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what is better GPU Wise?
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Fullsus Send message Joined: 7 Apr 08 Posts: 32 Credit: 2,737,590 RAC: 0 |
Hi all, I was going to spend some cash on a GPU and was looking at the NVIDA GTX-980. But then when looking at the price and noticed I could pick up 2x GTX-970s for roughly the same money. This purely purely for Number Crunching, I don't play games. I only have an Xeon X3430 4 core/thread system at the moment. I want to upgrade my GPU before I start replacing my Server. I sold my 650Ti about 6 months ago and used to run 3 threads on this no bother. 2 x 970 GPUs will be more CUDA Cores but then I am restricted as far as trying to fit in a third card down the line until I replace my Server. So what do you think would be better, 2 GPUs or 1?? cheers
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Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
2 cards are always better than 1 , lol Keep an eye on prices, as more 10x0s make their appearance, the prices on the 900s series should continue to drop |
Fullsus Send message Joined: 7 Apr 08 Posts: 32 Credit: 2,737,590 RAC: 0 |
That's what I was thinking, should I be trying to pick up Ti versions of them? Do the have a bit more Grunt?
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Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
If you can pick up the Ti reasonably then yes |
Fullsus Send message Joined: 7 Apr 08 Posts: 32 Credit: 2,737,590 RAC: 0 |
As far as cost, I can't believe how much they have dropped in price. That is the only reason I was going for the 970 or the 980! I could never have considered them a year ago! ;-)
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Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
Yes, I was going to buy some 980Ti hybrids but the 1070s FTW were the same price. So it comes down to price, speed, heat generation. Unfortunately the temps on the 1070 are high when put 1 next to the other. But if spread out with PCI gaps between them, then they would run much cooler. In my case, i ended up having to put a large circular fans blowing air across the top of them to keep them cool. |
Shaggie76 Send message Joined: 9 Oct 09 Posts: 282 Credit: 271,858,118 RAC: 196 |
Some horse-guy collected data from hundreds of users and graphed the results. You might find it helpful. |
Fullsus Send message Joined: 7 Apr 08 Posts: 32 Credit: 2,737,590 RAC: 0 |
Hey, really good diagram. Very handy:-)
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AMDave Send message Joined: 9 Mar 01 Posts: 234 Credit: 11,671,730 RAC: 0 |
Remmember, it's not just upfront cost to consider, but also 'cost of ownership', which includes power consumption.
>  GTX 980,   165W TDP, $350+ >  GTX 980 Ti, 250W TDP, $400+ Another option to consider is the new Gen Pascal, specifically the 1060 (120W TDP, $250+).  Take a look at this review.  It has a chart comparing all these cards.
Two of these cards would cost slightly more than a single 980 Ti, but draw less power than one 980 Ti. |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
Fullsus, Keep an eye on how much RAM each GPU has. More on that later. Zalster |
bluestar Send message Joined: 5 Sep 12 Posts: 7031 Credit: 2,084,789 RAC: 3 |
Possibly having two graphics cards rather than one does not necessarily make for twice or double result output when it comes to grand totals. Not totally sure, but I had both cards installed earlier on before pulling one for a Sound Blaster sound card. My best guess only and even though the use of a FireWire connection between the cards typically is of no benefit when it comes to this project, it probably does not matter or benefit anything when it comes to the rest. |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34258 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Running multiple GPU`s is not always efficient. I prefer running just one or two high end cards and push them to the max. But it always depends on the host itself. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
AMDave Send message Joined: 9 Mar 01 Posts: 234 Credit: 11,671,730 RAC: 0 |
Keep an eye on how much RAM each GPU has. Right, the 1060 is available in 6GB & 3GB flavors.
3GB is $200+ Running multiple GPU`s is not always efficient. Interesting, because Shaggie notices better performance on his high end Maxwell (980 I think) when running single instances (with Anon. Platform). But it always depends on the host itself. And there you have it.  There are no rules written in stone, only guidelines.  So, what it boils down to is research, research, research. |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34258 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Keep an eye on how much RAM each GPU has. There are some rules. Modern GPU`s you also need a modern CPU. It doesn`t make any sense to put 4 moddern GPU`s like a 1070 or 1080 in a quad core CPU host because the CPU can`t feed the GPU`s properly. In this case it would make more sense to add only one or 2 GPU`s and run less instances faster. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
spitfire_mk_2 Send message Joined: 14 Apr 00 Posts: 563 Credit: 27,306,885 RAC: 0 |
Since your last card was 650, I would say you need to add cost of power supply to the cost of the cards. I don't know off hand what a psu for two 980 would cost. 100 usd? 150 usd? |
Fullsus Send message Joined: 7 Apr 08 Posts: 32 Credit: 2,737,590 RAC: 0 |
Hi, Sorry for not getting back again looking at the 1060 or 1070,do you think the 1070 is worth the extra cost, although I would only be able to buy 1 at that price. Also, I always bought asus or Gigabyte cards, do you know the warranty on these cars and which brand is more reliable? That is a lot of Power for some of these cards. so running 2 won't be possible for me anyway until I upgrade my server. I was planning on upgrading my Server something like a 10core(20) XEON with a large PSU, so would have tons off overhead there. I'm sure Multiple GPUs will defiantly be a bonus, it's probably trying to set them up right that might be causing some people issues. cheers, Steven |
petri33 Send message Joined: 6 Jun 02 Posts: 1668 Credit: 623,086,772 RAC: 156 |
Hi, to add another view more I'd consider the power draw. The 10x0 series is much much less power hungry. With the new generation of software coming I'd look at (max) power draw and the number of compute units. 980 has 16 CU. 1080 has 20 CU. Some titans and Ti's have over 20. With current sw they are not utilized at parts of the code at all but one. With the coming special SW they are going to be used to the max. The horsemans graphs will definitely look as nice as they do now, but the order of cards will change. To overcome Heisenbergs: "You can't always get what you want / but if you try sometimes you just might find / you get what you need." -- Rolling Stones |
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