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Message 1845326 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 3:27:52 UTC - in response to Message 1845322.  

Tell me, why is the country where most of the 9/11 killers came from, not on the list of banned countries?

Now that is a $64,000 question.

Maybe Trump has business interests in those countries not banned...

Are you trying to tell me, that your President would break the rules on conflict of interest?
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Message 1845327 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 3:31:23 UTC - in response to Message 1845325.  

WinterNeveRight asked:

Tell me, why is the country where most of the 9/11 killers came from, not on the list of banned countries?


Comes EXACTLY and DIRECTLY from dA LIST, Established by dA PitifulPeacePrizin'Hustlin'Hussein Administration, and By Congress.

BIG BIG BIG Don, Following dA Direction of Your Fave Prez and HIS Congress.

Nice of Him to Follow dA EXCELLENT Example of A Former Prez, eh? DroneHitMan Loved dA $$$audis. So Do Madame $$$CREECH and Her Hubby $$$lick Willie.

Bet Ex-Prez is In A $$$audi Mansion Right Now in KKKalifornia.

Source dAt Yap

We all know your President is the most intelligent good looking guy in the Universe, so why would he he use a list produced by those shysters of the Democratic Party. It's just not logical, surely he would produce his own list.
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Message 1845334 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 4:31:59 UTC - in response to Message 1845317.  

Tell me, why is the country where most of the 9/11 killers came from, not on the list of banned countries?

Short answer: Because the 9/11 killers were financed by rich extremist that live in that country and not by the government of that country.
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Message 1845341 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 4:49:28 UTC - in response to Message 1845315.  

The President is doing exactly what he was elected by the majority of the States to do. I disagree with those who believe that ignoring the fact our immigration system has no way to verify incoming persons from some countries are who they say they are.

As to question of authority to impose such a restriction here it is from the Cornell website

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182
You really need to look at case law to see how much of the "Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952" has been struck as unconstitutional.
You do know this was adopted over President Truman's veto.
Harry Truman wrote:
Today, we are "protecting" ourselves as we were in 1924, against being flooded by immigrants from Eastern Europe. This is fantastic. ... We do not need to be protected against immigrants from these countries–on the contrary we want to stretch out a helping hand, to save those who have managed to flee into Western Europe, to succor those who are brave enough to escape from barbarism, to welcome and restore them against the day when their countries will, as we hope, be free again....These are only a few examples of the absurdity, the cruelty of carrying over into this year of 1952 the isolationist limitations of our 1924 law.

In no other realm of our national life are we so hampered and stultified by the dead hand of the past, as we are in this field of immigration.

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Message 1845355 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 5:48:43 UTC - in response to Message 1845334.  

Tell me, why is the country where most of the 9/11 killers came from, not on the list of banned countries?

Short answer: Because the 9/11 killers were financed by rich extremist that live in that country and not by the government of that country.

Are you saying that the rulers of that country are not rich extremists.
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Message 1845356 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 6:00:58 UTC - in response to Message 1845355.  

Tell me, why is the country where most of the 9/11 killers came from, not on the list of banned countries?

Short answer: Because the 9/11 killers were financed by rich extremist that live in that country and not by the government of that country.

Are you saying that the rulers of that country are not rich extremists.
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Message 1845363 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 6:25:27 UTC - in response to Message 1845356.  

Tell me, why is the country where most of the 9/11 killers came from, not on the list of banned countries?

Short answer: Because the 9/11 killers were financed by rich extremist that live in that country and not by the government of that country.

Are you saying that the rulers of that country are not rich extremists.
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yes

Alternate Facts again. :-(

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Message 1845365 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 6:51:45 UTC - in response to Message 1845363.  

Tell me, why is the country where most of the 9/11 killers came from, not on the list of banned countries?

Short answer: Because the 9/11 killers were financed by rich extremist that live in that country and not by the government of that country.

Are you saying that the rulers of that country are not rich extremists.
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yes

Alternate Facts again. :-(

Cheers.

What do you offer?

Here's what factcheck.com says. Only claims, no proof.

Saudi Arabia and the 9/11 Terrorist Attacks
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/saudi-arabia-and-the-911-terrorist-attacks
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Message 1845366 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 6:55:31 UTC

House of Saud

The family is estimated to comprise 15,000 members, but the majority of the power and wealth is possessed by a group of only about 2,000.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Saud

Looks like of lots of players there.
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Message 1845378 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 8:00:13 UTC - in response to Message 1845366.  

House of Saud

The family is estimated to comprise 15,000 members, but the majority of the power and wealth is possessed by a group of only about 2,000.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Saud

Looks like of lots of players there.

Yes those people,
who have locked up >30,000 political prisoners,
have links to violent groups in Syria and Iraq,
links to al-Qa’ida,

Need I say more.
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Message 1845419 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 13:26:25 UTC - in response to Message 1845378.  

House of Saud

The family is estimated to comprise 15,000 members, but the majority of the power and wealth is possessed by a group of only about 2,000.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Saud

Looks like of lots of players there.

Yes those people,
who have locked up >30,000 political prisoners,
have links to violent groups in Syria and Iraq,
links to al-Qa’ida,

Need I say more.


Have called all atheists terrorists.
Behead people.
Prosecute "witches".
Their "drug war" is far more draconian than ours.
Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
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Message 1845432 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 14:55:50 UTC

You really need to look at case law to see how much of the "Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952" has been struck as unconstitutional.
You do know this was adopted over President Truman's veto.
Harry Truman wrote:

Today, we are "protecting" ourselves as we were in 1924, against being flooded by immigrants from Eastern Europe. This is fantastic. ... We do not need to be protected against immigrants from these countries–on the contrary we want to stretch out a helping hand, to save those who have managed to flee into Western Europe, to succor those who are brave enough to escape from barbarism, to welcome and restore them against the day when their countries will, as we hope, be free again....These are only a few examples of the absurdity, the cruelty of carrying over into this year of 1952 the isolationist limitations of our 1924 law.

In no other realm of our national life are we so hampered and stultified by the dead hand of the past, as we are in this field of immigration.

Section a, b, and c, were indeed found to be unconstitutional, by a Conservative SCOTUS in 1954 and 1957 respectively. These sections dealt with spouses and children, applicants convicted of misdemeanors and crimes of moral turpitude and those afflicted with TB. The objections of President Truman were in support of those fleeing Europe due to Soviet encroachment and oppression and seeking to join our way of life not destroy it.

This is a different world. Many of those now seeking admission to our society wish to establish enclaves of separate belief systems and laws(Sharia), not to become a component of the 'Great Melting Pot' that is the basis of American Society. I firmly hold the opinion that all should be allowed to worship whatever deity 'floats their boat' or not believe if that is their FREE choice, and as long as that choice is not FORCED on others. We've seen enough religious fanaticism here, Jonestown, the Branch Davidians, and other lesser known groups have wrought havoc on innocent lives through religious intimidation, we don't need more.

Again, Trump is acting with Imperialistic Orders in the manner taught by that self-described Constitutional Scholar Barack Obama. The only thing that will stop the swing back and forth from Imperial Leftist Policy Orders to Imperial Rightist Policy Orders is an Originalist SCOTUS that enforces the Constitution as written, not interpreted by the Justice du jour.

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Message 1845434 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 15:05:28 UTC - in response to Message 1845432.  


Again, Trump is acting with Imperialistic Orders in the manner taught by that self-described Constitutional Scholar Barack Obama. The only thing that will stop the swing back and forth from Imperial Leftist Policy Orders to Imperial Rightist Policy Orders is an Originalist SCOTUS that enforces the Constitution as written, not interpreted by the Justice du jour.


I agree on the Originalist point. But I would also add 'strict constructionist (both laws and the Constitution)' as well.

Laws and the Constitution need to be taken literally... AS WRITTEN... with NO 'discovery of hidden rights/meanings/etc.'. It says what it says, and ONLY what it says, with word meanings interpreted based on the meaning of the words in use when they were written. If there is still a question, then go back to other writings by the persons that wrote the thing to determine meanings.

YMMV, SSFD.
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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1845445 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 16:16:49 UTC - in response to Message 1845432.  
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This is a different world. Many of those now seeking admission to our society wish to establish enclaves of separate belief systems and laws(Sharia)...
--" the Red Scare was "a nationwide anti-radical hysteria provoked by a mounting fear and anxiety that a Bolshevik revolution in America was imminent—a revolution that would change Church, home, marriage, civility, and the American way of Life.""

Doesn't seem like this world is different at all...

(Also, Truman was a puppet)



...Jonestown, the Branch Davidians, and other lesser known groups have wrought havoc on innocent lives through religious intimidation, we don't need more...
Jonestown (918 people) didn't even happen in our borders, you didn't mention Heaven's Gate which did happen in the US(39 people). And Waco caused the death of 76 people.

[For those following along, these examples are responsible for the deaths of 1033 people. For comparison, in 2015 alone, over 35,000 people were killed in auto accidents.]

But on the the real point, all of these religious fanatic groups- Davidian's, Heaven's Gate, People's Temple, were founded by American US citizens! So what exactly would closing our borders do to fix this 'huge problem'??

The only thing I can see closing borders being helpful with, is protecting OTHER countries from our home-grown fanatics!
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Message 1845456 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 17:24:06 UTC

Doesn't seem like this world is different at all...
Difference is the Socialists are now within.
(Also, Truman was a puppet)
And Obama and Clinton weren't??(Soros and the 'World Order'). And if a puppet his objection to the immigration act was that of his puppet masters.........

The rest of your post is just deflection as is the usual tactic when a point is so indefensible. The simple solution for those wishing to come here in peace is just follow the direction of the Borg Collective. Assimilate. Become one with American values and freedoms, don't try to warp them into some other form of enslavement.

Trump is pissing off the Republicans as much as the Dims. JUST AS HE WAS ELECTED TO DO. Drain the Swamp. Go back to the Legislature negotiating with each side to enact laws not pouting, lying (and crying) on the floor of the Senate and being intractable. The purpose of the Presidency is to 'Preserve, protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic' not write the laws. The purpose of SCOTUS is to determine the validity of laws within the framework of the Constitution AS WRITTEN, not to legislate from the bench. The purpose of the Legislature is to conceive, fashion and enact the laws, not abdicate that duty to either of the other branches(as has been the case for almost a century).

As Trump said the time for empty talk is over, those in Congress who do not perform the duties they were elected directly to do by the people will be replaced. By the People. They will be called out by those who do perform and spotlighted by the President. The rocks will be turned over and the slimy things living underneath will scurry for cover.

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Message 1845476 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 18:23:22 UTC - in response to Message 1845432.  

I firmly hold the opinion that all should be allowed to worship whatever deity 'floats their boat' or not believe if that is their FREE choice, and as long as that choice is not FORCED on others. We've seen enough religious fanaticism here, Jonestown, the Branch Davidians, and other lesser known groups have wrought havoc on innocent lives through religious intimidation, we don't need more.
This we agree upon, but you have missed some of the worst offenders, Billy Graham, Pat Robertson, Jim Baker, Garner Ted Armstrong, Jerry Falwell, Oral Roberts, Robert Schuller, Gene Scott, Jimmy Swaggart.
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Message 1845479 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 18:26:16 UTC - in response to Message 1845476.  

I firmly hold the opinion that all should be allowed to worship whatever deity 'floats their boat' or not believe if that is their FREE choice, and as long as that choice is not FORCED on others. We've seen enough religious fanaticism here, Jonestown, the Branch Davidians, and other lesser known groups have wrought havoc on innocent lives through religious intimidation, we don't need more.
This we agree upon, but you have missed some of the worst offenders, Billy Graham, Pat Robertson, Jim Baker, Garner Ted Armstrong, Jerry Falwell, Oral Roberts, Robert Schuller, Gene Scott, Jimmy Swaggart.

Hmm....
I don't recall any on that list ever forcing me to read their tracts, listen to their radio broadcasts, or watch their television shows.
Just sayin'.
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Message 1845503 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 20:30:24 UTC
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Hmm....
I don't recall any on that list ever forcing me to read their tracts, listen to their radio broadcasts, or watch their television shows.
Just sayin'.
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It's like guns...........don't like them?
Don't buy one!

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Message 1845524 - Posted: 30 Jan 2017, 22:00:30 UTC - in response to Message 1845503.  

Hmm....
I don't recall any on that list ever forcing me to read their tracts, listen to their radio broadcasts, or watch their television shows.
Just sayin'.
Meow.........indeed!
It's like guns...........don't like them?
Don't buy one!

Right. Never heard of anyone kidnapping and forcing people to join Heaven's Gate, Branch Dividians, or Jonestown either.
Seems your example Mr. Eye is full of BS!
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Message 1845555 - Posted: 31 Jan 2017, 0:40:36 UTC - in response to Message 1845322.  

Maybe Trump has business interests in those countries not banned...

Not just 'maybe'.
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