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Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
If you are paranoid about "Big Brother" watching and eventually controlling your life you probably shouldn't watch this episode of "Through the Wormhole". It may just scare you into cancelling your Facebook account. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
What's a facebook? ;) |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
I watched that episode tonight. Yeah sing up for twitter and face book and all that other crap. I don't need it, And don't want it. However, This is a community board for Seti@Home. So who knows who is spying on us? [/quote] Old James |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
I am spying on you! Do something! edit: Like any one cares what we say to each other eh?... |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Twitter is one thing but FaceBook .Instagram ,MeeBo and even Pokiemon Go all spy on you even Google so even a Tin Hat wont protect you Hell how many off you have turned your GPS off on your Mobile Phone ? or the Wi-Fi or Bluetooth .. Cops now use the Pings of your Mobile Phone to see where you where at the time of a crime .......Hence Country's now saving Meta Data for 2 years from your Mobile Phone . Lesson there is Don't carry your personal Mobile if your going to do something naughty And don't have the GPS turned on for god sake get a proper GPS so you can't be tracked |
bluestar Send message Joined: 5 Sep 12 Posts: 6995 Credit: 2,084,789 RAC: 3 |
Oh James. You are waiving the U.S. flag above the house together with another one which I do not recognize. During two World Wars, the United States was subject to a given threat by different adversories around. One should therefore assume that your country is being inhabited by fragile people, including those red haired ones. Always with the exception of the big, fat goons, who think they could be doing their country a favor of sorts. If you happen to look at the picture from the Vietnam war that was censored by Facebook, this is because there always happen to be a battle between good verus evil and because of that the forces of good most likely had a good excuse at what they were supposed to be doing. Should a place like Facebook belong to those people who happen to be animal cruelty lovers, or maybe fond of either child or even animal pornography or indecency? Where is possible censorship supposed to be? Does the Tor network censor its contents or users any better than Facebook because the latter is supposed to be about possible stupid or naive users? If I for some reason could upload the famous picture from the Vietnam war right here, I would perhaps put a dark square above the point of interest. However, if doing such a thing, I would next make a specific reference to history as it happened to be. Most likely true, but this picture would most likely not be allowed here, because it does not relate to those things we are supposed to be doing. |
qbit Send message Joined: 19 Sep 04 Posts: 630 Credit: 6,868,528 RAC: 0 |
Twitter is one thing but FaceBook .Instagram ,MeeBo and even Pokiemon Go all spy on you even Google so even a Tin Hat wont protect you Yeah, FB, Google, Niantic (makers of Pokémon Go), they all "spy" on you by collecting data. But keep in mind that all those services are free and that's the way they make money. It's everybody's own decision to use them or not and what kind of data he shares there. Turning off GPS on your mobile when you don't need it is always a good idea. If you don't some companies will have very nice location/time diagrams stored of you. Also, it will improve battery life a lot. But if you somehow end up on the watch list of some of the agencies then it's best to throw your phone into water. Turning off anything won't help anymore, they can remotly turn on your GPS, your camera, your mic. Even when your phone is off! Scary, huh? |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
Any criminal that still uses any form of cell phone or gaming pad that connects to the internet is asking to get caught. Such a criminal can only hope that his or her crimes are considered so insignificant that the watchers don't raise a flag over them and begin specific intelligence on their actions. Making a cell call to secure a bag of pot is most likely not going to trigger an alarm and send local law enforcement out to nab you. But if you are planning to bring several hundred kilos of Columbian cocaine across the border into your country and still use gps or cell phones to communicate your plans then watch out. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Does the Tor network censor its contents or users any better than Facebook No there is no censorship with the "Onion" network , "Tor" is the browser .approx. 75% of the internet is not accessible because of Laws or censorship. And yes Facebook users are naïve . I don't use it myself bluestar be careful using the "Onion " network if you are not a experienced user be very careful what and where you go on the "Dark net" as the "onion" network is also known |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
qbit I have never herd of anybody turning a phone on if it has been shut down . yes they can turn on the GPS remotely but only if the phone is on . But if you turn off the phone Data and GPS and don't run certain apps that let Google (Android ) remotely connect to you they can't do anything and that also means ping the phone to see where you are buy triangulation of the 3 closest phone towers . Now as for the Iphone well , I don't and won't ever use one Most off the data mining to catch people doing the wrong thing comes from word lists . So unless you use words like bomb , gun , attack , explosives you wont bring unwanted attention to yourself hello NSA seeing as I just set off there low level alert using the words I just did . |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
qbit I have never herd of anybody turning a phone on if it has been shut down . A smartphone is only off if the battery is removed. Otherwise it is "asleep" or turned on just working very slow, ignoring most but not all inputs. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
qbit I have never herd of anybody turning a phone on if it has been shut down . I think that depends on what phone you have Gary mine does actually shutdown and power off completely. And if you do disable the phone data they can't do jack to your phone and no it's not a I-phone or a fancy smart phone like a Samsung . But it is a smart phone just the same . Sometimes older tech is better |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
qbit I have never herd of anybody turning a phone on if it has been shut down . Unless it is a toggle switch it just goes into a sleep state. Just like a DVD player that waits for the remote to wake it, some part of it is on. Most smart phones have a stolen phone mode, if it does then the phone company can wake it up and wipe data and get the GPS location for the police. If you can wipe data then you have enough access to implant a virus, turn on the mic, take pictures or whatever other havoc you want to do. Would the phone company do that? Given an NSL yes they would. Could a government spy agency, they are doing it. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Yes that may be correct with the latest phone but I did say it depends on your phone and how fancy it is . No toggle switch on my phone but it does shutdown you can't activate a stolen what ever on it not fancy enough for that it doesn't even have a flash for the camera . Cheap but it does what I want allow me to answer a call anything else I'm not interested in . :-) |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Glenn, are you SURE that they can't turn on the camera without your knowledge? Case in point: Granted it is laptops, but pretty much the same principle... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbins_v._Lower_Merion_School_District The lawsuit was filed after 15-year-old high school sophomore (second year student) Blake Robbins was disciplined at school, for his behavior in his home.[6][14] The school based its decision to discipline Robbins on a photograph that had been secretly taken of him in his bedroom, via the webcam in his school-issued laptop. Without telling its students, the schools remotely accessed their school-issued laptops to secretly snap pictures of students in their own homes, their chat logs, and records of the websites they visited. The school then transmitted the snapshots to servers at the school, where school authorities reviewed them and shared the snapshots with others.[15] In one widely published photo, the school had photographed Robbins in his bed.[16] The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), U.S. Attorney's Office, and Montgomery County District Attorney all initiated criminal investigations of the matter, which they combined and then closed because they did not find evidence "that would establish beyond a reasonable doubt that anyone involved had criminal intent". In addition, a U.S. Senate Judiciary subcommittee held hearings on the issues raised by the schools' secret surveillance, and Senator Arlen Specter introduced draft legislation in the Senate to protect against it in the future. Parents, media, and academics criticized the schools, and the matter was cited as a cautionary example of how modern technology can be used to infringe on personal privacy.[17] You want to be sure your phone is OFF? Take out the batteries and lock it in a Faraday cage inside a deep-freezer. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
You want to be sure your phone is OFF? Take out the batteries and lock it in a Faraday cage inside a deep-freezer. I did the next best thing the other day ....Dropped it into a can of paint . I cleaned it but lets say it works but it 's playing up when i call someone . |
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