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Message 1848546 - Posted: 13 Feb 2017, 18:58:36 UTC

THE PLAN TO FIX

Water officials said no repair work was done Sunday on the eroded emergency spillway. Crews are waiting until first thing Monday morning to get a clear view of the damage and start filling the erosion scar.

Croyle said officials will be able to assess the damage to the emergency spillway now that the water is no longer spilling over the top.

Crews plan to use helicopters to drop rocks into hole on the emergency spillway to prevent possible collapse. Cal Fire said engines, helicopters and bulldozers from across the state are headed to Oroville to help.

Crews were filling containers with rocks Sunday night. Then first thing Monday morning, helicopters will drop the packages into the erosion scar in the emergency spillway -- and hopefully, fortify the weir.

DWR officials also hope to reduce the water level by another 50 feet in order to take pressure off the emergency spillway. The level needs to be below the level of emergency spillway in case their is a boil in the weir that is allowing water to leak into the gouge.

As of midnight, Lake Oroville's water level was at 899.7 feet -- lake capacity is at 901 feet -- decreasing by 5 inches within a n hour.

"The lower (the water level) gets, the less pressure (on the spillway) there will be," KCRA meteorologist Mark Finan said.

DWR officials also increased water releases from the main spillway, which can handle water flows up to 250,000 cfs, to 100,000 cfs.

DWR said the increased flows will further damage the main spillway, but it the only outlet for the water to leave the lake quickly.

According to Finan, if the inflows and outflows stay the same, the lake's water level would drop 20 feet within 36 hours.

http://www.kcra.com/article/evacuation-orders-issued-for-low-levels-of-oroville/8735215
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Message 1848547 - Posted: 13 Feb 2017, 19:01:14 UTC - in response to Message 1848545.  

The Dam was completed in 1978, and I am sure fully complied with all the relevant safety standards prevalent at the time. Fast forward nearly 50 years to the 21st Century, and it is reasonable to query whether it would pass muster today. Once the immediate emergency is over, serious questions need to be asked, and if found necessary, remedial and modernisation work should be funded to be carried out.


From what I've read, that is 1968, not 1978, at least according to the wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oroville_Dam


Since its completion in 1968, the Oroville Dam has allocated the flow of the Feather River from the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta into the State Water Project's California Aqueduct, which provides a major supply of water for irrigation in the San Joaquin Valley as well as municipal and industrial water supplies to coastal Southern California, and has prevented large amounts of flood damage to the area – more than $1.3 billion between the years of 1987 and 1999.

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Message 1848585 - Posted: 14 Feb 2017, 1:19:26 UTC

The family, but probably his daughter, wrote an obituary saying what they really thought about Leslie Ray Charping, of Galveston, Texas.
'Relieved' family publishes honest obituary for 'evil' Texas man
“Leslie was surprisingly intelligent, however he lacked ambition and motivation to do anything more than being reckless, wasteful, squandering the family savings and fantasizing about get rich quick schemes,”

"Leslie's hobbies included being abusive to his family, expediting trips to heaven for the beloved family pets, and fishing, which he was less skilled with than the previously mentioned. Leslie's life served no other obvious purpose, he did not contribute to society or serve his community and he possessed no redeeming qualities besides quick [witted] sarcasm, which was amusing during his sober days.

With Leslie's passing he will be missed only for what he never did; being a loving husband, father and good friend. No services will be held, there will be no prayers for eternal peace and no apologizes to the family he tortured. Leslie's remains will be cremated and kept in the barn until "Ray", the family donkey's wood shavings run out. Leslie's passing proves that evil does in fact die and hopefully marks a time of healing and safety for all."

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Message 1848632 - Posted: 14 Feb 2017, 10:20:55 UTC - in response to Message 1848630.  

From what I've read, that is 1968, not 1978, at least according to the wikipedia.

You are correct Vic that was my typo, thank you for pointing it out.

DWR officials also increased water releases from the main spillway, which can handle water flows up to 250,000 cfs, to 100,000 cfs.

DWR said the increased flows will further damage the main spillway, but it the only outlet for the water to leave the lake quickly.

A typical case of damned if you do, and damned if you don't!

(bad pun intended)

So far the upper part of the main spillway has hung together, seems $200 million is needed for repairs and for paving & repairing the emergency spillway.

50' is all they think they need to weather the next storm, batten down the hatches, we're in for a ride.

(pun not intended, good or bad)
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Message 1848649 - Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 0:01:13 UTC - in response to Message 1848636.  
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So far the upper part of the main spillway has hung together, seems $200 million is needed for repairs and for paving & repairing the emergency spillway.
Well I can't see Mr trump offering to pay, so it looks like California taxes will have to cough up.

If I had designed that dam, the tallest in the USA, even surpassing the Hoover dam, I would have had two main spillways one each side, and two emergency spillways, and bigger and better than the one they have now.

But I have no doubt that the water authorities will say, it's the first time in 50 years, what is all the fuss about? The fact that they were found wanting will be politically brushed aside.

I think the report from 12 years ago that this would happen isn't going to be able to be brushed aside. If anyone from then still has a job, they don't anymore.
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Message 1848655 - Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 0:27:13 UTC

I was going to use My Canon 9950F flatbed scanner, found out My scanner won't scan, gave Me an error of 2,175,0, turns out My "6' usb a b cable" has gone bad, so until the new cable arrives, the scanner is out of action.

The driver finds the scanner and all, but I get that error, I was able to scan once, in between a bunch of 2,175,0 errors, so yeah My cable is worn out.

Very frustrating.

Since a tech at Canon had Me going in circles.

Needless to say $3.45 later and a new cable is ordered.
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Message 1848690 - Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 2:27:09 UTC - in response to Message 1848655.  

My "6' usb a b cable" has gone bad


That's the first time I've ever heard of a cable wearing out.
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Message 1848693 - Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 2:40:42 UTC - in response to Message 1848690.  

My "6' usb a-b cable" has gone bad


That's the first time I've ever heard of a cable wearing out.

I've had several go bad, I've replaced My camera cable several times, this is the 1st time for My Canon 9950F flatbed scanner, this is a cable that plugs into usb port on the back of the motherboard at the back of My PC.

I've almost never had any internal cables go bad, but this is an external usb cable, they get bent a lot when they are moved around to charge a smart phone or to upload pics, one of these days I'll need a new usb-par printer cable, but not today.

I used to have replace mice when their cables would go bad, today My mouse is wireless, I just recharge the batteries.
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Message 1848694 - Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 2:43:58 UTC - in response to Message 1848693.  

I knew which cable you were talking about, but that's still a first for me. I guess if you do flex them around enough, they could have some wear and tear.

I once helped a friend install fiber optic cable in a factory, and he told me to be very careful not to kink it!
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Message 1848697 - Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 2:53:11 UTC - in response to Message 1848694.  

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Message 1848699 - Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 3:04:55 UTC - in response to Message 1848697.  

Sorry. :(


Don't be sorry. I didn't mean any negativity. You just taught me to be extra careful when I vacuum behind my computer stuff, now. ;~)
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Message 1848701 - Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 3:16:10 UTC - in response to Message 1848699.  

Sorry. :(


Don't be sorry. I didn't mean any negativity. You just taught me to be extra careful when I vacuum behind my computer stuff, now. ;~)

Yeah, the cable being broken, means My copy machine is broke.

So no copying My ID's or the latest rent bill, so that I can get an Liheap check.

At least the application came in a reusable manila envelope, the envelope was free.
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Message 1848702 - Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 3:20:04 UTC - in response to Message 1848701.  

Yeah, the cable being broken, means My copy machine is broke.


I understand. We use our scanner all the time. It's a great invention.
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Message 1848704 - Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 3:24:27 UTC

you could probably scan with your phone
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Message 1848706 - Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 3:25:06 UTC - in response to Message 1848704.  

you could probably scan with your phone


LOL, not my dumb phone.
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Message 1848707 - Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 3:27:42 UTC - in response to Message 1848704.  

you could probably scan with your phone

But not print it out correctly, which is what is required.
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Message 1848708 - Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 3:28:22 UTC
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tRump has declared the Oroville dam to be a Federal Disaster area, so Federal funds can be released promptly, and the water level is at 887', still 37' higher than what is desired, hopefully the water will be down to or lower than 850' by Friday.

Oh and the evacuation order has been rescinded.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/14/us/california-oroville-dam-spillway-failure/index.html
"We are feeling positive," said Al Duncan, spokesman for the response team.
Janssen said the lake level has been dropping about a foot every three hours -- and that rate could improve.
"Lakes are shaped like funnels, so we could see the water level start to drop faster," he said.

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Message 1848712 - Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 3:37:38 UTC - in response to Message 1848693.  

My "6' usb a-b cable" has gone bad


That's the first time I've ever heard of a cable wearing out.

I've had several go bad, I've replaced My camera cable several times, this is the 1st time for My Canon 9950F flatbed scanner, this is a cable that plugs into usb port on the back of the motherboard at the back of My PC.

I've almost never had any internal cables go bad, but this is an external usb cable, they get bent a lot when they are moved around to charge a smart phone or to upload pics, one of these days I'll need a new usb-par printer cable, but not today.

I used to have replace mice when their cables would go bad, today My mouse is wireless, I just recharge the batteries.

To stop the need to keep unplugging and re-plugging in USB cables, get a USB hub. A powered one is best. NewEgg -USB hubs
Except for an external HDD, which has Windows 7, 8.1 and 10 and all the programs I use install files and all drivers on, which I plug into the front USB socket of appropriate recalcitrant computer when needed, I cannot remember the last time I had to fight the knotted cables at back of a computer.
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Message 1848717 - Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 3:42:53 UTC - in response to Message 1848712.  

My "6' usb a-b cable" has gone bad


That's the first time I've ever heard of a cable wearing out.

I've had several go bad, I've replaced My camera cable several times, this is the 1st time for My Canon 9950F flatbed scanner, this is a cable that plugs into usb port on the back of the motherboard at the back of My PC.

I've almost never had any internal cables go bad, but this is an external usb cable, they get bent a lot when they are moved around to charge a smart phone or to upload pics, one of these days I'll need a new usb-par printer cable, but not today.

I used to have replace mice when their cables would go bad, today My mouse is wireless, I just recharge the batteries.

To stop the need to keep unplugging and re-plugging in USB cables, get a USB hub. A powered one is best. NewEgg -USB hubs
Except for an external HDD, which has Windows 7, 8.1 and 10 and all the programs I use install files and all drivers on, which I plug into the front USB socket of appropriate recalcitrant computer when needed, I cannot remember the last time I had to fight the knotted cables at back of a computer.

My current desk is a bit crowded, so no hub, I've got 3 or so empty ports back there.

But then the motherboard is an X79 ASUS Rampage IV Extreme.
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Message 1848719 - Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 3:48:27 UTC

I usually find that cables fail 99.95% of the time because some people keep wanting to pull them out by the cable and not the socket section itself.

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