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Message 1823102 - Posted: 10 Oct 2016, 0:12:00 UTC - in response to Message 1823094.  

Obviously you've made your opinion without thinking about it or bothering to understand our Bill of Rights.
Republicans support their selected few parts of the Bill of Rights.
Democrates support their selected few parts of the Bill of Rights.
Libertarians support all Ten Ammendments in the Bill of Rights.
Libertarians believe in the opposite of Authoritarian politics.
They also believe in using reason and thoughtful discussion to govern.
Whereas it seems you would rather us in the US to have a government dictated by half truths and twisted media stories.
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Message 1823113 - Posted: 10 Oct 2016, 0:59:09 UTC - in response to Message 1823094.  
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Es I disagree, libertarians are just totally simplistic in a complex world.
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Message 1823114 - Posted: 10 Oct 2016, 0:59:43 UTC - in response to Message 1823102.  

Obviously you've made your opinion without thinking about it or bothering to understand our Bill of Rights.
Republicans support their selected few parts of the Bill of Rights.
Democrates support their selected few parts of the Bill of Rights.
Libertarians support all Ten Ammendments in the Bill of Rights.
Libertarians believe in the opposite of Authoritarian politics.
They also believe in using reason and thoughtful discussion to govern.
Whereas it seems you would rather us in the US to have a government dictated by half truths and twisted media stories.

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Message 1823115 - Posted: 10 Oct 2016, 1:00:47 UTC - in response to Message 1823114.  

Obviously you've made your opinion without thinking about it or bothering to understand our Bill of Rights.
Republicans support their selected few parts of the Bill of Rights.
Democrates support their selected few parts of the Bill of Rights.
Libertarians support all Ten Ammendments in the Bill of Rights.
Libertarians believe in the opposite of Authoritarian politics.
They also believe in using reason and thoughtful discussion to govern.
Whereas it seems you would rather us in the US to have a government dictated by half truths and twisted media stories.

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Message 1823122 - Posted: 10 Oct 2016, 1:27:56 UTC - in response to Message 1823113.  

Libertarians in the USA don't have right or left wings.

No they are just psychopaths, they only love themselves.


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Message 1823125 - Posted: 10 Oct 2016, 1:40:14 UTC - in response to Message 1823122.  

Libertarians in the USA don't have right or left wings.

No they are just psychopaths, they only love themselves.


Psychopathy sometimes also known as sociopathy, is traditionally defined as a personality disorder[1] characterized by persistent antisocial behavior, impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, egotistical traits. Different conceptions of psychopathy have been used throughout history that are only partly overlapping and sometimes appear contradictory.[2]

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Is that better than deplorable? ;)
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Message 1823180 - Posted: 10 Oct 2016, 4:53:35 UTC - in response to Message 1823125.  

Libertarians in the USA don't have right or left wings.

No they are just psychopaths, they only love themselves.


Psychopathy sometimes also known as sociopathy, is traditionally defined as a personality disorder[1] characterized by persistent antisocial behavior, impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, egotistical traits. Different conceptions of psychopathy have been used throughout history that are only partly overlapping and sometimes appear contradictory.[2]

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Is that better than deplorable? ;)

It means the same doesn't it? And no interpretation of them should have a place in a modern society.

Oh that's right, some of yous just hate the word "modern" don't yous as it shows that yous have no control over it. LOL

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Message 1823181 - Posted: 10 Oct 2016, 5:01:25 UTC - in response to Message 1823180.  

Maybe better than you think. ;)

Modernity

Modernity is a term of art used in the humanities and social sciences to designate both a historical period (the modern era), as well as the ensemble of particular socio-cultural norms, attitudes and practices that arose in post-medieval Europe and have developed since, in various ways and at various times, around the world.

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Message 1823190 - Posted: 10 Oct 2016, 5:22:47 UTC - in response to Message 1823094.  

Edit: Wait...I think you're serious.

Aside from a Few Issues, Gary Johnson Is as Rabidly Right-Wing as You Could Possibly Imagine
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"I'm opposed to foreign aid completely,"

I thought you foreign types were opposed the the USA meddling in your countries. I'd have thought you would be celebrating that there is a candidate that wants to stop that insanity. Or do you really want the meddling?

I would like to see the income tax eliminated...which means abolishing the IRS,"

What is the problem? Do you think that means the government workers won't be paid? Perhaps there won't be any government workers meddling in your life? There it is again "meddling," is that what you crave?

"How did you arrive at [a minimum amount]?" Johnson asked, while explaining his belief that any assigned number would be arbitrary.

Yes arbitrary. How can any round number be anything else? And by the end of any period of time inflation will have moved any measuring method you can devise. End inflation = national debt and then you might be able to have a number that isn't arbitrary.

Marijuana gets dismissed. How about the hard drugs then? How about LGBTQ rights? How about freedom from worship? How about freedom to worship extremely unpopular religions? How about abortion rights? How about civil rights? How about being able to buy sex toys? How about the right to vote? Name any left wing position where the government should not meddle and that is libertarian. That is a much longer list. So they must be rabid left wing!

But you call right wing the identical don't meddle position where it comes to the pocket book. I guess you believe that people should not have the freedom of choice as to how they spend their money. If they don't have that freedom then they can't have any of the left wing wanted freedoms either as the government controls the only method they have to exercise them, money.

So I'm to conclude both the left and the right want the identical thing, totalitarian government control, just imposed in different ways.

The reality is libertarians are orthogonal to your left right scale and are close to dead center on your scale, but orthogonal a good distance away from the totalitarianism you apparently crave.
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Message 1823194 - Posted: 10 Oct 2016, 5:36:09 UTC - in response to Message 1823190.  

I thought you foreign types were opposed the the USA meddling in your countries. I'd have thought you would be celebrating that there is a candidate that wants to stop that insanity. Or do you really want the meddling?


My good friend, do you have any idea how nice it is to have your next door neighbor pay for your national defense program from the time of WW 2. We have to only put up with J. R. Ewing, and your very funny politicians. We, just like the French, English, German, Japanese, and many others, have made so much money from our 'friends ship', how could we refuse. I like it when people
point out our short comings, it helps us grow.


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Message 1823196 - Posted: 10 Oct 2016, 5:40:07 UTC - in response to Message 1823190.  

End inflation = national debt and then you might be able to have a number that isn't arbitrary.

Ding ding we have a winner. ;)
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Message 1824328 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 23:01:23 UTC - in response to Message 1821820.  

I would have liked to hear what Bill Weld would have said.
I have a feeling it would have been alot more interesting than the half-truths I heard tonight.
Too bad this is what the media and the voters get to hear instead of reason and truth.

That Cain guy really blew it. What an Clinton A$$ kisser apologist... My opinion.
Pence had very little to add to what we already know about Trump.
Bill Weld would have said plenty about the issues they stepped around.


Gordon acknowledged it was a SHOW.
Does how they said things matter? Yes, some.
KAINE's demeanor sucked. No kidding.How much did any of you pay attention to what was really said, POLICY wise?
Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
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Message 1824330 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 23:03:35 UTC - in response to Message 1822082.  

Bill Weld had this to say about the second farce of a VP "debate".

"Wish I had been there. Unfortunately, there was a gaping ideological void left between two candidates representing polarizing tickets.

While unconvincing to those of us who have heard it before from Republicans, Gov. Pence presented a bit more fiscal restraint. But, he enthusiastically embraced a social agenda that makes most Americans uncomfortable.

Senator Kaine, on the other hand, rightly rejected the Trump social and immigration extremes, but is saddled with Ms. Clinton’s spending and tax plans.

That left tens of millions of nonpartisan Americans without a comfortable voice on the stage, a voice they would otherwise hear, and have, if the debates were not limited to the partisan extremes."


Johnson and Weld have records.
They'd be more fiscally conservative (draconian?) and provide a wink and a nod to civil liberties.
Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
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