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Message 1840882 - Posted: 8 Jan 2017, 20:54:36 UTC

What Hacking?! There was no Russian hacking!
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRUMP?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-01-08-15-29-11 wrote:
Trump's incoming chief of staff, Reince Priebus, said Sunday that Trump indeed has accepted that Russia was responsible for the hacking, which targeted the Democratic National Committee and a top aide to former rival Hillary Clinton.

"He's not denying that entities in Russia were behind this particular campaign," Priebus said in a Sunday television interview.

He has to be a liberal to think that!
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Message 1840894 - Posted: 8 Jan 2017, 21:38:05 UTC

@Guy, Yes, I can accept that sometimes intelligence will be flawed. My points on the subject were simply that a) the president should be very careful before he disregards *any* report, and b) the president should not publicly trash-talk federal agencies- regardless of his beliefs.

I would never expect anyone to blindly believe things without first doing some of their own fact-checking...



@Gary. Yep, he's not denying who's responsible for the hacking anymore. Now he's changed his stance to 'who cares, let's move on and forget about it.'


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Message 1840944 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 2:51:29 UTC - in response to Message 1840937.  
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I don't think I cheered (or jeered) anything Clyde. I simply pointed out a couple communist societies that haven't failed, and one republic (that the US' system is closest to) that failed miserably.


It's time to concentrate on how we can сделать америки здорово снова
(Yes I know the grammar is not correct)
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Message 1840946 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 3:02:44 UTC - in response to Message 1840937.  

Ex has finally exposed himself.

Clyde you continue to spout the same old tired litany, you do it as well as a troll bot. Have you exposed yourself?
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Message 1840981 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 7:17:56 UTC

"Media is fake!" -Donald Trump

"<insert 800 more idiotic tweets here>"

Sigh. If he doesn't ruin the country via bubble growing and bursting, he's going to ruin the country by encouraging ignorance.

Or perhaps he will ruin the country in some other way:
"If Trump reneges on the one-China policy after taking office, the Chinese people will demand the government to take revenge. There is no room for bargaining,"


I'm waiting to see what's gonna be "great" in the coming years.
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Message 1841003 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 13:13:38 UTC
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Could someone please tell me when is your president - elect going to start acting like a president insted of having little digs at people that mean
F / A in the scheme of things ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38556030

Would of belived he had better / more important things to do than bitch off about some actress on Twitter .
Life is what you make of it :-)

When i'm good i'm very good , but when i'm bad i'm shi#eloads better ;-) In't I " buttercups " p.m.s.l at authoritie !!;-)
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Message 1841004 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 13:23:26 UTC - in response to Message 1841003.  

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Message 1841012 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 14:30:59 UTC - in response to Message 1841003.  

Would of belived he had better / more important things to do than bitch off about some actress on Twitter .

Then president has no clothes.
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Message 1841019 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 14:58:59 UTC - in response to Message 1841006.  

Let's correct this statement. Or at least make it more accurate:

That *is* important.

[Trump] has had a negative influence not only on the USA, but the entire world. Many [Trump supporters] have a false sense of superiority which needs to be put in its proper place. Just because you've played the part of a [boss to apprentices], does not make you an expert in leadership, governance or politics. As a matter of fact, it clouds your ability to think in the real terms of reality. Many of them live in a bubble.

[Trump] is a well known supporter of [] the centralization of power and control. And part of fixing this country includes knocking the snowflakes off their delicate little pedestals.

I do my part--I don't pay to watch [tv- (The Apprentice)] with stupid actors/actresses in them. They know how to parrot what a writers tells them to say, but as soon as many of them get off script, they show how stupid they are. [Trump] is one of those.

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Message 1841020 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 15:01:28 UTC - in response to Message 1841014.  
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Care to explain the "Incompetent ".
The economy has been turned round, wages are increasing and unemployment is low. And his Favorable rating is 55% (Trumps is 10 points lower).
With these end of term ratings he's going to be in the top 5 ratings of all presidents. End of Term Presidential Approval Ratings - Which President Was the Most Popular at the End of Their Term?
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Message 1841021 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 15:01:36 UTC - in response to Message 1841012.  

Would of belived he had better / more important things to do than bitch off about some actress on Twitter .

Then president has no clothes.


Bingo.
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Message 1841022 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 15:04:53 UTC - in response to Message 1841020.  

Care to explain the "Incompetent ".
The economy has been turned round, wages are increasing and unemployment is low. And his Favorable rating is 55% (Trumps is 10 points lower).
With these end of term ratings he's going to be in the top 5 ratings of all presidents. End of Term Presidential Approval Ratings - Which President Was the Most Popular at the End of Their Term?


None of this matters WK. We now live in post-truth, post-intelligence, post-mainstream-media times. Who cares about facts or obvious problems any more?
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Message 1841023 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 15:09:59 UTC - in response to Message 1841022.  
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Care to explain the "Incompetent ".
The economy has been turned round, wages are increasing and unemployment is low. And his Favorable rating is 55% (Trumps is 10 points lower).
With these end of term ratings he's going to be in the top 5 ratings of all presidents. End of Term Presidential Approval Ratings - Which President Was the Most Popular at the End of Their Term?


None of this matters WK. We now live in post-truth, post-intelligence, post-mainstream-media times. Who cares about facts or obvious problems any more?


Then my source of knowledge says Clinton won the election, all the other "news sources" have obviously got it wrong, again.
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Message 1841028 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 15:32:19 UTC - in response to Message 1841025.  
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I shouldn't even respond to this but I'll repeat: I did not make any statements for or against communism. I pointed out communists governments that have not failed, and I've pointed out systems closer to ours that have failed.

I'm so sorry that pointing out facts has confused you in to thinking I said things I did not say.


(For clarification, I am a center-left liberal that leans socialist on certain topics. Nothing more. The only social program I would add to the US would be universal single-payer healthcare, because I feel that just like Police and Fire services, health care should be guaranteed and paid for through taxes.)


Now Clyde, can we get back to discussing how wonderful Mr. Trump is?


Well Ex... (who made excuses for Stalin, Mao and Castro - Message 1840830)

#1- The Left's, Marxists, and Progressives "false sense of superiority" also needs to be "put in its proper place."
This is why we have checks and balances.

#2 - Thank God their beliefs are being dismissed by the People, the Deplorables, the Masses, the Peasants. Or what ever their "false sense of superiority" needs describe and control.

YEP. a whole 49.something % voted for Trump, and of those not all dismiss what you do. Some of those Trump voters would have rather voted for Bernie

#3 - Now we have to work to stop the historically usual reaction to the necessary dismissal of The Left, Marxists and Progressives..

Again, your belief is still in the minority. The only reason your candidate won is due to number games.

Please stop assuming suddenly the whole country has become as right wing as you. You (republicans) are still in the minority.

Edit: If your new president is as great as you all say he is, maybe you *could* in fact become the majority. look at it that way.
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Message 1841033 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 15:53:38 UTC - in response to Message 1841032.  

...I'm not a Republican.


ok, a curveball knocked out to right field, to use baseball terms.
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Message 1841066 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 18:17:36 UTC - in response to Message 1841032.  

Now Clyde, can we get back to discussing how wonderful Mr. Trump is?

Never was for Trump.

Ha, ha, ha,ha, ha, ha, ha.


Again, your belief is still in the minority. The only reason your candidate won is due to number games.

I voted for Hillary!

Ha, ha, ha,ha, ha, ha, ha!


But you later said you regretted voting for Hillary even though during the run-up to the election you consistently said Trump was going to be bad for the country. Now, I can respect people changing their views and positions, but following all of your posts after the election it seems to me that you have a singular purpose or agenda and that is to antagonize or annoy anyone whom you deem as a leftist/Marxist/etc. After you told me about your very negative experience at the hands of some leftist/Marxist/etc people, it is really seeming like you're taking it out on everyone else around you.

This Anti Capitalist, Atheist, Pro Women's Rights, Pro LGBTQ, etc., person. Is not Pro Trump.

But after listening, viewing, and reading the Anti Trump yelling, screaming, and stomping of feet after the election:

Just believe the Left Wing, Marxist, Socialist, Progressive, et al. Are worse.


Then rather than spending all your time antagonizing the lefties of the forum, why not spend more time talking about how you can better help Women's Rights, the LGBTQ community, etc.? Why do you seem to spend an exorbitant amount of time focusing on what you perceive as the Anti-Trump yelling, screaming, and stomping rather than focusing on what positive you can bring to this world?
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Message 1841073 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 18:49:20 UTC - in response to Message 1841066.  

Why do you seem to spend an exorbitant amount of time focusing on what you perceive as the Anti-Trump yelling, screaming, and stomping rather than focusing on what positive you can bring to this world?

Because with all his experience & knowledge, he cannot provide one so continues to remain a 78rpm record that has got stuck.
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Message 1841083 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 20:31:42 UTC - in response to Message 1840678.  

"Mr Trump vowed to work with Russia "to solve some of the many... pressing problems and issues of the WORLD!""


OK.

"In a series of tweets on Saturday, Mr Trump said that having a good relationship with Russia was "no bad thing" and that "only 'stupid' people, or fools, would think that it is bad!""


OK.

The only ones against the above would Reagan (Evil Empire) and The Left, The Progressives and the Anti Trump. Who apparently have become Reagan supporters.

Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha.ha.

Yes... The Left, The Progressives and the Anti Trump are sinking faster and faster. Fun to watch.


Would you prefer to hear a more nuanced "Better relations with Russia would be good if it weren't for them being led by authoritarian Putin"
Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
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Message 1841101 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 22:36:39 UTC

"Eleven days left. Then America will be Great Again. Or whatever."
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