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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
There's a time & place for everything. Sports Arenas & Movie theatres are there to provide entertainment for the crowds/audience. If they want to spout political bovine excrement, then they should use the Jeremy Kyle Show, Opfrah Show, social media or political conventions. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Just so you know Glenn that wiki page says it was bought not given. Gary where do you think the Land council get there money from to buy the Land at Redfern......?? Umm I would not be the federal Gov would it . So if the federal gov gives them millions and they then buy the Land off the state gov that is the Governments giving the land back . Only if the Land council had to raise the money them self's would they actually be buying the land . It's called paperwork witch has to be filled out and lodged with the right gov dept to make it all legal . |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
There's a time & place for everything. AS ENTERTAINMENT. there is NO connection to NATION. Such so-called connections are only now perceived as connections due to the weight of tradition. If ANYTHING, at football games, they should pledge the flag of the state a team is from and sing its state's anthem. That's all it is: fake wars between teams from major states or major cities. Seeing the pictures of the fallen and connecting it to sports is an absolute and complete disgrace to their memories. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Seeing the pictures of the fallen and connecting it to sports is an absolute and complete disgrace to their memories. Sarge I disagree this picture says there is. http://i.imgur.com/8S5zkBh.jpg |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
There's a time & place for everything. My view is that we are the freest nation on Earth, and we should protect all forms of expression, including the right to protest. Much in the same way that burning the U.S. Flag doesn't have to mean desecration or disrespect, but that no symbol is held in higher regard than our freedom of speech (expression). While everyone may have different beliefs on the subject, including those that served our great nation, I would think ultimately that is what was fought for; so we can have that freedom of expression. We should celebrate the fact that we can rather than castigate those who do, even if we disagree. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Seeing the pictures of the fallen and connecting it to sports is an absolute and complete disgrace to their memories. How? Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
That vet has fallen and this country has failed to figure out how to ameliorate that all to frequent situation. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
How? sarge I am surprised a educated man as you didn't get it A vet that is homeless and has to beg for food !!!! Is that what he fought for ! , I think not Some times the only way to bring a problem to the front of every ones attention is to do a protest at a sporting game and putting a fist up is probably the least and most passive way to protest . Unlike what has happened here with not only players but fans . At one game a very big banner was unfolded and that did get a lot of publicity and you can't do that now because the NRL has banned any protests that may disrupt the game . |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
I really think you two need to read what I said again. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
I did reread your post and I disagree there is a connection. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
I did reread your post and I disagree there is a connection. So, you agree there is no connection? The lack of the comma suggests this. If otherwise, you have not given sufficient reason. Ozz's post is a good reference. Another is: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/garcia-time-put-national-anthem-sporting-events-article-1.2647068. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
My view is that we are the freest nation on Earth, Good, I salute you. I also request that you check again on the freedom thingy, Freedom comes in many shapes and flavours. I could go into the definitions stuff, but I believe we all know where we stand on such things. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Seeing the pictures of the fallen and connecting it to sports is an absolute and complete disgrace to their memories. Incorrect. They fell to preserve freedom. That athlete & your statement dishonours that! Yes, that athlete had the freedom to do what he did, but he did it in the wrong manner & the wrong place. Those fallen also fell to give me that same freedom & I'm saying you're wrong. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Seeing the pictures of the fallen and connecting it to sports is an absolute and complete disgrace to their memories. B***s***. Read the article I linked, for one. Two, how much do you want to bet few to one no one's thinking of the country or the military when they stand and sing the anthem. Just like not thinking about God when reciting/singing liturgy/hymns (particularly if in Latin, not understood). Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
My view is that we are the freest nation on Earth, Good, I salute you. I also request that you check again on Good one celttooth . Nice to see I'm not the only one that understands freedom . It seems the old colony's of the Empire shear the same thoughts on freedom We achieved Independence not through war but negotiation maybe that's where America went wrong all them years ago . They acted like little children whom spat the dummy because there parents told them NO you can't do that or have that so like children do they chucked a tantrum. And now it's all backfiring on them :-) |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
The lack of the comma suggests this. Ah the grammar police step in. Ozz's post is a good reference. That affirms my statement. |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
I am much less concerned about their last revolution than I am about the next one. Like how soon, and how verbose it may be. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Seeing the pictures of the fallen and connecting it to sports is an absolute and complete disgrace to their memories. So they fell to give you the freedom of speech while at the same time to quell the freedom of others - Is that what Yanks really think? Are they really full of bovine excrement? BTW I've often attended sports stadiums & want to watch the game - not some greedy overpaid wally woofer making politic statements. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
My view is that we are the freest nation on Earth Good for you:) |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
I am much less concerned about their last revolution than I am Well Trump solved that problem for you Build the wall and send the bill to Trump and then they can go for it against each other and you lot can make and sell the weapons they will need to kill each other off and them you can move in take over as they won't be any Americans left :-) So relax friend and watch the show |
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