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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Yeah. We need more Dragon Queens in this world.
The Game of Thrones was not only a way of the world at one time, it should be today.
We have the mother of all bombs.
We NEED the mother of all dragons on the throne.
Hail the Khalisee.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

What do you suggest we do with the "Americans", as studies show "Americans" commit twice as many more crimes, including assaults, rapes and murders than immigrants.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/us/trump-illegal-immigrants-crime.html?_r=0
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-immigrants-and-crime-how-big-a-problem-is-crime-committed-by-immigrants/

Most illegal immigrants know if they want any chance of staying they must not become known for criminal acts, or they will be on the way back asap.

The problem isn't really illegal immigrants, it's why they cannot more easily become legal immigrants. Because as the food and construction industries know, "Americans" will not do these jobs.
https://www.sott.net/article/343257-North-Carolina-needed-6500-farm-workers-Only-7-Americans-stuck-it-out-to-the-end-of-the-season

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/mar/17/undocumented-immigrants-charlotte-north-carolina-construction

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M.A.S.H. only had 1 Major Frank Burns.

We have a few more than that here. :-(

Cheers.

List of those who won't be in attendance at the Super Bowl Champions visit to the White House:

Martellus Bennett, tight end, 29

LeGarrette Blount, running back, 30

Alan Branch, defensive tackle, 32

Dont'a Hightower, linebacker, 26

Chris Long, defense end, 31

Devin McCourty, defensive back, 29

Hiliary Clinton, prevaricator, 69

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Only an immoral (or worse) person would dismiss more murder/rape victims. Remember the victims!

What do we do to stop allowing terrorists, murderers and rapists to enter any country? Remember the future victims!

Remember the victims!

Black Lives Matter! Deport the police!

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Yes lets remember the victims, the >98% of murder victims by US citizens. In a country where the murder rate is 2.5 times that of Canada and >4 times that of the UK.

If the US had sensible immigration rates, commensurate with jobs required to be filled, then legal border checks would be carried out on those applying to work in the US.
And if they failed to meet the legal standards their visas could be revoked and would also not be allowed to become citizens.
see my previous on NC construction and food industry.

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nor make political points.

Errrr. It was tRump that brought up the subject, wasn't it. Going on about the need to build a wall to keep all the rapists and murders out of the USA.
Just think if US citizens were as well behaved as the immigrants, 6,000 people per year would still be alive.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

That would not be because there is not much help . You do need to have a job in your country . I also don't believe it's 100% unless your distorting the numbers by saying that a illegal that works is breaking the law . So what happens to all them employers that knowingly employ said illegals aren't they breaking the law too .Maybe if they where shut down or got really huge fines they would stop employing them and that may just help in stopping people from coming if there is no chance they will ever be employed . At the moment that is not true they know they can work even if it's illegal as your employers aren't doing there bit to stop it and in fact are probably encouraging it by using dodgy casual hire company's and even setting some of them up to do exactly that employ the illegals at a fraction of the cost of employing a American .

As our treasurer said it's up to employers to make the case for tax relief The government is facing a wipe out if they go ahead with there tax cuts to business. ergo : he was meaning they have to start paying employees more money or there will not be support for tax cuts . They asked the fair work commission to cut penalty rates in some sectors and it was granted witch has really not gone down well with the population even many of the right wing are peed off it was allowed and the government did not put a counter submission to stop it but actually agreed . OPS Liberal greed is backfiring on them now . . Wages increases here are at a all time low with only 1% rise in pay packets in the last 4-6 years and inflation has been at 2-3% annually

So why don't you right wing types understand your also part of the illegal problem and breaking the law when you employ them .And stop telling your self B/S please

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Glen i think liverfailure was posting what he thought was humor.
By definition an illegal immigrant has broken the law.
It's the far right's way of confusing their slower followers.

Glen i think liverfailure was posting what he thought was humor.
By definition an illegal immigrant has broken the law.
It's the far right's way of confusing their slower followers.

But not far enough to show that tRump is also a 100% criminal because he been convicted of employing illegals.

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I also don't believe it's 100% unless your distorting the numbers by saying that a illegal that works is breaking the law

Well, breaking the law makes one a criminal, correct?

It is against US law for a non-citizen to be in the country without permission, correct?

Therefore, ALL 'undocumented immigrants'/'illegal immigrants'/'illegal aliens'/'whatever you wanna call them', being in the country without permission, ARE breaking the law therefore ARE criminals. ALL of 'em.

If you are not a US Citizen, and you do not have a visa/green-card (documents for LEGAL immigration), if you are in the USA, you are a criminal.

Is this morally or ethically correct? Maybe... Maybe not...

Don't like it? Get the law changed (myself, I am in favor of both relaxing the quotas on legal immigration so that more can immigrate legally AND instituting a guest worker program so that those that merely want to come here to work for a while then return home can do so)...

But, until we can get those changes to the immigration system passed by Congress and signed by the President, we really really do NEED to follow the laws on the books.

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https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

It is against US law for a non-citizen to be in the country without permission, correct?

Got a US Code section cite for that?

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It is against US law for a non-citizen to be in the country without permission, correct?

Got a US Code section cite for that?

How does this one work for you?

8 U.S.C. § 1325 - U.S. Code - Unannotated Title 8. Aliens and Nationality § 1325. Improper entry by alien

See more at: http://codes.findlaw.com/us/title-8-aliens-and-nationality/8-usc-sect-1325.html

Improper time or place;  avoidance of examination or inspection;  misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under Title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under Title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.  

Improper time or place;  civil penalties
Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of--  at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry);  or  twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection. Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.  

Marriage fraud
Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than $250,000, or both.  

Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud
Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance with Title 18, or both -

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But that is for those who try to enter illegally in the first place.
Many people can enter under the Visa Waiver Program for 90 days.
But a problem occurs because the US does not record when people leave, or even have they left.

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a person who believes, because it is the Lesser of Two Evils. That all non-rapist/murderer's/drug dealers, robbers, etc., Illegal Immigrants. Should be given Amnesty after fines are imposed.

A logical and intelligent position, and I agree as do most citizens. But it must be a one time offer, not a continuing policy which would encourage future illegal entries. It would also need to be accompanied with reform of the system dumping quotas altogether in favor of a merit system for all who apply(the Australia/Canada system).

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS
KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech.

Free Yappin' all dA Time

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!