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Message 1849986 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 16:52:13 UTC - in response to Message 1849977.  

That's how it goes when your government is bought and paid for. The government works for the oligarchs, not the masses.


But! But! Trump is draining the swamp?!?

Sarge...

Dangerous Trump is correct in his attempt.

Problem: As with the necessary destruction of the Marxists in Germany in the '30s. It resulted in...

Well... We know what.


It is not an attempt.
It is saying one thing while doing another.

Sarge...

100% correct. But for both sides.

But of course we now see that politics has become polarised and any bill introduced by one party is 100% rejected by the other party.

Noting the Democrat ACA.

It's both sides.


The PEOPLE who are not worshipping leaders or demonizing them are our hope.
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Message 1850000 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 17:58:13 UTC - in response to Message 1849986.  

The PEOPLE who are not worshipping leaders or demonizing them are our hope.
the apathetic? ROTFLMAO!
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Message 1850007 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 18:45:00 UTC - in response to Message 1849946.  
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As a concession to the R's, the ACA did not implement this
(single payer)

COW FECES bobby, gary, ex!

NOT A SINGLE REPUBLICAN VOTED FOR THE ACA. IT BELONGS WHOLEY TO THE DEMOCRATS. (just another example of selective amnesia...)

As a matter of fact, 4 or 5 democrat senators had to be BRIBED to get to the final 59 in the senate. (yes, they even had to push the limits of sanity to say a 60th voted for it)

It's failing because the American people DON'T WANT IT. Only the dictators want it. The dictators already decide if you're allowed to be born or not. The dictators want to decide when you DIE.

The democrats used to (edit: still do) refer to you supporters of single-payer (and other seizures of power) as "house negros." They just don't say it out loud these days, they use third-party encryption to hide it from you. Wake up! Quit taking the blue pills! Take a RED pill! Morpheus cannot explain it to you; you must SEE IT.


providing a service is NOT a "seizure of power".

And seriously, the ACA was designed after 'Romneycare'- a REPUBLICAN plan.
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Message 1850022 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 20:13:11 UTC - in response to Message 1850007.  

As a concession to the R's, the ACA did not implement this
(single payer)

COW FECES bobby, gary, ex!

NOT A SINGLE REPUBLICAN VOTED FOR THE ACA. IT BELONGS WHOLEY TO THE DEMOCRATS. (just another example of selective amnesia...)

As a matter of fact, 4 or 5 democrat senators had to be BRIBED to get to the final 59 in the senate. (yes, they even had to push the limits of sanity to say a 60th voted for it)

It's failing because the American people DON'T WANT IT. Only the dictators want it. The dictators already decide if you're allowed to be born or not. The dictators want to decide when you DIE.

The democrats used to (edit: still do) refer to you supporters of single-payer (and other seizures of power) as "house negros." They just don't say it out loud these days, they use third-party encryption to hide it from you. Wake up! Quit taking the blue pills! Take a RED pill! Morpheus cannot explain it to you; you must SEE IT.


providing a service is NOT a "seizure of power".

And seriously, the ACA was designed after 'Romneycare'- a REPUBLICAN plan.


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Message 1850025 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 20:48:25 UTC

@Guy,
Little quiz for you, as you know so much about Romneycare and Obamacare, it will only take you a few minutes.
I will give the source after you have answered, as the source page of the questions also allows you to get to the answers.

Are you smart enough to tell the difference between ObamaCare and RomneyCare? Here are 10 descriptions of the plans that we got from the legislation that created the two plans, official summaries, private reports and interviews with experts. See if you know whether each description is for ObamaCare or RomneyCare.

1. "Individuals who are deemed able to afford health insurance but fail to comply are subject to penalties for each month of non-compliance in the tax year ... . The penalties, which will be imposed through the individual’s personal income tax return, shall not exceed 50% of the minimum monthly insurance premium."

2. Employers "who employ 11 or more full-time equivalent employees" and do not make a "fair and reasonable contribution" to their employees' health insurance are required to pay a fine.

3. "Tax credits to make it easier for the middle class to afford insurance will become available for people with income between 100 percent and 400 percent of the poverty line who are not eligible for other affordable coverage."

4. Children and adolescents up to age 18 "whose financial eligibility as determined by the division exceeds 133 per cent but is not more than 300 per cent of the federal poverty level" will be eligible for Medicaid.

5. "Americans who earn less than 133 percent of the poverty level (approximately $14,000 for an individual and $29,000 for a family of four) will be eligible to enroll in Medicaid."

6. A recent poll asked people whether they had a generally favorable or unfavorable view of the health plan. Responses split 41 percent and 41 percent between favoring and not favoring. Another 18 percent said they were undecided.

7. Small businesses qualify for tax credits if they pay for at least half of the workers' health insurance. A small business is defined as having fewer than 25 full-time workers paid average annual wages below $50,000.

8. Experience shows the plan is not significantly going to lower costs. Supporters of the law are actively considering new legislation aimed at cost containment.

9. The plan creates a Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute "to conduct research to provide information about the best available evidence to help patients and their health care providers make more informed decisions."

10. For individuals who make more than $200,000 or couples that make more than $250,000, the plan increases Medicare taxes on wages in 2013 by 0.9 percent and imposes a 3.8 percent tax on investment income.

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Message 1850077 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 0:51:59 UTC - in response to Message 1850062.  
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So, you and ex are going to continue to assert there's no such thing as a republican who is pushing for "progress" towards socialism/marxism/communism.

ok.

As a republican almost certainly a conservative and supports capitalism, then by definition a republican cannot support socialism/marxism/communism.

Just like there's no such thing as an extremist democrat. They're all centrists....

ok.

If you mean an extremist democrat is a socialist then you don't understand. Democrats and Socialists are two different political ideologies.
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Message 1850087 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 1:03:48 UTC - in response to Message 1850077.  

So, you and ex are going to continue to assert there's no such thing as a republican who is pushing for "progress" towards socialism/marxism/communism.

ok.

As a republican almost certainly a conservative and supports capitalism, then by definition a republican cannot support socialism/marxism/communism.

Just like there's no such thing as an extremist democrat. They're all centrists....

ok.

If you mean an extremist democrat is a socialist then you don't understand. Democrats and Socialists are two different political ideologies.

@WK, guy invents meanings of words so they fit his preconceived fantasy notions.

to him a republican is not a conservative. they are Marxists and have no discernible difference from a democrat. only the most extreme tea party is conservative.
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Message 1850089 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 1:05:24 UTC - in response to Message 1850083.  

If you mean an extremist democrat is a socialist then you don't understand. Democrats and Socialists are two different political ideologies.

Which Party do American Socialists vote for?

Independents.
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Message 1850091 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 1:07:40 UTC - in response to Message 1850087.  

@WK, guy invents meanings of words so they fit his preconceived fantasy notions.

to him a republican is not a conservative. they are Marxists and have no discernible difference from a democrat. only the most extreme tea party is conservative.

So like most of the other subjects he possibly attended, he failed "Politics 101" then.
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Message 1850092 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 1:11:36 UTC - in response to Message 1850091.  

@WK, guy invents meanings of words so they fit his preconceived fantasy notions.

to him a republican is not a conservative. they are Marxists and have no discernible difference from a democrat. only the most extreme tea party is conservative.

So like most of the other subjects he possibly attended, he failed "Politics 101" then.

Can't say that, he might have been on meds then.
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Message 1850096 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 1:20:45 UTC - in response to Message 1850094.  

What do you call someone who wants more government?
fundamentalist follower of Abraham

What do you call someone who wants less government?
violent anarchist
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Message 1850100 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 1:30:16 UTC - in response to Message 1850097.  

Libertarians are free thinkers. Again a different political ideology.
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Message 1850101 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 1:35:57 UTC

Socialism is an economic system not a form of government. Guy is convoluting the two. Why doesn't that surprise me?
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Message 1850103 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 1:43:10 UTC - in response to Message 1850062.  
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So, you and ex are going to continue to assert there's no such thing as a republican who is pushing for "progress" towards socialism/marxism/communism.

ok.

Just like there's no such thing as an extremist democrat. They're all centrists....

ok.

Well, there used to be more "progressive" republicans than there are today if that's what you mean? However I would identify you as a conservative, and the foundation of Romney(Obama)care is not just republican, it's conservative. So what say ye?

Edit: If the ACA is marxist to you, I'd love to see your reaction to true single-payer.
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Message 1850162 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 9:52:09 UTC

A list of of 'leaders' who have used the old "hostis publicus" phrase.
Emperor Nero
Joseph Stalin
Chairman Mao
Donald Trump
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Message 1850181 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 12:30:51 UTC

One thing Trump has done is to flush the hypocrites out of their closets.

"A tad puzzled as to why they didn't debate the visit of the Saudi King or the Chinese President.
I object to both of those getting the red carpet treatment and welcomed with open arms.
Were the LBGT community asleep when the Saudi's were here? Homosexuality is punishable by death over there.
Come to think of it the BBC were very quiet too.
And where shall we even start on the Chinese? "

MP's debate Trump's visit
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Message 1850184 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 12:51:20 UTC - in response to Message 1850159.  
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Libertarians are free thinkers. Again a different political ideology.

Of course it is.

Just leaving out of your question the #3 gather of votes. Who would, of course, not be considered a Socialist.

Only 2% of The USA voting population is Socialist?

On the evidence from some of the postings here, could it be that many of the population don't know that there are more than two political groups with some fence sitting independents in the middle.

And I think your statement* "Only 2% of The USA voting population is Socialist" is probably wrong. With a basically two party system. Those on the left will normally vote for the party that is seen as the "Left Party", and vice versa.

Which leads me on to the question. Do you think that the "Tea Party" are Republicans?

*A question mark after such a statement does not make it a question.

edit] Could someone inform 45. The US needs immigrants.
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Message 1850187 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 13:15:00 UTC

*A question mark after such a statement does not make it a question.


Why not. It did for me, I understood straight away that it was a question not a statement.

Perhaps formed in a way to make it look like a statement, but in the end still a question.

Different people express themselves in different ways, and definitely on these forums with many different nationalities and personalities involved comprehension can often be a problem.
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