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Message 1855641 - Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 18:16:48 UTC

Trump supporters talk about virtue and intelligence in the same way Trump talks about his daughters.
Something they "Want" but will never have.

definition Twit ... "a silly annoying person : fool" ..."an act of twitting : taunt".
Trump is a "Twitterer", or "Twit" for short.take your pick..
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Message 1855645 - Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 18:59:23 UTC - in response to Message 1854880.  


He asked for a peripheral canal and it didn't happen. But his daddy's dam failed because without the canal it has to hold extra water for the summer.

I'm also quite sure that the original design wasn't factoring in climate change.
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Message 1855671 - Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 23:11:52 UTC - in response to Message 1855623.  
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"Donald Trump only paid 25% in taxes in 2005!"

Barrack Obama paid 18.7% in 2015.

Bernie Sanders paid 13.5% in 2014.

Comcast(parent of MSNBC) averages a tax rate of 24%

That awkward moment when you realize you've just proven the other sides' position.


The problem is that you're comparing Trump to other millionaires and trying to assert that because he paid a larger percentage than them, somehow the egg is on the face of the liberals. Rather, the point the liberals are making is that the average person pays as much as 35% of their income to taxes, but the rich, thanks to loopholes and breaks designed just for people at certain income levels, comes out to far less.

Why is it that the poor and middle class pay a higher percentage of taxes than the rich? Talk about an awkward moment when you've just proven the other sides' position.

Oh, and just in case I get put into the liberal category because I pointed out the fallacy in your post, I'm not a tax-and-spend liberal and I think high taxes on everyone is too burdensome. It is this poster's opinion that if we can lower taxes and only spend on important things, we can put dollars back in the pockets of hard-working people to do with as they wish. I even think smart people, like some rich people are, re-invest their money to giving jobs to the poor, which creates economic growth and provides for all.
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Message 1855679 - Posted: 15 Mar 2017, 23:41:19 UTC - in response to Message 1855671.  

Too many prefer investing in off-shore accounts.
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Message 1855681 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 0:11:40 UTC

Rather, the point the liberals are making is that the average person pays as much as 35% of their income to taxes, but the rich, thanks to loopholes and breaks designed just for people at certain income levels, comes out to far less.
Anyone.....ANYONE earning enough income in the US to be in the 35% bracket and actually paying an effective 35% with all the deductions, tax credits, etc. available to them legally under the current tax laws and not smart enough to hire a good tax accountant SHOULD pay 35%........... as a stupidity penalty.



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Message 1855683 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 0:40:58 UTC - in response to Message 1855681.  
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Rather, the point the liberals are making is that the average person pays as much as 35% of their income to taxes, but the rich, thanks to loopholes and breaks designed just for people at certain income levels, comes out to far less.
Anyone.....ANYONE earning enough income in the US to be in the 35% bracket and actually paying an effective 35% with all the deductions, tax credits, etc. available to them legally under the current tax laws and not smart enough to hire a good tax accountant SHOULD pay 35%........... as a stupidity penalty.


So I'm stupid now? I don't qualify for most of those exemptions, deductions and credits. It doesn't take much to pay 35% and not qualify for breaks and exemptions. All you need is to be single and have a middle-class job.
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Message 1855685 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 0:48:39 UTC - in response to Message 1855683.  

Rather, the point the liberals are making is that the average person pays as much as 35% of their income to taxes, but the rich, thanks to loopholes and breaks designed just for people at certain income levels, comes out to far less.
Anyone.....ANYONE earning enough income in the US to be in the 35% bracket and actually paying an effective 35% with all the deductions, tax credits, etc. available to them legally under the current tax laws and not smart enough to hire a good tax accountant SHOULD pay 35%........... as a stupidity penalty.


So I'm stupid now? I don't qualify for most of those exemptions, deductions and credits. It doesn't take much to pay 35% and not qualify for breaks and exemptions. All you need is to be single and have a middle-class job.

That's a big fat bingo. Reagan tax plan socked it to the middle class.
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Message 1855691 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 2:13:48 UTC - in response to Message 1855623.  

You just proved why Trump is such a corrupt individual. 86% of the tax bill he paid was due to the "alternative minimum tax" a law that he he has said he is going to get rid of. Without "alternative minimum tax" Trumps tax bill would have been about 3% of his income. And he probably only got that income because he cheats sub-contractors out the money he should be paying them.
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Message 1855696 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 3:48:55 UTC

I wonder what he paid for the other years?

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Message 1855697 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 3:51:46 UTC - in response to Message 1855691.  

You just proved why Trump is such a corrupt individual. 86% of the tax bill he paid was due to the "alternative minimum tax" a law that he he has said he is going to get rid of. Without "alternative minimum tax" Trumps tax bill would have been about 3% of his income. And he probably only got that income because he cheats sub-contractors out the money he should be paying them.
He just ran so he could lower his personal tax bill and get to know foreign government leaders so he can build golf courses and towers.
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Message 1855699 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 4:07:57 UTC - in response to Message 1855681.  

Rather, the point the liberals are making is that the average person pays as much as 35% of their income to taxes, but the rich, thanks to loopholes and breaks designed just for people at certain income levels, comes out to far less.
Anyone.....ANYONE earning enough income in the US to be in the 35% bracket and actually paying an effective 35% with all the deductions, tax credits, etc. available to them legally under the current tax laws and not smart enough to hire a good tax accountant SHOULD pay 35%........... as a stupidity penalty.



Nice image. Remind me, what does Mark 12:17 say?

As for paying 35% in taxes, Ozz did not say anything about the 35% tax bracket, there are other income taxes than federal income tax (social security, medicare, state, local, etc) ...
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1855700 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 4:10:34 UTC - in response to Message 1855697.  
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You just proved why Trump is such a corrupt individual. 86% of the tax bill he paid was due to the "alternative minimum tax" a law that he he has said he is going to get rid of. Without "alternative minimum tax" Trumps tax bill would have been about 3% of his income. And he probably only got that income because he cheats sub-contractors out the money he should be paying them.
He just ran so he could lower his personal tax bill and get to know foreign government leaders so he can build golf courses and towers.

Not to mention getting loans from said foreign countries because virtually all US monetary institutions think he is untrustworthy. From his favourite cable news channel
http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2016/10/20/trumps-business-credit-score-is-19-out-possible-100.html
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Message 1855701 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 4:22:02 UTC - in response to Message 1855697.  

He just ran so he could lower his personal tax bill and get to know foreign government leaders so he can build golf courses and towers.

Bingo.
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Message 1855702 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 4:24:31 UTC - in response to Message 1855700.  
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You just proved why Trump is such a corrupt individual. 86% of the tax bill he paid was due to the "alternative minimum tax" a law that he he has said he is going to get rid of. Without "alternative minimum tax" Trumps tax bill would have been about 3% of his income. And he probably only got that income because he cheats sub-contractors out the money he should be paying them.
He just ran so he could lower his personal tax bill and get to know foreign government leaders so he can build golf courses and towers.

Not to mention getting loans from said foreign countries because virtually all US monetary institutions think he is untrustworthy. From his favourite cable news channel
http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2016/10/20/trumps-business-credit-score-is-19-out-possible-100.html

Or getting trademarks from foreign countries..
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Message 1855704 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 4:35:43 UTC

So I'm stupid now? I don't qualify for most of those exemptions, deductions and credits. It doesn't take much to pay 35% and not qualify for breaks and exemptions. All you need is to be single and have a middle-class job.


2016 US Income Tax Brackets
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/tax-brackets.aspx

Tax rate Single...........................Head of household
10% $0 to $9,275 ...................................$0 to $13,250
15% $9,276 to $37,650.............$13,251 to $50,400
25% $37,651 to $91,150...........$50,401 to $130,150
28% $91,151 to $190,15.........$130,151 to $210,800
33% $190,151 to $413,350....$210,801 to $413,350
35% $413,351 to $415,050....$413,351 to $441,000
39.6% $415,051 or more............. $441,001 or more

So you contend you are in the 35% tax bracket and can't afford a competent tax preparer.......................I leave a description of your intelligence level to someone else...........$413,000 a year................sounds a wee bit more than 'middle class' (if there is any value in that label anymore).

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Message 1855711 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 5:17:08 UTC

Well I see that the world's most hated and ignorant redneck is crying like a spoiled 3yr old again over his bigotry orders being slapped down again by another court.

Just more proof that he's unsuitable/unstable/unreliable for the position he holds.

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Message 1855712 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 5:24:28 UTC - in response to Message 1855704.  

So I'm stupid now? I don't qualify for most of those exemptions, deductions and credits. It doesn't take much to pay 35% and not qualify for breaks and exemptions. All you need is to be single and have a middle-class job.


2016 US Income Tax Brackets
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/tax-brackets.aspx

Tax rate Single...........................Head of household
10% $0 to $9,275 ...................................$0 to $13,250
15% $9,276 to $37,650.............$13,251 to $50,400
25% $37,651 to $91,150...........$50,401 to $130,150
28% $91,151 to $190,15.........$130,151 to $210,800
33% $190,151 to $413,350....$210,801 to $413,350
35% $413,351 to $415,050....$413,351 to $441,000
39.6% $415,051 or more............. $441,001 or more

So you contend you are in the 35% tax bracket and can't afford a competent tax preparer.......................I leave a description of your intelligence level to someone else...........$413,000 a year................sounds a wee bit more than 'middle class' (if there is any value in that label anymore).

First, bankrate.com has the wrong information, check the IRS website. Read carefully page 7. Note that the differences are tax fraud.
Second, it doesn't matter who your preparer is, if you don't have deductions, you don't have deductions, or are you suggesting tax fraud? I suppose that is a very republican thing, lie, cheat, steal, perjure.
Third, you seem to think middle income is somewhere in the poverty level**. I thought republicans were somewhat smarter than that about money. Or can't you figure inflation? Oh, self answered, spend more, tax less, and inflation* goes down! Yep, republican thinking.



*inflation = national debt
**without looking it up, can you come up with a number, say standard family of 4? Do you think you could live on that?
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Message 1855762 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 13:22:15 UTC

I think someone copes better with pictures ;-)
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Message 1855763 - Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 13:35:54 UTC - in response to Message 1855760.  

Freedom is disappearing under tRump?
Since he is president of the NWO you tell us.
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