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Message 1854468 - Posted: 10 Mar 2017, 19:39:09 UTC - in response to Message 1854464.  
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Just after Trump won the New Hampshire primary, he said numbers from the U.S. Department of Labor were "phony". So I assume they are still phony.

So how can the numbers can be *UP*?

Something like "phony" 5.1% unemployed became "real" 42% in one of his claims. No wonder Trump's deceived are out exalting his "achievements" :-)

You mean like these "achievements"

Fiat Chrysler announced its plan to invest $1 billion in Michigan and Ohio plants and create 2,000 jobs. The CEO said it had been in the works for more than a year and had nothing to do with Trump.
Ford expanded in Michigan rather than in Mexico. But it had more to do with a strategic decision related to investing in electric vehicles than any administration policy.
Walmart said it would create 10,000 jobs in the United States in 2017, but this was part of a $6.8 billion capital spending plan announced in October.
Intel announced it would create at least 10,000 jobs at a “new” plant in Arizona. But the chipmaker already announced this factory in 2011 with Obama. It just hadn’t opened yet.
SoftBank, the Japanese company that owns a controlling stake in Sprint, announced a $100 billion technology investment fund three weeks before the election. It merely announced, as expected, that half of the money would be spent in the U.S.
When Alibaba, the Chinese e-commerce company, pledged to create 1 million U.S. jobs, Trump said that until he got elected they had “no intention” of investing in the United States. But, in 2015, CEO Jack Ma had done just that and outlined a similar plan.
Stolen from WP.
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Message 1854477 - Posted: 10 Mar 2017, 20:36:01 UTC - in response to Message 1854432.  

Less than 2 months in office and *all* economic numbers/indicators are *UP*!
FAKE NEWS! Alternate Facts!

The very very sad part is, that is very likely true because politics is forcing good people to lie for a paycheck.
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Message 1854544 - Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 0:26:37 UTC - in response to Message 1854477.  

Less than 2 months in office and *all* economic numbers/indicators are *UP*!
FAKE NEWS! Alternate Facts!

The very very sad part is, that is very likely true because politics is forcing good people to lie for a paycheck.

*This* time, the news is NOT fake, Trump even said so. (I'm not kidding he really did say that..)
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Message 1854547 - Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 0:35:06 UTC

Dear Mr President.
Less than 2 months in office and *all* economic numbers/indicators are *UP*!
It's not because you have been elected.
Taking credit for this is bad. Very bad.
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Message 1854550 - Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 0:42:41 UTC - in response to Message 1854547.  

Dear Mr President.
Less than 2 months in office and *all* economic numbers/indicators are *UP*!
It's not because you have been elected.
Taking credit for this is bad. Very bad.

And here I thought all economic indicators were going up before he was our president. Silly me and my alternative facts.
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Message 1854567 - Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 1:46:20 UTC - in response to Message 1854544.  

Less than 2 months in office and *all* economic numbers/indicators are *UP*!
FAKE NEWS! Alternate Facts!

The very very sad part is, that is very likely true because politics is forcing good people to lie for a paycheck.

*This* time, the news is NOT fake, Trump even said so. (I'm not kidding he really did say that..)

The Sky is Falling!
The Sky is Falling!
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Message 1854570 - Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 1:48:48 UTC - in response to Message 1854561.  

Just as bad as obama accepting the Nobel Peace Prize less than 8 months into his reign.
Nothing wrong with taking, accepting, free money.

Funny how you make the recipient at fault. Isn't that just like saying a woman had a rape coming because her skirt was too short?
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Message 1854572 - Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 1:53:19 UTC - in response to Message 1854561.  

I wonder why Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize.
Makes no sense.
Over years there has been many state leaders getting the prize.
Oh, Putin and Trump are nominated as well for 2017!
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Message 1854573 - Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 2:00:15 UTC - in response to Message 1854570.  
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Funny how you make the recipient at fault.


He does have a point though. Anwar Al-Aulaqi was a U.S. citizen. he was never convicted or even charged with a crime, yet President Obama ordered his assassination by the CIA, which was carried out by drone strike. (and yes, this is only one example.) Not something I would expect would qualify one for a Nobel Peace Prize.

(Note that I linked to the ACLU's edition of this deliberately to show agreement from disparate political stances that equally disagree with his actions.)
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Message 1854581 - Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 2:39:38 UTC - in response to Message 1854561.  

a) I would never condone killing someone over any crime. That is entirely against my beliefs.

b) you act as if he's the first POTUS to sign off on someone's death outside of the rule of domestic or international law... Part of the job of POTUS is to make decisions like this based on the information they have at hand. I'm sure it's in the job description.
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Message 1854601 - Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 3:25:47 UTC

The most popular president of our nation was...............drum roll please..............
My beloved JFK.
And this is an official Gallup poll.

How does this fit in with the current conversation?
Because, although he was the most popular president our nation ever had, he also had his share of dirty dealings.
Bay of Pigs for starters. Infidelity for a second.

But years after his death, the public still reveres him.

I am sure Obama will not have such a legacy.
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Message 1854610 - Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 3:46:12 UTC
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After Vladimir Trump, Obama will forever be remembered as a great president if he wouldn't already have been.
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Message 1854618 - Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 4:02:06 UTC - in response to Message 1854581.  

b) you act as if he's the first POTUS to sign off on someone's death outside of the rule of domestic or international law...


Certainly not... I'm sure other presidents have done worse. (Iraq, anyone?) But that doesn't excuse the act... I don't get to claim in court that I shouldn't be found guilty because other people did worse things. I'd be rightly laughed at... my actions must stand on their own.

Listening to "intel" over international law is what got the Iraq debacle started and Obama would have been wise to heed that lesson rather than violating domestic and international law for something that was highly unlikely to have been an immediate threat necessitating the response taken.
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Message 1854619 - Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 4:02:55 UTC - in response to Message 1854610.  

After Vladimir Trump, Obama will forever be remembered as a great president if he wouldn't already have been.

I very much doubt that, snowfake.
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Message 1854621 - Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 4:13:50 UTC - in response to Message 1854619.  

Mark JFK did so much wrong, Viet Nam especially we are still paying the price, get over your delusions.
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Message 1854628 - Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 4:33:45 UTC - in response to Message 1854573.  

Funny how you make the recipient at fault.


He does have a point though. Anwar Al-Aulaqi was a U.S. citizen. he was never convicted or even charged with a crime, yet President Obama ordered his assassination by the CIA, which was carried out by drone strike. (and yes, this is only one example.) Not something I would expect would qualify one for a Nobel Peace Prize.
His prize was awarded well before this. The issue isn't with Obama, but the prize committee. However because or Mr. Obama's race, it is his fault, just like a women who wears a short skirt is at fault and not her attacker. However the 1994 peace prize award certainly set the precedent, giving it to an avowed terrorist.

So is it Obama's fault or the prize committee?
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Message 1854634 - Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 4:42:37 UTC - in response to Message 1854621.  

Mark JFK did so much wrong, Viet Nam especially we are still paying the price, get over your delusions.

Explain to me, what am I delusional about?
I posted a Gallup poll result reflecting what the American public thinks about JFK.
You are debating the entire United States about what they think about JFK?
Or just trying to pick a fight with ME?
I understand and have admitted, with great difficulty, my understanding of the man's faults.
Methinks you are trolling, and I do not submit.
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Message 1854644 - Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 4:58:32 UTC - in response to Message 1854630.  
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Dear Mr President.
Less than 2 months in office and *all* economic numbers/indicators are *UP*!
It's not because you have been elected.
Taking credit for this is bad. Very bad.

janne...
Since ALL Leaders do this. Do you agree with me, that ALL Leaders are bad. Very bad.
Attacking just Trump for this, is bad. very bad.

I don't agree to that ALL Leaders are bad.
I just think Trump is a bad leader of a country.
"Attacking" him for being a bad leader is very well justified.
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Message 1854646 - Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 5:02:56 UTC - in response to Message 1854641.  
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kittyman...

They are, what they are. Only an idiot can take their attacks personally..

Just continually point out their hate and lies. While enjoying their intellectual squirming.

I do not mean to diminish them.
It is not possible, for they are too many in number and too many to put to the gallows should the truth ever really come out.
They shall always spit out untruths,.ever since that bullet silenced the truth back in Daily Plaza.

Before I die, I only wish the truth to come out.

But, I know it never shall. Too much money and power in play and not enough truth.
Power, once gained, shall only be regained at once price, and that is all shall perish to restart anew.


You are just Rumps against Trump.
Just rumps.
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