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Message 1832999 - Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 12:30:10 UTC

Initial impression is, nice refit. :-)

More distinction between quoted text and responses would make easier reading (on long back-and-forth's). A slightly brighter side bar would probably be enough.

@ text wrapping issue: In my inbox, it cannot be attributed to images (as has been suggested and might be the case elsewhere)

As eyes age, they need more light to function at their best. Twice as much by age fifty compared to young adults. Worth taking into consideration.
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Message 1833015 - Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 14:37:48 UTC

The thread icons are as clear as mud when the threads are locked.
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Message 1833016 - Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 14:44:49 UTC - in response to Message 1833015.  

The thread icons are as clear as mud when the threads are locked.
David fixed that on Saturday morning (probably still Friday night his time):
Fixed, by putting those icons on a light gray background.
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But they reverted again, like much else, yesterday morning.
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Message 1833031 - Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 17:23:01 UTC

Here is a thought of mine. A white background is better because the pupil contracts with light and hence focuses more sharply. How can one argue against greater visual acuity?
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Message 1833033 - Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 17:37:50 UTC - in response to Message 1833016.  

The thread icons are as clear as mud when the threads are locked.
David fixed that on Saturday morning (probably still Friday night his time):
Fixed, by putting those icons on a light gray background.
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But they reverted again, like much else, yesterday morning.

The real fix is to take the transparent color in the icon and change it to the white it should be, as it would have displayed in the original color scheme.
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Message 1833062 - Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 21:21:50 UTC - in response to Message 1832784.  

Is that the 17" Galaxy S7?

;)

Subtract 12 inches and bingo;-)

That's why I was really confused. They said it's better for smaller screens and still it looks awful on smartphones.

And yeah, my screenshot looks funny, but that's the native resolution if the S7 and ofc this forum software doesn't have automatic pic resizing.
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Message 1833074 - Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 22:31:24 UTC - in response to Message 1833067.  

First Titanic deck steward: "Let's position these deck chairs to give the best view of the moonlight reflecting off that big, beautiful iceberg we just passed."
Second Titanic deck steward: "No, no. They really should be facing directly toward the moon, so the passengers have a bit brighter light to read by."
Titanic passenger: "When it's pitch black in the middle of the night, it really doesn't make much difference. I still can't read these damn directions to my lifeboat station. Doesn't one of you have a flashlight?"
First deck steward: "Only this one with the green cellophane over the lens."
Passenger: "Anyway, shouldn't you be making better use of your time than just rearranging deck chairs. Like perhaps doing something about a few of those pesky holes in the side of the boat?"
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Message 1833075 - Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 22:36:12 UTC - in response to Message 1833074.  

LOL. +1
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Message 1833150 - Posted: 29 Nov 2016, 12:54:05 UTC - in response to Message 1833074.  
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First Titanic deck steward: "Let's position these deck chairs to give the best view of the moonlight reflecting off that big, beautiful iceberg we just passed."
Second Titanic deck steward: "No, no. They really should be facing directly toward the moon, so the passengers have a bit brighter light to read by."
Titanic passenger: "When it's pitch black in the middle of the night, it really doesn't make much difference. I still can't read these damn directions to my lifeboat station. Doesn't one of you have a flashlight?"
First deck steward: "Only this one with the green cellophane over the lens."
Passenger: "Anyway, shouldn't you be making better use of your time than just rearranging deck chairs. Like perhaps doing something about a few of those pesky holes in the side of the boat?"


So true. But in my career it has just proven that ANY change will create dissappointed by a group of people. You just cannot please everybody at the same time. (Different selectable themes can be a solution, but then again the above story kicks in. How much time, effort and money should they invest in different themes rather than sience?)

One more quote: "There's nothing that people hate more than change and the way things are right now."
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Message 1833162 - Posted: 29 Nov 2016, 15:26:30 UTC

So true. But in my career it has just proven that ANY change will create dissappointed by a group of people. You just cannot please everybody at the same time.


I don't recall seeing any complaints about the prior web design, at least not from those who actually USED it.........

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Message 1833268 - Posted: 30 Nov 2016, 3:14:53 UTC - in response to Message 1833162.  

So true. But in my career it has just proven that ANY change will create dissappointed by a group of people. You just cannot please everybody at the same time.


I don't recall seeing any complaints about the prior web design, at least not from those who actually USED it.........


With nothing to compare it to, how would people know to complain.

But if you want a complaint coming from someone who actually USED the SETI Classic forums (similar dark theme): I was disappointed in the new SETI look and preferred the darker SETI Classic website. I never spoke up because I tend not to waste too much of my time complaining about such things.
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Message 1833323 - Posted: 30 Nov 2016, 11:56:58 UTC

Did the font of message change recently?
readability became worse again.

Font of "buttons" good to read, but main message in hard to read font.
Pity that from useful instrument for SETI project these boards become eye-damagers.
I'm at the point to abandon everyday looking.
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Message 1833324 - Posted: 30 Nov 2016, 12:01:31 UTC - in response to Message 1833323.  

Ah... Seems Russian translation remained in good font (and "buttons" are translated.

Here: Доска сообщений : News : Web site upgrade Russian text looks fine while English in weird font.

So, just need to figure out what font used for Russian text and how to reverse English one into same font.

Still don't understand what the hell I need to spend time for this...
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Message 1833325 - Posted: 30 Nov 2016, 12:06:56 UTC

One, fairly minor, issue - the vertical bar alongside quoted text is all but invisible, being almost the same shade of grey as the text background.


Picking up on Raistmer's comments about fonts used - has the default font changed again? - It is looking a lot clearer than it did a day or so back.
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Message 1833327 - Posted: 30 Nov 2016, 12:15:39 UTC - in response to Message 1833325.  

And in particular much clearer that the first-change font still in use on the BOINC development message boards, where the lower-case 'c' (C, in case it changes again here) is almost indistinguishable from 'o'.
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Message 1833328 - Posted: 30 Nov 2016, 12:21:21 UTC - in response to Message 1833162.  

I don't recall seeing any complaints about the prior web design, at least not from those who actually USED it.........


Excactly. Matches what I said. Any CHANGE()! created complaints, not any design never being changed. I'm pretty sure if we dig back to the time where seticlassis was changed to boinc we will find a ton of complaints about the web design. I can already recall a ton of complaints about BOINC itself in comparison to the SETI only client.
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Message 1833329 - Posted: 30 Nov 2016, 12:26:29 UTC - in response to Message 1833327.  

And in particular much clearer that the first-change font still in use on the BOINC development message boards, where the lower-case 'c' (C, in case it changes again here) is almost indistinguishable from 'o'.


All current English text in bad font for me currently.
А русский - вполне нормальный.
Похоже, все дело в том, что для английского использован жирный шрифт.
Очень странно, что в одном и том же сообщении буквы английского алфавита выглядят совсем иначе, чем русского.
Switch to English - weird.
Переключаюсь на русскую раскладку - нормально.
Желательно это все же исправить....
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Message 1833332 - Posted: 30 Nov 2016, 12:35:06 UTC - in response to Message 1833329.  

And in particular much clearer that the first-change font still in use on the BOINC development message boards, where the lower-case 'c' (C, in case it changes again here) is almost indistinguishable from 'o'.
All current English text in bad font for me currently.
А русский - вполне нормальный.
Похоже, все дело в том, что для английского использован жирный шрифт.
Очень странно, что в одном и том же сообщении буквы английского алфавита выглядят совсем иначе, чем русского.
Switch to English - weird.
Переключаюсь на русскую раскладку - нормально.
Желательно это все же исправить....
That's why I replied to your message on the public mailing lists by saying that extensive testing of browsers, operating systems (and I should have said languages) needs to be made before a final choice is settled on. And there's a problem there - we need to see screenshots of the problems that readers are experiencing, but the Berkeley campus mailing-list system strips graphic attachments from messages before distribution.

Your English text in the quote rendered clearly here using Windows 7 and Chrome.
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Message 1833333 - Posted: 30 Nov 2016, 12:41:31 UTC - in response to Message 1833332.  
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That how it looks:
http://clip2net.com/s/3EY6YMZ
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Message 1833334 - Posted: 30 Nov 2016, 12:46:24 UTC - in response to Message 1833332.  

And in particular much clearer that the first-change font still in use on the BOINC development message boards, where the lower-case 'c' (C, in case it changes again here) is almost indistinguishable from 'o'.
All current English text in bad font for me currently.
А русский - вполне нормальный.
Похоже, все дело в том, что для английского использован жирный шрифт.
Очень странно, что в одном и том же сообщении буквы английского алфавита выглядят совсем иначе, чем русского.
Switch to English - weird.
Переключаюсь на русскую раскладку - нормально.
Желательно это все же исправить....
That's why I replied to your message on the public mailing lists by saying that extensive testing of browsers, operating systems (and I should have said languages) needs to be made before a final choice is settled on. And there's a problem there - we need to see screenshots of the problems that readers are experiencing, but the Berkeley campus mailing-list system strips graphic attachments from messages before distribution.

Your English text in the quote rendered clearly here using Windows 7 and Chrome.

And Russian?
Cause I use Win7 and Chrome too and English looks very bad.
The same on Vista and Chrome.
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