873315.  

There is a bit of irony in the travel ban from Muslim majority countries to keep us safe, when no terrorist from those countries have killed anyone on US soil, but 30,000 people a year are shot by our own citizens.
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Not really true. 9/11 comes to mind.
But banning so many Muslims to travel to US because they are Muslims...
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Message 1873327 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 12:22:17 UTC - in response to Message 1873319.  

There is a bit of irony in the travel ban from Muslim majority countries to keep us safe, when no terrorist from those countries have killed anyone on US soil, but 30,000 people a year are shot by our own citizens.
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Not really true. 9/11 comes to mind.
But banning so many Muslims to travel to US because they are Muslims...

The 911 hijackers were not from the targeted travel ban countries. Most were from Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is not included in the proposed travel ban.
Egypt is also not on the list, and some of the hijackers came from Egypt.

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Message 1873329 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 12:33:56 UTC - in response to Message 1873323.  
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The Hate Filled Alt Left, the Democrat Party, and the Fake Media. In their attempt to invalidate a Constitutional and Lawful Election of a President.


Well exactly the same thing happened when Obama was president as well, so please don't pretend any "side" is blameless or exempt. Did you forget the "birther" movement, of which Donald Trump was an activist for, which tried to deny Obama's U.S. birth thus his presidency? Perhaps your memory needs jogging of people putting his face on shooting range targets? Funny I didn't see you getting all bent out of shape over that "attempt to invalidate a Constitutional and Lawful Election of a President" then.

If you don't like it, pass hate crime legislation and make political alignment a protected class. I don't think you want to do that. Until then, people will spew inflammatory political bile, the vast majority of lawful, non-violent people will disregard it, and a few radical nuts from the fringes of either "side" will think it's sacred scripture and act on it violently... same as it ever was. If it wasn't over politics, they'd be shooting people over chemtrails or sports scores. People are still allowed to defend themselves and the laws are all still in place to prosecute them, so exactly what changes are you proposing to "fix" this issue?
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Message 1873336 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 12:51:25 UTC - in response to Message 1873327.  
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There is a bit of irony in the travel ban from Muslim majority countries to keep us safe, when no terrorist from those countries have killed anyone on US soil, but 30,000 people a year are shot by our own citizens.
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Not really true. 9/11 comes to mind.
But banning so many Muslims to travel to US because they are Muslims...

The 911 hijackers were not from the targeted travel ban countries. Most were from Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is not included in the proposed travel ban.
Egypt is also not on the list, and some of the hijackers came from Egypt.

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Isn't Saudi Arabia a terrorist country?
For instance Bin Laden came from there.
And they practice Sharia laws.
The hard way!
Even at Ramadan!
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Message 1873338 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 12:59:40 UTC

Yes, and that is part of the irony. We are trying to ban citizens from the countries that didn't harm us, and allow the ones that did.
Of course there is a lot of money in arms sales and oil between the US and Saudi Arabia.

Of course, regardless of which countries are affected by the travel ban, about 30,000 US citizens are shot every year by other US citizens.

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Message 1873340 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 13:05:07 UTC - in response to Message 1873327.  

There is a bit of irony in the travel ban from Muslim majority countries to keep us safe, when no terrorist from those countries have killed anyone on US soil, but 30,000 people a year are shot by our own citizens.
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Not really true. 9/11 comes to mind.
But banning so many Muslims to travel to US because they are Muslims...

The 911 hijackers were not from the targeted travel ban countries. Most were from Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is not included in the proposed travel ban.
Egypt is also not on the list, and some of the hijackers came from Egypt.

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The fact of the matter is that Saudi Arabia has been financing terrorism for decades (at least), but some people/countries ignore this fact because they don't want their oil supply cut off and Saudi Arabia has pointed the blame at other Middle East countries that become richer/better than them in the past (Qatar gets the blame this time round).

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Message 1873349 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 13:22:54 UTC - in response to Message 1873338.  

Of course, regardless of which countries are affected by the travel ban, about 30,000 US citizens are shot every year by other US citizens.

As for me, an outsider, I think you should fear your countrymen more than the very few terrorists operating in the US.
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Message 1873350 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 13:30:41 UTC - in response to Message 1873349.  

Of course, regardless of which countries are affected by the travel ban, about 30,000 US citizens are shot every year by other US citizens.

As for me, an outsider, I think you should fear your countrymen more than the very few terrorists operating in the US.

I agree 100%.

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Message 1873352 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 13:35:08 UTC - in response to Message 1873338.  

Yes, and that is part of the irony. We are trying to ban citizens from the countries that didn't harm us, and allow the ones that did.
Of course there is a lot of money in arms sales and oil between the US and Saudi Arabia.

Of course, regardless of which countries are affected by the travel ban, about 30,000 US citizens are shot every year by other US citizens.

Steve
Where was the outrage when Obama placed the same countries as Trump on restrictions?

Oh, that's right, I forgot, the great eared God could do no wrong........

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Message 1873354 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 13:37:35 UTC - in response to Message 1873349.  
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Of course, regardless of which countries are affected by the travel ban, about 30,000 US citizens are shot every year by other US citizens.

As for me, an outsider, I think you should fear your countrymen more than the very few terrorists operating in the US.

Exactly what I've been trying to point out to some here for a very long time now Janne, some of them just think that they should cling the the old "Wild West" attitudes that founded their country at all costs no matter what (that's the modern day self centered greedy barbarians for you). ;-)

Sadly I can only see things getting a lot worse over there before we can hope that they'll get better. :-(

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Message 1873357 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 13:54:06 UTC - in response to Message 1873352.  

Where was the outrage when Obama placed the same countries as Trump on restrictions?

Does it matter now?
Or should we bring the Bush and Bin Laden family connections up?
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Message 1873358 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 13:54:08 UTC - in response to Message 1873352.  

Where was the outrage when Obama placed the same countries as Trump on restrictions?


The two are not really comparable.
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Message 1873367 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 14:42:02 UTC - in response to Message 1873366.  
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You agree that the Never Trump movement, the Democrat Party attempting to subvert a Lawful Election, the Alt Left, et al.

Are just as Fake, Fraudulent and Dangerous, as those you correctly describe above.

Awaiting your equal condemnation of both.


I go where the evidence leads, Clyde... Obama was the lawfully elected president as no good evidence was found leading to a lawful overturning of this, and Trump is the lawfully elected president as no good evidence has been found leading to a lawful overturning of this. This may change but until it does "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" applies to everyone. I do strongly disagree with any political side even hinting or implying violence of any kind as a solution to their grievances, as this can set off unstable radicals and cause them to act, and it poisons civilized discussion.

As long as there is none of that, I expect that each "side" will try to unseat the other in such a polarized political climate. I merely disagree that one side has some sort of a moral high ground that some of their supporters have engaged in it any less than the other!
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Message 1873407 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 17:58:42 UTC - in response to Message 1873388.  

Fantastic, Republican Governor refuses to allow tax increase, state to declare bankruptcy!

California had that problem for a few years, then they got rid of the Republican Governor, now balanced budget.

Republican obstructionism has to end, they are the only party that refuses to compromise and believes a Pyrrhic victory is the best possible outcome.
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Message 1873411 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 18:57:14 UTC

WINNING!!!

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Enjoying dA HATE FILLED Posts by 'FOREIGNERs', and 'specially by 'BRAINIAC' U S of A 'Citizens'.

HATERSs. Keep 'IT' Up.

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California has among the highest taxes in the nation. Its base sales tax rate of 7.5% is higher than that of any other state, and its top marginal income tax rate of 13.3% is the highest state income tax rate in the country.

Live in San Francisco and they add 8.5% to the state sales tax making it a total of 16%!

Add property tax, taxes on most government services, fuel taxes, telephone "fees", surcharges on just about everything, federal income tax and the government at all levels authorize you to keep a total of just under somewhere around 40% of what you earn!

What progress!

We just need to keep raising taxes and things will keep getting better!


May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 1873413 - Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 19:36:47 UTC - in response to Message 1873410.  

California has among the highest taxes in the nation. Its base sales tax rate of 7.5% is higher than that of any other state, and its top marginal income tax rate of 13.3% is the highest state income tax rate in the country.
Live in San Francisco and they add 8.5% to the state sales tax making it a total of 16%!
Add property tax, taxes on most government services, fuel taxes, telephone "fees", surcharges on just about everything, federal income tax and the government at all levels authorize you to keep a total of just under somewhere around 40% of what you earn!
What progress!
We just need to keep raising taxes and things will keep getting better!

There are no free lunches.
Somebody have to pay for wealth care, infra structure, military expenditure and many other things in a country.
It may be by taxes or that you pay it for yourself when needed.
The latter option doesn't work.
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