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Message 1835188 - Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 14:55:08 UTC - in response to Message 1835186.  

Putin said the American people prevented WWIII by voting for Trump. (Implying if that felon had won the election...)

And the next Nobel Peace Prize laureates will be Trump and Putin:)
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Message 1835195 - Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 15:28:04 UTC - in response to Message 1835192.  

Obama was awared the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009 for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples".

Yes. I think many of us thinks, why did he get the prize?
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Message 1835204 - Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 15:53:17 UTC - in response to Message 1835195.  

Obama was awared the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009 for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples".

Yes. I think many of us thinks, why did he get the prize?

See that block "Western Countries" It is called white European ancestry males. Same as the Nobel committee.

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Message 1835207 - Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 16:13:10 UTC - in response to Message 1835204.  
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Obama was awared the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009 for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples".

Yes. I think many of us thinks, why did he get the prize?

See that block "Western Countries" It is called white European ancestry males. Same as the Nobel committee.
Any questions?

Well. I'm lost in your answer.
To earn the Nobel Peace Prize you need to accomplish peace.
Not being like an ambassador.
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Message 1835210 - Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 16:22:23 UTC - in response to Message 1835173.  
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The false 'Yelling Fire' analogy, has always been used by those who believe they have the Right and Responsibility to Censor News and Speech they disagree with.


Can you explain to me why the analogy is false? Further, regardless if you disagree with the analogy, do you have an answer to the question I asked?


You never answered this question, CLYDE.

After the continuous Left Wing assault against our freedoms by The Left after the recent election. Thank God that Hillary and her Left Wing Orwellian Speech Police lost.


Only to be replaced by the Orwellian Speech Police of the Right.

Yes.

OzzFan...

At last, you appear to be agreeing with me about The Left being as dangerous as the Right.

Now let's work together to expose both the The Left's and the Right's attack against our freedoms in these Forums.

OK?


No, I still think the right is far more dangerous than the left. Since President Elect Donald Trump won the election, and after promising to 'drain the swamp', he's done nothing but appoint conservative career politicians, and every single one is looking to get rid of protections I care about such as women's right to an abortion, net neutrality, climate change, immigration protections, among others.

While the left gets a bit ridiculous with the PC police, the right's Patriotically Correct (as linked above) is far, far worse.
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Message 1835211 - Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 16:23:57 UTC - in response to Message 1835169.  

You never answered my question in my post 1834896.

Looked too much like a rhetorical question.


Would I be pushing for an answer to a rhetorical question (for a third time now)?
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Message 1835225 - Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 17:17:37 UTC

Fish oil is good for the hair Donald

Be careful she don't slip in some Snake oil.
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Message 1835248 - Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 18:16:15 UTC - in response to Message 1835241.  

You never answered my question in my post 1834896.

Looked too much like a rhetorical question.


Would I be pushing for an answer to a rhetorical question (for a third time now)?


Just as much right as these folks saying these things (6 years ago):


How many of those actually resulted in someone walking in with a gun and shooting at an innocent person?
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Message 1835250 - Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 18:29:12 UTC - in response to Message 1835242.  

OzzFan...

Let's not confuse the issue.

The Left doesn't equate with Liberal. The Right doesn't equate with Conservative.


By definition the left is liberal and the right is conservative (at least here in the States). The only differentiating factor is if they are libertarian or authoritarian. Authoritarians are dangerous because they are the ones that are:

The Hateful Left, IE: Marxists, Progressives, etc.. Must be equated with the Hateful Right, IE: Nazi, KKK, etc.


Though I do not agree with you putting progressives in there. I am progressive and I do not believe myself to be hateful or dangerous.
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Message 1835269 - Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 19:57:00 UTC - in response to Message 1835267.  

Pizzagate

Guy you have reached an apex previously never seen in these boards.
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Message 1835273 - Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 20:05:40 UTC - in response to Message 1835267.  
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When it comes to the long list of felonies committed by the clintons (and the long list of sexual adventures of Bill, which hillary always referred to as "bimbo eruptions"), it's not a difficult thing to believe that he was also occasionally into really young women.


Yes, it is a difficult thing to believe. Having extra-marital affairs with adult women does not mean logically you're into having sex with underage children. It's called jumping to conclusions and it's called innocent until proven guilty. Are you actually making a case that the fake news about running a child porn ring had a kernel of truth to it? And are you approving of the how the shooter dealt with it?

Pizzagate is no more crazy than the national advertising of republicans pushing elderly folks in wheel chairs off a cliff.


I would hope you think stories about republicans pushing elderly in wheel chairs off cliffs would be crazy too. That you are equating the two and saying neither is crazy seems to show just how far out there you are.

You don't consider yourself dangerous because you can't imagine others not thinking like you. And forcing others to do things the way you see it *is* dangerous.


There's so much wrong with these statements I'm not even sure where to begin. Firstly, I have no problems with people who don't think like me, let alone "imagining" them doing so. I think this might be projection on your part. Secondly, I do not advocate forcing anyone to do anything according to the way I see it. I have my opinion on how things should be done, as does everyone else. I prefer protecting civil liberties where people are allowed to make choices for themselves as it pertains to themselves.

Any free speech which disagrees with what you think, you believe needs to be made illegal.


Again, this really seems to be projection because it doesn't even come close to describing how I think or feel.

For example, it's ok to say republicans are nazis, but it's not ok for the president elect to have a twitter account.

You call republicans nazis but want to censor republican speech like the nazis did in their third reich.


Can you point out where I've said republicans are Nazis? Can you point out where I said it's not OK for the President Elect to have a Twitter account? Can you point out where I said I want to censor republican speech?

Keep supporting liberalism/progressivism/socialism/Marxism/communism/centralizing all power and control... and eventually, you're going to get a king who wanders the streets, sentencing people to death, willy-nilly.


Yes, because that's a logical conclusion to come to. About as logical and as on-point as the rest of your post.
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Message 1835276 - Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 20:27:27 UTC - in response to Message 1835250.  

OzzFan...

Let's not confuse the issue.

The Left doesn't equate with Liberal. The Right doesn't equate with Conservative.


By definition the left is liberal and the right is conservative (at least here in the States). The only differentiating factor is if they are libertarian or authoritarian. Authoritarians are dangerous because they are the ones that are:

The Hateful Left, IE: Marxists, Progressives, etc.. Must be equated with the Hateful Right, IE: Nazi, KKK, etc.


Though I do not agree with you putting progressives in there. I am progressive and I do not believe myself to be hateful or dangerous.



Hmm... Uhhh... No.

OzzFan,

By Definition,


lib·er·al
ˈlib(ə)rəl/
adjective
adjective: liberal

1.
open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values.




con·serv·a·tive
kənˈsərvədiv/
adjective
adjective: conservative

1.
holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion.

noun
noun: conservative; plural noun: conservatives

1.
a person who is averse to change and holds to traditional values and attitudes, typically in relation to politics.


Essentially, Conservative = 'Status Quo is best', and Liberal ='let us try something else'.

The USA has had an Authoritarian Government that is left of center with numerous elements of Socialism for so long (Decades) that it has become traditional.

Therefore, both the Authoritarian Left and Authoritarian Right are now Conservative and the Libertarian elements have remained (as they have been since the Founding Fathers) Liberal.

One of the Authoritarian's favorite things to do is to blind the People with ignorance by changing the meaning of language. You want an excellent literary treatment of this concept, I suggest you read Orwell's '1984'. Newspeak doubleplus ungood.

A prime example of this in USA politics is one that you objected to in the last line of your post:

The Hateful Left, IE: Marxists, Progressives, etc.. Must be equated with the Hateful Right, IE: Nazi, KKK, etc.


Though I do not agree with you putting progressives in there. I am progressive and I do not believe myself to be hateful or dangerous.


Clyde attacked (among others) "Progressives". You disagreed, calling yourself 'progressive'. Different things.

'Progressive' != 'progressive'.


pro·gres·sive
prəˈɡresiv/

noun
noun: progressive; plural noun: progressives; noun: progressive proof; plural noun: progressive proofs

1.
a person advocating or implementing social reform or new, liberal ideas.
synonyms: innovator, reformer, reformist, liberal, libertarian


There is nothing inherently wrong with being a progressive.

BUT...

The Progressive movement in the USA began around 1890 and emphasized use of Government power to attain the progressive ideas. In other words, the Progressives used Authoritarian methods to work toward attaining their goals. In the first half of the 20th century, Progressives had completely taken over both of the major political parties in the USA. The Progressive's use of Authoritarian methods is why they are BAD EVIL Fookers.

They definitely fit in with Marxists, NAZIs, and the KKK Sheetheads. Hateful.
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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1835287 - Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 21:18:01 UTC - in response to Message 1835267.  

townhall.com = Salem Media Group
Salem Media Group is America’s leading radio broadcaster, Internet content provider, and magazine and book publisher targeting audiences interested in Christian and family-themed content and conservative values.

Love that they quoted material from nightclub comedy routines as if it was a policy speech on a political convention floor.
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Message 1835308 - Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 0:22:13 UTC - in response to Message 1835188.  

Putin said the American people prevented WWIII by voting for Trump. (Implying if that felon had won the election...)


Implying Putin would've attacked?
Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
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