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Message 1839889 - Posted: 4 Jan 2017, 6:08:40 UTC
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But.
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Aren't ethics EEEViLLL?
And, besides, if we try to follow them, well, Bill BAD!!! Hillary BAD!!! I can do anything as a moderator because Slick Willy got seduced by an of age woman of consent and he fell for it!!! Bill BAD!!! So, it's ok if the rest of us are BAAAAD!
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Message 1839892 - Posted: 4 Jan 2017, 6:17:25 UTC

Well, you should have reported on how they enacted a law criminalizing allowing the public to see what happens on the floor of the house by making photos and video illegal. That is a great way to achieve transparency especially when you also want to get rid of the office of ethics.

It appears as if they know what they want to do can't be done out in the open. Now they are going to force feed it like a dictator.

It would seem that way Gary, and it seems they have this all thought out with or without Trump. Maybe we will see more of the tail wagging the dog in the near future..

And as far as the ethics office? They are not gutting it yet, but they do plan to 'revisit' the issue later this year. So we're not out of the woods yet.


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Message 1839923 - Posted: 4 Jan 2017, 15:15:09 UTC
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Yea you guys are right. Trump and/or any other republican OR democrat should be allowed to do as they wish. And if anyone disagrees with what they do, or points out what they are doing and possibly why, they should be ignored entirely. Better yet, we should put together a secret police force that goes to these "liberal's" houses and takes care of them. Maybe they can be rounded up in the night, brought out to a field, and executed.

The LAST thing we can have, is people watching and commenting or reporting on what's going on, even if it's true. It's time we just turn a blind eye to our government now. In Trump we trust.

Oh the horror that some people actually care about *actual* freedom. When your precious constitution is ignored in order to quell the people we can all just shrug and roll over and let the stupid and dangerous things happen, 'cause doing anything about it, even talking about it, is un-American.

#murrica! #MAGA!


also note, the so-called 'fake news' sites are aimed at the right, not the left.
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Message 1839924 - Posted: 4 Jan 2017, 15:16:17 UTC
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Left Naysayers Myth Destruction #1

"Trump will sell out the country to Big Business and create a Fascist regime".

a) Carrier

b) Boeing

c) Lockheed/Martin

d) Ford

e) General Motors

Yeah, it really looks like that's what he has in mind................and he's not even in the White House yet.

Oh, and that little 'plumbing job' he spoke about?

Fact: Washington DC is actually built on a swamp...........
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[edit] *actual* freedom=riots because I didn't get my blankie.....................boo hoo.

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Message 1839928 - Posted: 4 Jan 2017, 15:26:08 UTC - in response to Message 1839923.  

Yea you guys are right. Trump and/or any other republicans should be allowed to do as they wish. And if anyone disagrees with what they do, or points out what they are doing and possibly why, they should be ignored entirely. Better yet, we should put together a secret police force that goes to these "liberal's" houses and takes care of them. Maybe they can be rounded up in the night, brought out to a field, and executed.

The LAST thing we can have, is people watching and commenting or reporting on what's going on, even if it's true. It's time we just turn a blind eye to our government now. In Trump we trust.

Oh the horror that some people actually care about *actual* freedom. When your precious constitution is ignored in order to quell the people we can all just shrug and roll over and let the stupid and dangerous things happen, 'cause doing anything about it, even talking about it, is un-American.

#murrica! #MAGA!


also note, the so-called 'fake news' sites are aimed at the right, not the left.


In Trump we trust.


Oh, HELL NO.

When your precious constitution is ignored in order to quell the people we can all just shrug and roll over and let the stupid and dangerous things happen


Heh... That is what has been happening since FDR, and it got much much worse with LBJ.

some people actually care about *actual* freedom


Yes, some still do... mainly Libertarians. But, remember, with Freedom for your self comes Personal Responsibility for your self.
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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1839930 - Posted: 4 Jan 2017, 15:42:59 UTC - in response to Message 1839915.  
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And now Obama is forming the military up against Russia on their border. I'm sure Putin understands those troops will only be there for 16 more days. And I hope Putin has the strength to take some random fire over his border without returning fire for the next 16 days.

Is there anyway we can inaugurate Trump today so Obama can't start a war with Russia?


Are you reading your fake news sites again? Besides the sanctions (kicking out diplomats and promising the intel community will retaliate the cyber attacks in kind), what military action has the US taken against Russia since they were blamed for the 'alleged' hacking??

talk about tin-foil hats

and if you are talking about American-BACKED forces that are already in the region for OTHER REASONS, please be clearer before you post misinformation.
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Message 1839932 - Posted: 4 Jan 2017, 16:00:44 UTC - in response to Message 1839924.  
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Jaundiced, I am willing to give this pro-business thing a chance, but yes you bet your @$$ I don't think it's the right way. (I see the reality of what Reaganomics did to the blue-collar backbone of America). Time will tell. Trumpler is good at putting on a show, that's for sure. But a few deals does not a policy make! You hang on to these examples, cause they'll be the only thing you can site if this economy takes a slump. Saving a few thousand jobs by being a bully, I don't see yet what this will do in the bigger picture. Time will tell.

As far as protests being childish (Guy)? The right to protest is a FREEDOM, if you don't like people protesting things maybe it's time to find a common ground to work from. Protests brought you things like WEEKENDS and OVERTIME and other RIGHTS. Those people were not 'whiners', they are heroes who's actions affected all of us in a positive way.

Jaundiced I'm not aware where people are rioting in the US, my news sources must not be up to date I guess..



None of this post has even touched on the scary parts of Trumps platform and cabinet. He has open bigots in his cabinet, and when I hear this 'make america great again' rhetoric, I see right though it to the real agenda- 'leave most of america behind again'.

Time will tell. Mark your calendars on the 20th, Trump takes over a recovering economy with record-low (post recession) unemployment and a growing GDP. Let's see where it goes from here.
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Message 1839948 - Posted: 4 Jan 2017, 17:27:43 UTC

The horrified screams of the right continue with every little iota of TAT.

TAT Truth About Trump.


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Message 1839949 - Posted: 4 Jan 2017, 17:34:15 UTC

Jaundiced, I am willing to give this pro-business thing a chance, but yes you bet your @$$ I don't think it's the right way. (I see the reality of what Reaganomics did to the blue-collar backbone of America
Reaganomics was the cause.......?OMG

Exactly what color is the sky in your world?

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Message 1839953 - Posted: 4 Jan 2017, 18:06:47 UTC

MakeAmericaSICK AGAIN. dA Demagogues of dA Left Spewing dA Rhetoric of Their New Mantra. MakeAmericaSICK AGAIN.

Lefty Party Already Languishing in ICU. Keeping Up Their CRYBABY HATE Speech will Metaphorically, Put Them and Their Party, in dA Morgue.

Soon, They will 'Bury' Themselves, metaphorically, in A Dark, Weedy Gravesite. NEVER to Rise Again, except as ZOMBIES. ZOMBIES Always MakeThingsWorse, so, it Be Best to Stay Cold, Quiet, and Buried.

dA Party Kool-Aid of dA LEFTIES is Gushing Out of Its Spigot, Drowning dA CRYBABY HATERS.

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Message 1839956 - Posted: 4 Jan 2017, 18:18:46 UTC - in response to Message 1839949.  

Jaundiced, I am willing to give this pro-business thing a chance, but yes you bet your @$$ I don't think it's the right way. (I see the reality of what Reaganomics did to the blue-collar backbone of America
Reaganomics was the cause.......?OMG

Exactly what color is the sky in your world?

Eye, his sky is the same color as mine. Yes I too see Reaganomics as being a major factor. You are entitled to your post truth opinion but that does not make it true. The old adage about telling the same lie over and over will convince many people applies here, you appear to be one of them.
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Message 1839970 - Posted: 4 Jan 2017, 19:26:32 UTC - in response to Message 1839955.  

Yea you guys are right. Trump and/or any other republican OR democrat should be allowed to do as they wish


NO!

LIMITED FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!


How to limit them? It's already defined in the constitution.

Only were it.

The way to limit is to have the house a super majority of one party, the senate a super majority of a different party and the president from a third party.
Then and only then do you stand a chance of limits. The only way something will get passed is if three wildly different viewpoints see it as necessary. In that case it most likely is necessary.

Unfortunately the above isn't in the constitution. Perhaps the states should make it so.
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Message 1839973 - Posted: 4 Jan 2017, 19:39:23 UTC - in response to Message 1839956.  

Jaundiced, I am willing to give this pro-business thing a chance, but yes you bet your @$$ I don't think it's the right way. (I see the reality of what Reaganomics did to the blue-collar backbone of America
Reaganomics was the cause.......?OMG

Exactly what color is the sky in your world?

Eye, his sky is the same color as mine. Yes I too see Reaganomics as being a major factor. You are entitled to your post truth opinion but that does not make it true. The old adage about telling the same lie over and over will convince many people applies here, you appear to be one of them.


betreger,

You (and others) are against what was supposed to be Reaganomics (remember, the spending cuts portion was NEVER implemented), because it would require the dismantling of your precious socialist nanny-state Government that all of the Progressives have been working at setting up over the last century.

It IS this socialist nanny-state (and organized labor as well) that is what is costing all of the blue-collar jobs in the USA. Business adapts to rising labor and regulatory costs by moving production to places where these costs are LOWER. But, the Progressives don't care... They don't care about improving things for everyone, but only about gaining and maintaining political power for themselves by keeping The People dependent on (that is to say ENSLAVED by) the Government.

Oh, and by the way, whenever you refer to someone else's position as 'post-truth', you are admitting that your position is no-truth.

The lie in modern American politics is that "Government can solve everyone's problems." Government can not. Government CAN, however, do what it has been doing (for the most part) for about the last century... Keep as many people as possible dependent on (ENSLAVED BY) the Government in order to maintain electoral dominance. And no, I am not aiming these remarks at just the Democrats. The Republicans have been at the SAME game (though with different 'favored groups'). BOTH parties got infected by the Progressive ideology about a century ago, and lost their souls.

A great man, Patrick Henry, once said:

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!


from his Speech given March 23, 1775
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Message 1839975 - Posted: 4 Jan 2017, 20:14:06 UTC - in response to Message 1839973.  

Major a couple of sorry facts.
When I came of age in the 60s the streets of America were lined with family owned small businesses, mostly gone now.
The repeal of Glass- Steagle during the Clinton admin but carrying on the spirit of Reaganomics destroyed the concept of conservative banking which led to the 2008 melt down.
NAFTA, along with robotics eliminated many manufacturing jobs, no jobs no unions, to the great benefit of a very small number of citizens.
The nanny state is not your enemy you should fear the pitchforks.
It is often in human nature when faced with a problem to take action which excerbates the problem. IE while driving on an icy road the natural reflex is to steer away from a slide when the correct procedure is to gently steer into it so as to regain control.
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Major a couple of sorry facts.
When I came of age in the 60s the streets of America were lined with family owned small businesses, mostly gone now.
The repeal of Glass- Steagle during the Clinton admin but carrying on the spirit of Reaganomics destroyed the concept of conservative banking which led to the 2008 melt down.
NAFTA, along with robotics eliminated many manufacturing jobs, no jobs no unions, to the great benefit of a very small number of citizens.
The nanny state is not your enemy you should fear the pitchforks.
It is often in human nature when faced with a problem to take action which excerbates the problem. IE while driving on an icy road the natural reflex is to steer away from a slide when the correct procedure is to gently steer into it so as to regain control.


I remember the 60's too, ya know. Your first sentence is correct but totally irrevalent to the topic.

What led to the 2008 meltdown was the nanny-state Government trying to solve a problem, and as usual totally goobering things up in the process.

The Glass-Steagall Act was enacted in 1933 in response to banking crises in the 1920s and early 1930s. It imposed the separation of commercial and investment banking. In 1999, after decades of incremental changes to the operation of the legislation, as well as significant shifts in the structure of the financial services industry, Glass-Steagall was partially repealed by the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act.

When the United States suffered a severe financial crisis less than a decade later, some leapt to the conclusion that this repeal was at least partly to blame. Indeed, both the Republicans and the Democrats included the reinstatement of Glass-Steagall in their 2016 election platforms.

However, the argument that repealing Glass-Steagall caused the financial crisis, and that bringing it back would prevent future crises, is not supported by the facts. Glass-Steagall could not have prevented the bank failures of the 1920s and early 1930s had it been in force earlier, and wouldn’t have averted the 2008 financial crisis had it stayed in force after 1999.

Widespread Depression-era bank failures were primarily due to the fragility of the banking system at that time. Regulations that prohibited branch banking meant that America’s banks were frequently very small, with undiversified loan portfolios tied to the local economy of specific regions. Persistent crop failures and falling real estate values pushed thousands of these banks over the edge. Loan-financed securities speculation — the target of Glass-Steagall — had very little to do with it.

Likewise, during the recent financial crisis, commercial bank failures were largely driven by credit losses on real estate loans. The banks that failed generally pursued high-risk business strategies that combined nontraditional funding sources with aggressive subprime lending. Glass-Steagall would not have stopped any of this. Nor could it have stopped standalone investment banks, such as Lehman Brothers, from running into trouble.

Ultimately, those who see a simple solution to our contemporary financial woes in repealing Gramm-Leach-Bliley and reimposing Glass-Steagall only betray their misunderstanding of both pieces of legislation. The causes of financial crises — past, present, and future — lie elsewhere.


https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/repeal-glass-steagall-act-myth-reality#full

Non-traditional funding sources... Aggressive subprime lending...

Why?

Simple... The Community Reinvestment Act, signed into law by Carter in 1977, as amended multiple times over the years did it. The CRA effectively forced the banks to lend to people that, honestly, had NO business getting housing loans in the first place due to a very precarious ability to pay the loans back.

THAT is what caused the 2008 financial crisis. Period.

NAFTA... Remember H. Ross Perot's "Giant Sucking Sound" remarks about NAFTA... But, again Clinton supported it.

Lets see... Democrats repealed Glass Steagall... Democrats passed NAFTA (over the objections of a businessman (Perot - Reform Party) running for President, and also a businessman that just got elected President (Trump - RINO) wants to undo it). The CRA was passed and signed into law by Democrats. Seems to me that your blame of Reaganomics is misplaced.

The nanny state IS the enemy of us all. Me fear those with Pitchforks?? LOL They should fear my 2nd amendment rights.. 30-06 beats a farm tool, any day of the week.

Quit looking to the Government to solve all of your problems. It can not. All it can do is keep you a slave. Be free! Ditch socialism.
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Message 1840014 - Posted: 4 Jan 2017, 23:57:41 UTC

Ya mean like the nanny state of Texas that is in U.S. District Judge Sam Sparks court today demanding that they be able to nanny parents? It is so bad that here at work a reporter for the Los Angeles times came in for background on these Texas nannies! Texas is going to order parents to spend cash they don't have on services they don't want. (Sound like Obamacare?)

Red nannies are just the same as blue nannies. Vile and disgusting.

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Message 1840020 - Posted: 5 Jan 2017, 0:58:36 UTC

Supreme KKKaliPHONia WhackoWeeper CRYBABY MoonBeam, foaming at dA Mouth said: If Trump turns off the satellites, California will launch its own damn satellite...I didn't get that moniker for nothing.
Man O Live. SICKoPhant CRYBABIES are WHACKED.

DEM/LIB/Progressive/Socialist/COMMIE/CRYBABIES are SICK Again. As Per Usual.

Likeee Exploding into A Singularity of TOTAL FAIL. Likeee Dere PitifulPeacePrizin'TOTALFAIL Hustlin'Hussein Soon to be Ex(heeeheeeheee) Prez.

EXceptional Yap

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