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Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
If there had been no political party associated with Trump or Clinton, who do you think would have won? Really? I assume you're being tongue in cheek. The political party system seems to cause a lot of strife and negativity. I think if Trump and Clinton expressed their ideas on their own without all of our preconceived notions about what right or left is or should be, we would have had a more representative election. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
If there had been no political party associated with Trump or Clinton, who do you think would have won? Political parties now are very close to being like football teams. No real reason to root for and cheer on any of them. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Political parties now are very close to being like football teams. No real reason to root for and cheer on any of them. More apt than you might think considering how fat the football team owners get. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
If there had been no political party associated with Trump or Clinton, who do you think would have won? Yes a bit of tongue in cheek :) But Trump... Is he a Republican or a Democrat and following a political party system? Well we will know who he is in a couple of months. "It's gonna be great. I'll tell you that. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be great." |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
So many expressions(frustrations?) about politics over many years from many people refer in some way or another to Right/Left, Repub/Dem, we all just seem to go through the motions of defending "our" party and criticizing the other one(s). No matter what the argument, the party seems to come into play somehow, and that polarizes the discussion. My fantasy wish for the new year is that suddenly there are no political parties; just people with differing opinions. Yes... Here is what President George Washington had to say about political parties in his Farewell Address: George Washington wrote: I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally. https://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?doc=15&page=transcript https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
You guys are trying to hide the fact that you either want more government or you want less government. I want correct government. One that does not attempt to implement a theistic morality, so much less of that. I want one that does enforce traffic laws, so more of that. I suspect you claim you want the opposite -- anti abortion but business can dump anything in the river upstream of the town water inlet. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
You guys are trying to hide the fact that you either want more government or you want less government. No, I just call him a corruptible/corrupted authoritarian. A man who abused the power he briefly held, by altering approximately 2000 of his posts, well past the time we unclean masses would be allowed to do. He is hiding the fact that what he wants is big government that agrees with him, not less government. Virtually everything he says shows how he feels he is superior. He is tainted. He is not intellectually interesting, let alone intellectually honest. Couldn't even turn down modship the way I did. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
You guys are trying to hide the fact that you either want more government or you want less government. Don't forget about hiding posts he didn't personally like because they went against his beliefs, thankfully the "powers to be" corrected a lot of them. But he brought himself undone when he started deleting his own own posts didn't he? Though he does reflect the corrupt political system you guys do have over there where the rich and greedy do actually run the country, only now 1 of them is going to be right out in front this time, no puppets this time. Cheers. |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
I just abused the power vested in me like many of our elected officials. What's the big deal? EVERYBODY DOES IT! No they do not. I know many who would be insulted by you crass statement. It just says more about you than words ever can and is why I for one treat all your posts as _ _ |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
I just abused the power vested in me like many of our elected officials. What's the big deal? EVERYBODY DOES IT! But you decided to follow in his footsteps anyway. Happy 2017 |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I just abused the power vested in me like many of our elected officials. What's the big deal? EVERYBODY DOES IT! Actually Clyde, none of your politicians would survive over here because 99% of them would wind in jail, but you elect them over there. You all over there really should take a look at how social democracies work. Cheers. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
How Soon? How soon they forget. |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
Gary, a lot of people just seem very blind to the writing on the walls. I for one hope our system of checks and balances protects everyone. But I fear these guys are hard at work both a) making sure they do as much ugly stuff as they can while getting away with it, and b) paving the way to make it easier for others to do the same uglies in the future without answering for it. #resist |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Bernie, isn't there a rule about double-posts? Some of those "--"'s are in the same thread! Wiggo, care to PM some of those hidden then un-hidden posts? Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
How To Play Money. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuUHlzItfQ Eat your heart out Trump! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjgwjh4H7wg Getting numbed... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_MXLI5hyEc |
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