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Message 1839171 - Posted: 31 Dec 2016, 16:49:43 UTC - in response to Message 1839134.  

Mr. Eye, ES is not a Democrat.
Neither am I.
"A rose(or a cabbage), by any other name....."

Despite what you like to believe, your political system is not the centre of the world.

Your insistence that it does reminds me of the old joke about a man who walks into a bar in Northern Ireland and is asked if he is a Catholic or a Protestant. He replies that he is a Muslim, so the bartender says, " yes, but are you a Catholic Muslim or a Protestant Muslim?"

Thats how daft you sound when think anyone who is upset that Trump won must be a democrat. Perhaps as people outside looking in, we have a clearer perspective than you do?
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Message 1839187 - Posted: 31 Dec 2016, 17:47:52 UTC - in response to Message 1839171.  

Mr. Eye, ES is not a Democrat.
Neither am I.
"A rose(or a cabbage), by any other name....."

Despite what you like to believe, your political system is not the centre of the world.

Your insistence that it does reminds me of the old joke about a man who walks into a bar in Northern Ireland and is asked if he is a Catholic or a Protestant. He replies that he is a Muslim, so the bartender says, " yes, but are you a Catholic Muslim or a Protestant Muslim?"

That's how daft you sound when think anyone who is upset that Trump won must be a democrat. Perhaps as people outside looking in, we have a clearer perspective than you do?

What we have is an example of "ism" in action by an "ist" Pure binary thinking. All things are "D" or "R" There can be no "L", "G", "A" or any other thing in his world. Sad.
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Message 1839192 - Posted: 31 Dec 2016, 18:26:01 UTC - in response to Message 1839187.  

Mr. Eye, ES is not a Democrat.
Neither am I.
"A rose(or a cabbage), by any other name....."

Despite what you like to believe, your political system is not the centre of the world.

Your insistence that it does reminds me of the old joke about a man who walks into a bar in Northern Ireland and is asked if he is a Catholic or a Protestant. He replies that he is a Muslim, so the bartender says, " yes, but are you a Catholic Muslim or a Protestant Muslim?"

That's how daft you sound when think anyone who is upset that Trump won must be a democrat. Perhaps as people outside looking in, we have a clearer perspective than you do?

What we have is an example of "ism" in action by an "ist" Pure binary thinking. All things are "D" or "R" There can be no "L", "G", "A" or any other thing in his world. Sad.
What is sad is the arrogance of those who claim to speak in the name of 'the rest of the world.' Get over yourselves.

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Message 1839205 - Posted: 31 Dec 2016, 19:26:06 UTC - in response to Message 1839192.  

What is sad is the arrogance of those who claim to speak in the name of 'the rest of the world.' Get over yourselves.

Eye you should look in the mirror.
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Message 1839208 - Posted: 31 Dec 2016, 19:34:41 UTC - in response to Message 1839205.  

What is sad is the arrogance of those who claim to speak in the name of 'the rest of the world.' Get over yourselves.

Eye you should look in the mirror.


I don't recall using 'the rest of the world' as agreeing with any post I've made, I leave that to others.
My beliefs are my own and I presume to speak for no one but myself, as should all.

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Message 1839236 - Posted: 31 Dec 2016, 22:09:23 UTC - in response to Message 1839205.  

What is sad is the arrogance of those who claim to speak in the name of 'the rest of the world.' Get over yourselves.

Eye you should look in the mirror.

Anyone who disagrees with his view is the rest of the world, even when they only speak for themselves.

There are a few posters here who should look into that mirror.
Especially those that scream "get over it" when the only thing being offered is information about the incoming president.
They are in the LA LA LA LA LA LA LA! with fingers in the ear stage.
Denial, the first stage of grief.
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Message 1839277 - Posted: 1 Jan 2017, 0:16:53 UTC - in response to Message 1839259.  
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What is sad is the arrogance of those who claim to speak in the name of 'the rest of the world.' Get over yourselves.

Eye you should look in the mirror.

Your mirror?

No his own, he pontificates as if his absolutist views are THE ANSWER to societies ills.
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Message 1839383 - Posted: 1 Jan 2017, 14:10:07 UTC

No his own, he pontificates as if his absolutist views are THE ANSWER to societies ills.
Pontification seems to be a major component of this thread but is only vilified when coming from the Conservative viewpoint............


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Message 1839417 - Posted: 1 Jan 2017, 16:37:28 UTC - in response to Message 1839389.  

No his own, he pontificates as if his absolutist views are THE ANSWER to societies ills.
Pontification seems to be a major component of this thread but is only vilified when coming from the Conservative viewpoint............


If.................you..............don't................like...........what.................I.....................post..................use...............Mr.................Filter......................Button.....................

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JaundicedEye...

Unlike you, me, and a few other posters. 'They' must censor idea's they disagree with. 'They' cannot compete in a world of ethical, moral, nor intellectual exchange of views.

IE: Disgustingly accusing ALL who disagree with them of Xenophobia, Racism, Sexism, etc.

Please don't encourage, the must be stopped Right Wing Speech Police, and their Cousins in Hate, the Left Wing Speech Police.


Yes, Clyde. Thought Police doubleplus ungood... And they are running rampant around here.

Freedom of thought and freedom of speech are meaningless... UNLESS one has the FREEDOM to think and say things that others either disagree with or are offended by.

Orwell's 1984 is coming to pass... a few decades late. His 'Animal Farm', however, is ALREADY here.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1839420 - Posted: 1 Jan 2017, 16:59:40 UTC - in response to Message 1839417.  

No his own, he pontificates as if his absolutist views are THE ANSWER to societies ills.
Pontification seems to be a major component of this thread but is only vilified when coming from the Conservative viewpoint............


If.................you..............don't................like...........what.................I.....................post..................use...............Mr.................Filter......................Button.....................

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Unlike you, me, and a few other posters. 'They' must censor idea's they disagree with. 'They' cannot compete in a world of ethical, moral, nor intellectual exchange of views.

IE: Disgustingly accusing ALL who disagree with them of Xenophobia, Racism, Sexism, etc.

Please don't encourage, the must be stopped Right Wing Speech Police, and their Cousins in Hate, the Left Wing Speech Police.


Yes, Clyde. Thought Police doubleplus ungood... And they are running rampant around here.

Freedom of thought and freedom of speech are meaningless... UNLESS one has the FREEDOM to think and say things that others either disagree with or are offended by.

Orwell's 1984 is coming to pass... a few decades late. His 'Animal Farm', however, is ALREADY here.


Oh, PUH-LEEEASE. Give us a BREA-AK!
People choosing which people to converse with is NOT 1984. 1984 is government censorship.
I don't agree with everything you say, or Bobby or OzzFan or Gary or Clyde, etc. ..., but I read and converse.
I don't read, nor converse with, those who choose not to put me on ignore yet refuse to understand what I am saying and give it no thought no merit ... then put words in our mouths and minds. And throw insults. Those that frequently break, or are just on the border of breaking, the rules you yourself once had to enforce. I am sure many others that choose to employ the ignore button do so for similar reasons. NOT because we are seeking a safe space/echo chamber nor because we are the hateful ones.
Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
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Message 1839432 - Posted: 1 Jan 2017, 17:35:40 UTC - in response to Message 1839389.  

Please don't encourage, the must be stopped Right Wing Speech Police, and their Cousins in Hate, the Left Wing Speech Police.

They are only police when they have the power to throw you in a jail cell and schedule your execution.
If they don't have that power they are just exercising the same free speech you use but would deny to them.
Look in that mirror Clyde.
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Message 1839435 - Posted: 1 Jan 2017, 17:42:02 UTC - in response to Message 1839432.  

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Message 1839440 - Posted: 1 Jan 2017, 17:52:40 UTC - in response to Message 1839389.  

No his own, he pontificates as if his absolutist views are THE ANSWER to societies ills.
Pontification seems to be a major component of this thread but is only vilified when coming from the Conservative viewpoint............


If.................you..............don't................like...........what.................I.....................post..................use...............Mr.................Filter......................Button.....................

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Unlike you, me, and a few other posters. 'They' must censor idea's they disagree with. 'They' cannot compete in a world of ethical, moral, nor intellectual exchange of views.

IE: Disgustingly accusing ALL who disagree with them of Xenophobia, Racism, Sexism, etc.

Please don't encourage, the must be stopped Right Wing Speech Police, and their Cousins in Hate, the Left Wing Speech Police.

Considering that I know exactly how little anyone here is censored, I call out your nonsense and take extreme offense to it. Or are you going to call be a liar just because I am left wing?

It's my left wing ideals that mean you and Eye get to spout the rubbish that you do. It also means that I have the right to call you out on it. That's what free speech means.

If you don't want to be accused of saying racist, homophobic or sexist things, don't say racist, homophobic and sexist things. At the very least don't complain because you've been given enough rope to hang yourselves.
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Message 1839449 - Posted: 1 Jan 2017, 18:48:15 UTC - in response to Message 1839440.  



If you don't want to be accused of saying racist, homophobic or sexist things, don't say racist, homophobic and sexist things. At the very least don't complain because you've been given enough rope to hang yourselves.


That IS the thought police/censorship around here, and elsewhere.

You, yourself, among many many others, label views that you personally disagree with as something *ist or *ic.... implying there is something 'wrong' with people that believe that way.

Just because you think something someone said is *ist, does not MAKE it *ist.

Case in point:

Voter ID laws.

The integrity of the voting process for various Government officials is VERY important to ensure the legitimacy of the Government.

We have multiple (a great many, in fact) VERIFIED cases of, for instance, dead people somehow voting...

It does not matter which party/faction/individuals are doing it, it NEEDS to be stopped.

Having an ID process in place is a necessary component of stopping it.

But, many seem to think that the motivation of people proposing it is... well... racist. It may very well be, in some cases... but NOT in everyone that suggests it, such as myself.

It is a good idea, to help ensure the integrity of the voting process. And there are, in for instance the Texas voter ID law, numerous safeguards built in to ensure that it does not unduly affect poor or minority people. In Texas, one form of voter IDs are issued FREE.

If voting is important enough to people, they can go get an acceptable ID for free. If it not important enough to the person to go get it, then perhaps voting is not important enough to that person. After all, we need ID for a great many other things, as well (such as getting a job, or getting some government benefits).

But nooo.... It seems that Democrats in the USA are more interested in gaining/keeping power than doing things to improve the process... And since it was Republicans that typically propose Voter ID requirements, the Democrats accuse it of being 'racist' as part of the Great Game of Politics, D vs. R edition that they are engaged in. The news media, for the most part, are in collusion with the Democrats, and the accusation the Democrats made has generally been accepted as fact by a great many.

All of this Democrat vs. Republican felgercarb is ruining the Nation, dividing us. It is keeping the People distracted from seeing what is really happening (the chains of Authortarian slavery slowly being buckled on us ALL).

Sigh...

Time for #Texit. At least here in Texas, we are not as far gone as much of the rest of the USA and the world... yet...
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1839453 - Posted: 1 Jan 2017, 19:06:56 UTC - in response to Message 1839449.  

But, many seem to think that the motivation of people proposing it is... well... racist. It may very well be, in some cases

In all too many cases as is reducing the number and hours of polling stations in minority districts. Standing in line for 8 hours to vote is incredible, think about North Carolina and tell us why that isn't racist.
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Message 1839456 - Posted: 1 Jan 2017, 19:24:59 UTC - in response to Message 1839449.  



If you don't want to be accused of saying racist, homophobic or sexist things, don't say racist, homophobic and sexist things. At the very least don't complain because you've been given enough rope to hang yourselves.


That IS the thought police/censorship around here, and elsewhere.

You, yourself, among many many others, label views that you personally disagree with as something *ist or *ic.... implying there is something 'wrong' with people that believe that way.

Just because you think something someone said is *ist, does not MAKE it *ist.

Case in point:

Voter ID laws.

The integrity of the voting process for various Government officials is VERY important to ensure the legitimacy of the Government.

We have multiple (a great many, in fact) VERIFIED cases of, for instance, dead people somehow voting...

It does not matter which party/faction/individuals are doing it, it NEEDS to be stopped.

Having an ID process in place is a necessary component of stopping it.

But, many seem to think that the motivation of people proposing it is... well... racist. It may very well be, in some cases... but NOT in everyone that suggests it, such as myself.

It is a good idea, to help ensure the integrity of the voting process. And there are, in for instance the Texas voter ID law, numerous safeguards built in to ensure that it does not unduly affect poor or minority people. In Texas, one form of voter IDs are issued FREE.

If voting is important enough to people, they can go get an acceptable ID for free. If it not important enough to the person to go get it, then perhaps voting is not important enough to that person. After all, we need ID for a great many other things, as well (such as getting a job, or getting some government benefits).

But nooo.... It seems that Democrats in the USA are more interested in gaining/keeping power than doing things to improve the process... And since it was Republicans that typically propose Voter ID requirements, the Democrats accuse it of being 'racist' as part of the Great Game of Politics, D vs. R edition that they are engaged in. The news media, for the most part, are in collusion with the Democrats, and the accusation the Democrats made has generally been accepted as fact by a great many.

All of this Democrat vs. Republican felgercarb is ruining the Nation, dividing us. It is keeping the People distracted from seeing what is really happening (the chains of Authortarian slavery slowly being buckled on us ALL).

Sigh...

Time for #Texit. At least here in Texas, we are not as far gone as much of the rest of the USA and the world... yet...

The long history of black voter suppression in American politics

"The through-line was obvious in North Carolina: cite voter fraud as a problem, link early voting to increased voter fraud, cut back on early voting, see lower black turnout — and therefore Democratic turnout. A federal judge tossed North Carolina’s law, saying it intended to “target African Americans with almost surgical precision,” but after the law was repealed, counties were able to implement early voting as they saw fit. In one county, the New York Times reports, the number of early voting locations dropped from 16 in 2012 to one this year."

Your discussion of voter fraud and ID seems so reasonable on face value, except when you take into account that there is very little actual voter fraud, so why such a severe cure for such a nonexistent problem?

Texas’s voter ID chicanery

"A federal court in Texas found that more than 600,000 residents lack the particular forms of ID now required of voters there. A federal court in the District in 2012 found clear evidence that many “working poor” residents would be unable to procure or afford an ID deemed valid, and that disproportionate numbers of them would be black and Hispanic. The evidence Texas produced to demonstrate the contrary was “unpersuasive, invalid, or both,” the court said, in an opinion by a panel that included two judges appointed by Democratic presidents and one appointed by a Republican."

Now, when you read this, try to remember that I am not a Democrat. The only horse I have in this race is one of my sense of justice and fairness.
The voter ID laws are clearly targeted at certain demographics. Coming from a demographic where people died to secure my right to vote, this is a sensitive issue for me. I am from one of those demographics that cannot afford to take my rights for granted. I am everyday aware that there are those that would take them from me. I am very aware that those very people were put in power in the US during the last election.

I cannot afford to be complacent when I see the rights of those like me being eroded as I know those rights are fragile and I know what it cost to get them.

If I call someone sexist, I know what I'm talking about, not only do I know what I'm talking about, I am painfully aware of the consequences on people like me of sexism. I am very aware of the attitudes that pervade our society and that there are many who refuse to see that they hold those attitudes. Unfortunately that doesn't mean I can un-see it.
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Message 1839461 - Posted: 1 Jan 2017, 19:32:04 UTC - in response to Message 1839453.  

But, many seem to think that the motivation of people proposing it is... well... racist. It may very well be, in some cases

In all too many cases as is reducing the number and hours of polling stations in minority districts. Standing in line for 8 hours to vote is incredible, think about North Carolina and tell us why that isn't racist.


Cite the proof that happened, betreger, as I did for you when you asked about 'dead people voting' in a post, yesterday.

And, surely, the hours of polling stations on election day in NC are fixed, by law... They certainly are here in Texas. Or, are you referring to 'early voting' (which needs heavy restriction, if not total elimination, in my opinion).

Looks to me like it is more of the D vs. R crap. The SOONER the Democrats AND the Republicans are either eliminated as parties or at least made irrelevant by losing their effective monopoly on the political process, the BETTER it will be for the Nation and EVERYONE.

Both parties are more interested in squabbling over POWER than they are the good of the nation.

A pox on both of them.
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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1839462 - Posted: 1 Jan 2017, 19:37:10 UTC

It's my left wing ideals that mean you and Eye get to spout the rubbish that you do. It also means that I have the right to call you out on it. That's what free speech means.

If you don't want to be accused of saying racist, homophobic or sexist things, don't say racist, homophobic and sexist things. At the very least don't complain because you've been given enough rope to hang yourselves.


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Left Wing Ideals Are On Display in US of A, and Their SELF-DESTRUCTION is Evident and Continuing.

A Truly Disgusting Bunch of People.

Makes Me Cry Like a Baby Yap

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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