I'd like to see it, but I'll wait for the DVD to come out.

Me too...well, at least Blu-ray. No, I won't be able to wait, since it will hit iTunes/VUDU first!

At the con there are rabid fans for each of the series, for instance, and I don't always share their enthusiasm. In part it may be which series they were first introduced to Star Trek.

That's a very good point. In my case, while the original Star Trek was my introduction, SNG came along at the right time to re-ignite my interest, and I loved it as much so, but in a different way, than the original. With SNG's wrap-up, it sort of closed the book for me.

I watched all of them as they aired. But I have ever gotten any of the DVDs/Blu-rays. The ones that I would want now are not available on Blu-ray.

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Out of the total of 28 TV seasons and 13 movies, I have seen everything but probably a few episodes of Voyager... and the animated series. I have never seen any of those.

I still say I really liked Beyond.

I have the animated series on DVD, some of the actors are missing, but after StarTrek was cancelled, some went elsewhere for work. Otherwise the animated series is good.

I have the animated box set too.

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Eric and I just made a "date" to see it on Sunday. I'm excited!!!

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Phaser fire, fireballs, free-falls...

Star Trek movies do not HAVE to be action movies.

I'm too old for movies like this.

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Phaser fire, fireballs, free-falls...

Star Trek movies do not HAVE to be action movies.

I'm too old for movies like this.

Was there ever a Star Trek movie or television episode where somebody did not fire a phaser?

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Probably yes. That Next Generation episode about the meta-morph was without phaser fire, if I recall correctly. The Next Generation episode about the culture whose linguistic system was based on metaphors (one of my "favs", of course, as a lover of language) was a great example of the extremely judicious use of violence.

Not sure about the original Star Trek... better experts here than me. Same deal for Deep Space 9 and Voyager and most of the movies.

Anyway, a little phaser fire, used in moderation, can be a good thing. Non-stop phaser fire, explosions and falls from which one could not possibly survive physically intact are completely beyond my ability to appreciate.

If I were 19, perhaps I would think Star Trek Beyond was a great movie.

At 53, I am simply too old for such nonsense.

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When I was a Kid some of My favorite shows were in no special order, looney
tunes, StarTrek and Batman, I'm one of 100 kids who got to see Burt Ward, in
costume as Robin('the Boy Wonder', the Joker called Him 'the Boy Blunder')
driving the Batmobile in the LA Memorial Coliseum, Us kids and an Adult chaperon
were at the 50 yard line, Robin drove from one corner of the field across the
grass to where We were and well He said We could ask Him questions about the
show, of course I didn't ask any, that's all that I remember of course.

The kids were there cause of a promotional contest, 100 were picked and I was one
of the Winners, My Dad asked Me if He should bring His Camera along, I knew He
liked cars, I said "Dad, the Batmobile is going to be there", I think He took
some slides, of course I don't have the color slides now(Kodachrome and
sometimes Ektachrome), they are at My sister in laws place, it's a long story.
We both watched the series, as We did for StarTrek, VTTBOTS(this series is scarier than any Alien movie), Bonanza, etc, etc, etc...

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Probably yes. That Next Generation episode about the meta-morph was without phaser fire, if I recall correctly. The Next Generation episode about the culture whose linguistic system was based on metaphors (one of my "favs", of course, as a lover of language) was a great example of the extremely judicious use of violence.

Not sure about the original Star Trek... better experts here than me. Same deal for Deep Space 9 and Voyager and most of the movies.

Anyway, a little phaser fire, used in moderation, can be a good thing. Non-stop phaser fire, explosions and falls from which one could not possibly survive physically intact are completely beyond my ability to appreciate.

If I were 19, perhaps I would think Star Trek Beyond was a great movie.

At 53, I am simply too old for such nonsense.

I admit the violence was a tad excessive. I was and remain enthused about the details, especially the extremely low-key one about Sulu.

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David
Sitting on my butt while others boldly go,
Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.

Probably yes. That Next Generation episode about the meta-morph was without phaser fire, if I recall correctly. The Next Generation episode about the culture whose linguistic system was based on metaphors (one of my "favs", of course, as a lover of language) was a great example of the extremely judicious use of violence.

"The river Tamok! Iiiinnn wiiinnnter!"

"Darmok ... and ... Jalaad ... at Tanagra?"

Not sure about the original Star Trek... better experts here than me. Same deal for Deep Space 9 and Voyager and most of the movies.

Anyway, a little phaser fire, used in moderation, can be a good thing. Non-stop phaser fire, explosions and falls from which one could not possibly survive physically intact are completely beyond my ability to appreciate.

If I were 19, perhaps I would think Star Trek Beyond was a great movie.

At 53, I am simply too old for such nonsense.

I think every movie, from Generations on, has disrespected the years worth of story telling (building story arcs lasting several episodes to seasons to other series) more and more and it has proportionally become more about stunning us visually.

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Both the original and STNG are great series to watch with my mother because they don't get bogged down in the over the top theatrics people are talking about with the newer Star Treks. My mother has some focus issues related to what I think is dementia, but the quiet serious tone of the original and STNG hold her attention, and she even asks me to turn it up because she's engaging with the dialogue and the characters.

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Probably yes. That Next Generation episode about the meta-morph was without phaser fire, if I recall correctly. The Next Generation episode about the culture whose linguistic system was based on metaphors (one of my "favs", of course, as a lover of language) was a great example of the extremely judicious use of violence.

"The river Tamok! Iiiinnn wiiinnnter!"

"Darmok ... and ... Jalaad ... at Tanagra?"

Riker fired at the Tamarian ship; it fired at Worf's shuttle.

Not sure about the original Star Trek... better experts here than me.

No phasers in "This side of Paradise."

Same deal for Deep Space 9 and Voyager and most of the movies.

Anyway, a little phaser fire, used in moderation, can be a good thing. Non-stop phaser fire, explosions and falls from which one could not possibly survive physically intact are completely beyond my ability to appreciate.

If I were 19, perhaps I would think Star Trek Beyond was a great movie.

At 53, I am simply too old for such nonsense.

I think every movie, from Generations on, has disrespected the years worth of story telling (building story arcs lasting several episodes to seasons to other series) more and more and it has proportionally become more about stunning us visually.

I can't agree with that in regard to the TNG movies. Generations, besides having Kirk, Scotty, Chekov, and Sulu's daughter... I forgot what I was going to say. First Contact brought back a character from TOS and Borg developments from Voyager, plus a cameo by the Defiant from DS9. Insurrection didn't weave in anything notable from the past (unless you count Riker and Troi finally getting back together), but I thought it was underappreciated, especially for its humor (Data to Worf: Have you noticed how your boobs are starting to firm up?). 10 I didn't like so much; the cameo by Janeway was completely gratuitous

Reboot 1 was more about being spectacular, although the joke about Admiral Archer's prized beagle was so subtle I didn't catch the reference until just recently. R2 also got its details right even as it went for spectacular.

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David
Sitting on my butt while others boldly go,
Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.

a little phaser fire,

But don't cowboy movies have shoot-outs?




edit:
Klingons are space bickers?

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I think every movie, from Generations on, has disrespected the years worth of story telling (building story arcs lasting several episodes to seasons to other series) more and more and it has proportionally become more about stunning us visually.

I can't agree with that in regard to the TNG movies. Generations, besides having Kirk, Scotty, Chekov, and Sulu's daughter... I forgot what I was going to say. First Contact brought back a character from TOS and Borg developments from Voyager, plus a cameo by the Defiant from DS9. Insurrection didn't weave in anything notable from the past (unless you count Riker and Troi finally getting back together), but I thought it was underappreciated, especially for its humor (Data to Worf: Have you noticed how your boobs are starting to firm up?). 10 I didn't like so much; the cameo by Janeway was completely gratuitous.

I question how deep the "nods" in "Generations" and "First Contact" were. Also, you and I may need to double check the Voyager episodes. Off hand, I suspect "First Contact" came out 1/2 to 1 year before the "Scorpion" episodes where Botager (first?) encountered the Borg.

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I think every movie, from Generations on, has disrespected the years worth of story telling (building story arcs lasting several episodes to seasons to other series) more and more and it has proportionally become more about stunning us visually.

I can't agree with that in regard to the TNG movies. Generations, besides having Kirk, Scotty, Chekov, and Sulu's daughter... I forgot what I was going to say. First Contact brought back a character from TOS and Borg developments from Voyager, plus a cameo by the Defiant from DS9. Insurrection didn't weave in anything notable from the past (unless you count Riker and Troi finally getting back together), but I thought it was underappreciated, especially for its humor (Data to Worf: Have you noticed how your boobs are starting to firm up?). 10 I didn't like so much; the cameo by Janeway was completely gratuitous.

I question how deep the "nods" in "Generations" and "First Contact" were. Also, you and I may need to double check the Voyager episodes. Off hand, I suspect "First Contact" came out 1/2 to 1 year before the "Scorpion" episodes where Botager (first?) encountered the Borg.

Scotty and Chekov's parts, while brief, were more than just cameo nods. Kirk, of course, had major scenes with Picard and stopped the bad guy, at the cost of his own life.

Zefram Cochrane had a whole episode about him, then got a complete makeover of both physical appearance and personality, even aged backwards, to be a major character in First Contact.

However, you seem to be right about the order in which the Borg Queen and spheres first appeared: FC first, Voyager soon after. Undoubtedly planned for a one-two punch by the high level producers, though, just as Spock's appearance on TNG was a promotion for VI. (Nimoy, producer of VI, justified doing the show at a salary it could afford as a promotional expense for the movie.)

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David
Sitting on my butt while others boldly go,
Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.

I realize this is about the "ST: Beyond", but has anyone seen the web-based series, "Star Trek Continues" (http://www.startrekcontinues.com/episodes.html)?
Only 6 episodes so far (7th one coming early next month), Based on TOS, same characters as TOS, just different actors portraying them. Todd Haberkorn, portraying Spock doesn't look anything even remotely like Nimoy, as did Zachary Quinto in the recent ST movies, but does a reasonably good job nonetheless.
Chris Pine, who portrays Kirk, also doesn't look (or sound) anything like William Shatner's Kirk (except in certain facial expressions and camera angles) and "Mythbusters'" Grant Imahara plays Sulu a bit "over the top" sometimes. However, for the role of LCDR Scott, they have Chris Doohan, son of the original "Mr. Scott", James Doohan.
The series is basically a "continuation" of various episodes from TOS; example:
In Episode 3, "Fairest of Them All", it's told from the Mirror Universe's ("Mirror Mirror") perspective of what happened after Kirk & Co. returned to their universe.
Some ST fans here may like it, others, not so much, but overall, it (seems) well-done and the scoring is (99%) as good as TOS.

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I realize this is about the "ST: Beyond", but has anyone seen the web-based series, "Star Trek Continues" (http://www.startrekcontinues.com/episodes.html)?
Only 6 episodes so far (7th one coming early next month), Based on TOS, same characters as TOS, just different actors portraying them. Todd Haberkorn, portraying Spock doesn't look anything even remotely like Nimoy, as did Zachary Quinto in the recent ST movies, but does a reasonably good job nonetheless.
Chris Pine, who portrays Kirk, also doesn't look (or sound) anything like William Shatner's Kirk (except in certain facial expressions and camera angles) and "Mythbusters'" Grant Imahara plays Sulu a bit "over the top" sometimes. However, for the role of LCDR Scott, they have Chris Doohan, son of the original "Mr. Scott", James Doohan.
The series is basically a "continuation" of various episodes from TOS; example:
In Episode 3, "Fairest of Them All", it's told from the Mirror Universe's ("Mirror Mirror") perspective of what happened after Kirk & Co. returned to their universe.
Some ST fans here may like it, others, not so much, but overall, it (seems) well-done and the scoring is (99%) as good as TOS.

Before Star Trek Continues; there was/is also Star Trek Phase II/New Voyages. I like the portrayal of the doctor better in New Voyages than in Continues. However; James Doohan's son does an excellent job as Scotty.


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Almost forgot: Marina Sirtis does the computer voice (vice the late Majel Barrett), and in the first episode, Michael Forrest reprises his role as Apollo; Lou Ferrigno even has a role in one of the episodes.

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Also, there is Starship Farragut on the Web, too. :-)


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TimeLord04
Have TARDIS, will travel...
Come along K-9!
Join Calm Chaos

Also, there is Starship Farragut on the Web, too. :-)


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I know. I've seen several of the fan-based ones out there; some are horrendously done, others are a bit better, some even come close to the quality of the original series (TOS, TNG, DS9, Voyager, etc.).

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Enjoyed "Fairest of them All". Now that is an example of taking an arc further.

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