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Message 1833291 - Posted: 30 Nov 2016, 5:47:16 UTC

On Tuesday Nov. 29, 2016 the science channel aired a program dedicated to providing us with what is known and speculated about the discovery of a new large planet in our solar system dubbed planet 9. Although the astronomers interviewed are all positive that the planet exists no one has actually located the object. Most of the program was filled with speculation about the composition and history of the planet. It is estimated that it is about 10 earth masses and can either be rocky, a small gas planet or icey like Pluto. Who knows?
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Message 1833355 - Posted: 30 Nov 2016, 16:47:37 UTC

At ten earth masses it is most certainly not "Pluto-like". That size would put it into the Neptune category at least.
The problem of detecting Planet Nine is that it is a long way out, is relatively cold, dark. The best chance of finding it I think will be when it occludes a number of stars. Of course the more observations of disturbances in the orbits of other distant Solar-orbiting bodies will give us a better idea where to look - just now we have to look at its entire probable orbital envelope and hope for the best.
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Message 1833395 - Posted: 30 Nov 2016, 21:17:57 UTC - in response to Message 1833291.  

On Tuesday Nov. 29, 2016 the science channel aired a program dedicated to providing us with what is known and speculated about the discovery of a new large planet in our solar system dubbed planet 9. Although the astronomers interviewed are all positive that the planet exists no one has actually located the object. Most of the program was filled with speculation about the composition and history of the planet. It is estimated that it is about 10 earth masses and can either be rocky, a small gas planet or icey like Pluto. Who knows?


If it's there, we'll never find it if we stay away from the coasts.
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Message 1833427 - Posted: 1 Dec 2016, 4:09:55 UTC - in response to Message 1833395.  

On Tuesday Nov. 29, 2016 the science channel aired a program dedicated to providing us with what is known and speculated about the discovery of a new large planet in our solar system dubbed planet 9. Although the astronomers interviewed are all positive that the planet exists no one has actually located the object. Most of the program was filled with speculation about the composition and history of the planet. It is estimated that it is about 10 earth masses and can either be rocky, a small gas planet or icey like Pluto. Who knows?


If it's there, we'll never find it if we stay away from the coasts.

I don't understand your reply.
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Message 1833482 - Posted: 1 Dec 2016, 16:02:57 UTC - in response to Message 1833427.  

If it's there, we'll never find it if we stay away from the coasts.

I don't understand your reply.

It's a Carl Sagan's 'Cosmos' reference. "The surface of the Earth is the shore of the cosmic ocean. Recently, we've waded a little way out, and the water seems inviting."

So in other words, we have to get away from the coast of the cosmic ocean and make our way out away from the shore.
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Message 1833512 - Posted: 1 Dec 2016, 18:36:36 UTC - in response to Message 1833427.  

On Tuesday Nov. 29, 2016 the science channel aired a program dedicated to providing us with what is known and speculated about the discovery of a new large planet in our solar system dubbed planet 9. Although the astronomers interviewed are all positive that the planet exists no one has actually located the object. Most of the program was filled with speculation about the composition and history of the planet. It is estimated that it is about 10 earth masses and can either be rocky, a small gas planet or icey like Pluto. Who knows?


If it's there, we'll never find it if we stay away from the coasts.

I don't understand your reply.


OK, stay in the heartland and don't find it. :)
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Message 1833550 - Posted: 1 Dec 2016, 22:22:26 UTC - in response to Message 1833482.  

If it's there, we'll never find it if we stay away from the coasts.

I don't understand your reply.

It's a Carl Sagan's 'Cosmos' reference. "The surface of the Earth is the shore of the cosmic ocean. Recently, we've waded a little way out, and the water seems inviting."

So in other words, we have to get away from the coast of the cosmic ocean and make our way out away from the shore.

Thanks, I get it now.
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Message 1838269 - Posted: 28 Dec 2016, 15:15:35 UTC
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Everybody is jumping on the bandwagon wanting a slice of the action!

Soon.......

9, 10, 11 .....

I will beliveve it when it happens. Oh and btw X=9
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Message 1841671 - Posted: 12 Jan 2017, 19:33:45 UTC - in response to Message 1838269.  

Last year, scientists spotted signs which offered a hint that there is a huge, unseen world lurking at the edge of our solar system – ‘Planet Nine’.

The giant, hidden planet is thought to be 10 times more massive than Earth – and on an orbit which takes 10,000 or 20,000 years to go round the sun.

But the story of Planet 9 might be even odder than first believed – as scientists say it may once have been a ‘rogue’, free-roaming planet which was captured by our solar system.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/mysterious-planet-9-orbiting-our-sun-could-be-a-rogue-planet-from-outside-the-solar-system-145135713.html
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Message 1841870 - Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 13:34:53 UTC - in response to Message 1841671.  

Last year, scientists spotted signs which offered a hint that there is a huge, unseen world lurking at the edge of our solar system – ‘Planet Nine’.

The giant, hidden planet is thought to be 10 times more massive than Earth – and on an orbit which takes 10,000 or 20,000 years to go round the sun.

But the story of Planet 9 might be even odder than first believed – as scientists say it may once have been a ‘rogue’, free-roaming planet which was captured by our solar system.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/mysterious-planet-9-orbiting-our-sun-could-be-a-rogue-planet-from-outside-the-solar-system-145135713.html

possibly it is I was watching The Sky at Night 2016 roundup and they were doing an item on it and they drew the orbit they think it has and it was VERY eccentric
moving in quit close to the outer Kuiper Belt then out to the oorte cloud.
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Message 1841947 - Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 18:41:14 UTC

Last year, scientists spotted signs which offered a hint that there is a huge, unseen world lurking at the edge of our solar system – ‘Planet Nine’.

The giant, hidden planet is thought to be 10 times more massive than Earth – and on an orbit which takes 10,000 or 20,000 years to go round the sun.

But the story of Planet 9 might be even odder than first believed – as scientists say it may once have been a ‘rogue’, free-roaming planet which was captured by our solar system.
It's all conjecture, no proof at all. Why are people so wanting it to be true???
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Message 1841985 - Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 20:47:04 UTC - in response to Message 1841947.  

Last year, scientists spotted signs which offered a hint that there is a huge, unseen world lurking at the edge of our solar system – ‘Planet Nine’.

The giant, hidden planet is thought to be 10 times more massive than Earth – and on an orbit which takes 10,000 or 20,000 years to go round the sun.

But the story of Planet 9 might be even odder than first believed – as scientists say it may once have been a ‘rogue’, free-roaming planet which was captured by our solar system.
It's all conjecture, no proof at all. Why are people so wanting it to be true???

+1 Yes the wild speculation that goes on about planet 9 in particular and exoplanets in general amazes me.
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Message 1842074 - Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 4:11:36 UTC - in response to Message 1841947.  

Kinda like looking for intelligent life in the universe using one narrow part of a radio telescope signal.....

You have to look to find either (Planet 9 or ET) and giving your search a range of criteria to search
within is a good place to start....

Or in other words its human nature to speculate on all kinds of things...................

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Message 1856556 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 11:07:56 UTC

I wonder whether scientist could find this planet through maths, like Neptune.
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Message 1856822 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 11:36:57 UTC - in response to Message 1856556.  

I think they have already done that Julie. Planet 9 should exist given the anomalies that other planets show in their orbits. But that is at this stage theoretical. The next stage is where to look, and in what way.

Problem is the pressure put on by pseudo rags like the Huff Post that just want eye grabbing headlines to earn a living and stay in business. You know the sort of thing "research suggests, investigations indicate, it is thought etc etc Usually PhD final submissions leaked to them.

The question however still needs to be asked. What difference would it make to our world on earth if there was a 9th planet ? Would it cure cancers, stop wars, eradicate poverty?

If the answer is none of the above then does it really matter whether it exists or not? Apart from simple human curiosity of course. If it's there I expect it will be found one day, newspapers will make a living, scientists will have their 10 minutes of fame, the rest of us will carry on as normal.
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Message 1856964 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017, 4:10:36 UTC

According to the science channel astronomers have already narrowed down the area to be searched for planet 9. But is still a big patch of space.
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Message 1858328 - Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 22:34:06 UTC - in response to Message 1856964.  

I think it will in all probability be found before 2020.
Quite possibly before it even....
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Message 1859164 - Posted: 2 Apr 2017, 11:20:21 UTC

It's many images to search through.
Help is needed.
Is there a large planet at the fringes of our solar system awaiting discovery, a world astronomers call Planet Nine? We’re looking for this planet and for new brown dwarfs in the backyard of the solar system using data from NASA's Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE) mission. But we need your help! Finding these dim objects requires combing through the images by eye to distinguish moving celestial bodies from ghosts and other artifacts. There are too many images for us to search through by ourselves. So come join the search, and you might find a rogue world that's nearer to the Sun than Proxima Centauri---or even the elusive Planet Nine.

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/marckuchner/backyard-worlds-planet-9
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Message 1859186 - Posted: 2 Apr 2017, 13:40:31 UTC - in response to Message 1856822.  

The question however still needs to be asked. What difference would it make to our world on earth if there was a 9th planet ? Would it cure cancers, stop wars, eradicate poverty?


It's fascinating to know a 9th planet may exist, but that's it. It would have no affect on life on earth.
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Message 1859200 - Posted: 2 Apr 2017, 14:48:18 UTC - in response to Message 1859186.  

It's fascinating to know a 9th planet may exist, but that's it. It would have no affect on life on earth.

If of course it was found and was lifeless, like all the other solar system planets, then yes, it would just mean re-writing textbooks and giving publishers more work. But the tin foil hat brigade say it might be the source of all these so called UFO's!

I think I'll stay with just another lump in space orbiting our star we call Sol or the Sun. But someone somewhere will get their 5 minutes of fame if they find it.
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