Have you no integrity or shame?

'bout the same amount as you do Mr Holier than Thou...............

I don't make things up to prove a point!

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Everybody should pay something if they are ENJOYING the clear air, water, roads, bridges and police/fire protection.

When Richie Riches Likeee BIG BIG BIG Money Don dA Prez pay A WHOPPING 38 MILLION in Taxes, there is NO NEED fO CRYBABY COMMIE KKKLOWNS to Pay A CENT. Heck, they Should GET MO FREE STUFF than they Do/Want.

So Many RICHIE RICHES being SO NICE to dA NASTY SCREECHIN' KKKryBabies of dA Lefty Vrold, Who DESTROY and TAKE.

So Wats dA KKKryBABY KKKOMMIE KKKLOWNS at UCB sayin and Doin' Now?

Lefty FASCIST Yappin'

P.S. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT fO BIG BIG BIG GOLDEN HAIRED LONG BLACK COAT Wearin' Don

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

Have you no integrity or shame?

'bout the same amount as you do Mr Holier than Thou...............

I don't make things up to prove a point!

Do you think he'll be offended if we stop believing him?

Explain to me how someone can have income and not be able to pay.

?? pay what?? food on the table?

Apparently, you're unaware of the almost half who file a tax returns and pay absolutely nothing in income tax.

That isn't the only tax; a fact you seem utterly unaware of.

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Push it back - you'll like this. (Others here might too)

That's weird. He kicked the table over. I.Y.I. :-)
For those who don't understand my comment, watch the video :-)

Enjoyable 54 minutes.

Going to use I.Y.I Superb!

Edit: I believe that was one of 2 talks.

Part 2

Have you no integrity or shame?

'bout the same amount as you do Mr Holier than Thou...............

I don't make things up to prove a point!

Do you think he'll be offended if we stop believing him?

Probably not, Guy is probably the only person on this board who believes him.

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Keep changing the subject. Saul Alinsky rules for radicals, #8.

You may want to reconsider your oft-stated disdain for this book... among other things it was central to organizing the Tea Party's strategy and protests, and William F. Buckley was a great admirer of Saul Alinsky. Note that it may be called "Rules for Radicals" but it doesn't qualify which radicals; it simply attempts to show how to overcome a moneyed, powerful opposition (these days they'd be called "the elite") while having neither.

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Don't know about others, but didn't think much of the blogs, but did enjoy the video, so went to that source.

The Heritage Foundation

btw, watching video 3 of 8.

& Conservatives do?

& Conservatives do?

Sirius B...

Are you finally agreeing with the foundation of my arguments regarding Power?

WOW!!!!!

If yours predates mine on the Internet (& possibly real life), then yes. (Mine started Internet wise in 2007 but in real life 1960)

and those who actually produce and made this country great

Those area's of the country are for the most part solidly area's Clinton won. FACT.

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Now, you can argue whether she's stupid for paying that much or not, or whether she deserves to pay that much in taxes due to her own income levels, but the bigger picture is that this seems to be a "normal" occurrence here in the US. The taxes burden those who can't afford it more than it burdens those who can.

You are trying to take both sides.........

No, I'm explaining to you what the viewpoint of the left is. If you're going to level criticism of the other side's viewpoint, at least state it correctly first instead of creating a strawman argument then knocking down the strawman. It's an injustice to your own viewpoint if you can't counter the other side's accurately.

And by the way Mr Buffet famously made that statement that he doesn't pay enough taxes so the question becomes: Why doesn't he VOLUNTARILY pay more?

Because that wouldn't fix the systemic problem now, would it?

among other things it [saul alinksky rules for radicals] was central to organizing the Tea Party's strategy

You're hallucinations are just helping me come to the conclusion that we are in for another violent civil war. The only way I see one side (who's living is some sort of fantasy world and blocking out reality because it doesn't fit their snowflake world) and those who actually produce and made this country great (and will make this country great again) coming to some sort of understanding is through violence.

I still want to give a CONVENTION OF STATES a shot. And if that's not enough, there's nothing left but extreme violence.

So now we can all see where you stand. If you can't have it your way, you'll force it upon others through advocation of violence rather than in the tradition of compromise like our Forefathers setup for our great republic. Your position of violence is the enemy of democracy.

If you're going to level criticism of the other side's viewpoint, at least state it correctly first instead of creating a strawman argument then knocking down the strawman.

That isn't permitted by saul alinksky rules for radicals. That work seems to infest his posting, I guess it rubbed off on him, unless he is a radical?

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If you're going to level criticism of the other side's viewpoint, at least state it correctly first instead of creating a strawman argument then knocking down the strawman.

That isn't permitted by saul alinksky rules for radicals. That work seems to infest his posting, I guess it rubbed off on him, unless he is a radical?

I don't get that impression from JaundicedEye's postings. Guy's maybe, but not JE's. And I think he just likes to regurgitate right-wing talking points rather unthoughtfully and I'm hoping to provoke him into seeing things differently, even if he doesn't agree with the viewpoints himself. I think out of all of our conservative friends, JE and MK are the only two that can be reasoned with until they prove otherwise. At which point I think I will lose all hope for politics in the US, and my hope is getting dimmer by the day as it is.

among other things it [saul alinksky rules for radicals] was central to organizing the Tea Party's strategy

You're hallucinations are just helping me come to the conclusion that we are in for another violent civil war. The only way I see one side (who's living is some sort of fantasy world and blocking out reality because it doesn't fit their snowflake world) and those who actually produce and made this country great (and will make this country great again) coming to some sort of understanding is through violence.

I still want to give a CONVENTION OF STATES a shot. And if that's not enough, there's nothing left but extreme violence.

Not sure where the "hallucinations" bit comes in...

Anyways, I'll elaborate: when Dick Armey was House Majority Leader he was also involved with FreedomWorks, a "right wing" grassroots advocacy group from which sprang the Tea Party. He gave a copy of Rules for Radicals to all the Tea Party leaders, and it's still required reading at FreedomWorks. So it turns out that this book was an important organizing tool for the movement that ended up being a large contributor to getting Donald Trump elected.

Also there's about as much need for violent civil war in the U.S. right now as there is in a town hall meeting to appoint the city dogcatcher. So much of this so-called divisiveness I see is much ado about very little, digitally magnified molehill mountains amplified by the internet, a double-edged sword if ever there was one. Unfortunately there are many vested interests who would like to see such divisiveness continue... it sells clicks. May the cooler heads prevail...

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