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Message 1804826 - Posted: 25 Jul 2016, 15:07:39 UTC - in response to Message 1804758.  


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Those "Validation Inconclusives" and "Invalids" and even "Errors" are when using the OpenCL App...Not the CUDA Baseline App. The Baseline App at C.A. works perfectly Fine as far as I know. You Do have to Install the Correct driver, which for Mavericks and above means the latest driver found in System Preferences/CUDA. The only problems I know of are caused by people updating the OS and Not updating to the driver that supports the New OS. There are a few people out there that have run the Baseline Apps on Hackintoshes, even a couple that have run the Special App without any trouble. Yours is the only one I've seen give Invalids with the CUDA65 App, which is Why I suggest the CUDA75 App. You can always change the two lines in the app_info.xml back to the CUDA65 App if it isn't any better. It's very simple to copy and paste the App Name in the Two lines that list it. That's All that's required, replace one App name with the other in two lines.

In any case, I would suggest you update the CUDA driver to the latest available and see if the CUDA65 App works any better on your particular Hackintosh. There are other Hackintoshes running even the CUDA80 driver without any trouble.
Oh, just in case, You Must Quit any Apps using the CUDA Driver Before attempting to Update the Driver.

At last check, (been a few months since I've looked), the CUDA Driver from NVIDIA for MAC OS X was 7.5.26; this is what I'm on. I still encounter "Validation Inconclusives" and "Invalids" on CUDA65; but NOT as many as when I was stock on OpenCL. The one "Error" I still have showing is from a "Ghost" that was created when I switched from OpenCL to CUDA65 and my entire cache got wiped.


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Message 1804827 - Posted: 25 Jul 2016, 15:16:03 UTC - in response to Message 1804826.  

Take your current steady state inconclusives and divide by pendings. Inconclusives / Pendings < 5% = good. >= 5% = questionable. >10% = there is a problem somewhere.
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Message 1804829 - Posted: 25 Jul 2016, 15:24:40 UTC - in response to Message 1804827.  
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Take your current steady state inconclusives and divide by pendings. Inconclusives / Pendings < 5% = good. >= 5% = questionable. >10% = there is a problem somewhere.

Well, looking yesterday afternoon, Out of 200 Units in queue there were 28 Pendings, (now 33), 8 Inconclusives, (now 7), and the one Error mentioned...

Yesterday, then, was 3.5% and today is 4.71%. This seems to be the new "Normal" for my system since switching to CUDA from OpenCL.

[EDIT:]

Forgot to include: 2 Invalids showing on recent numbers...

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Message 1804830 - Posted: 25 Jul 2016, 15:26:07 UTC - in response to Message 1804829.  

Take your current steady state inconclusives and divide by pendings. Inconclusives / Pendings < 5% = good. >= 5% = questionable. >10% = there is a problem somewhere.

Well, looking yesterday afternoon, Out of 200 Units in queue there were 28 Pendings, (now 33), 8 Inconclusives, (now 7), and the one Error mentioned...

Yesterday, then, was 3.5% and today is 4.71%. This seems to be the new "Normal" for my system since switching to CUDA from OpenCL.


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Nice. You're golden dude :-D ------ > Thread closed ?
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Message 1804833 - Posted: 25 Jul 2016, 15:31:46 UTC - in response to Message 1804830.  
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Take your current steady state inconclusives and divide by pendings. Inconclusives / Pendings < 5% = good. >= 5% = questionable. >10% = there is a problem somewhere.

Well, looking yesterday afternoon, Out of 200 Units in queue there were 28 Pendings, (now 33), 8 Inconclusives, (now 7), and the one Error mentioned...

Yesterday, then, was 3.5% and today is 4.71%. This seems to be the new "Normal" for my system since switching to CUDA from OpenCL.

[EDIT:]

Forgot to include: 2 Invalids showing on recent numbers...

[End Edit.]


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Nice. You're golden dude :-D ------ > Thread closed ?

I have no complaints; was just clarifying things for Stubbles69/Rob. KUDOS to TBar for his hard work!!! :-)

Thanks again, everyone.

<<--- Still feel STUPID about that rubber protector thing.... :-O


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Message 1804835 - Posted: 25 Jul 2016, 15:41:40 UTC - in response to Message 1804833.  

My only comment is that this demonstrates a lot of things we do need to care about. Accuracy & precision are important (though different). We learned that to have an idea of whether something is working right or not, you need a reference. For the general case inconclusive/pending works, just because pending will average itself depending on project health. So, for example, you are less than 5% mutated than project average, if your inconclusives/pendings is less than 5%
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Message 1804841 - Posted: 25 Jul 2016, 16:35:54 UTC
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LOL....that IS a funny missing the cap on the connector.
And I am laughing with you, not at you.
I would be fibbing if I did not admit that over the years I have had one or two similar mishaps by not having my eyes open or my thinking cap on. Trying to mate the wrong PSU connector with a mobo socket, etc..
And then giving myself the big ol' facepalm when I figured out what I was trying to do.
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Message 1804843 - Posted: 25 Jul 2016, 16:56:21 UTC - in response to Message 1804826.  

At last check, (been a few months since I've looked), the CUDA Driver from NVIDIA for MAC OS X was 7.5.26; this is what I'm on. I still encounter "Validation Inconclusives" and "Invalids" on CUDA65; but NOT as many as when I was stock on OpenCL. The one "Error" I still have showing is from a "Ghost" that was created when I switched from OpenCL to CUDA65 and my entire cache got wiped.

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Sometimes the Driver is updated a couple times a month, sometimes it goes a couple months without being updated.
It's Real easy to check. Just go to the Dock and open System Preferences. Then open CUDA. Why didn't you do that simple check before posting?
This is the current driver, http://www.nvidia.com/object/macosx-cuda-7.5.30-driver.html

I just had a problem with the latest Special App and the 750Ti, it was solved by updating the driver. You should try it.
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Message 1804851 - Posted: 25 Jul 2016, 18:17:29 UTC - in response to Message 1804843.  
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At last check, (been a few months since I've looked), the CUDA Driver from NVIDIA for MAC OS X was 7.5.26; this is what I'm on. I still encounter "Validation Inconclusives" and "Invalids" on CUDA65; but NOT as many as when I was stock on OpenCL. The one "Error" I still have showing is from a "Ghost" that was created when I switched from OpenCL to CUDA65 and my entire cache got wiped.

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Sometimes the Driver is updated a couple times a month, sometimes it goes a couple months without being updated.
It's Real easy to check. Just go to the Dock and open System Preferences. Then open CUDA. Why didn't you do that simple check before posting?
This is the current driver, http://www.nvidia.com/object/macosx-cuda-7.5.30-driver.html

I just had a problem with the latest Special App and the 750Ti, it was solved by updating the driver. You should try it.

Thanks for that, TBar! :-) Just Updated to CUDA 7.5.30... We'll see tonight how it goes. :-)


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[EDIT:]

Also noticed that the system seems to lag, (especially in Firefox), since adding the second 750TI SC... (Maybe a system memory issue???) System only has 8GB, DDR2 800MHz RAM... Just ordered new Patriot 4GB RAM sticks totaling 16GB, (4 sticks), also at 800MHz. New RAM should be here just before the WOW Event starts up. Hopefully this improves system stability issues. (Memory Leak(s) maybe???)

Footnote: Nothing has crashed, yet...


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[EDIT 2:]

The new Patriot RAM was purchased through EBAY and was half the price of my local Fry's Electronics store in Concord, CA. Couldn't find anything through Amazon that did NOT have ECC on it... This MOBO does NOT use ECC... So, I ordered through the EBAY source.

$164.24 for four 4GB DDR2 800MHz sticks of Patriot RAM.


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Message 1804866 - Posted: 25 Jul 2016, 20:05:36 UTC - in response to Message 1804851.  
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I'm guessing you're still running a CUDA 5.5 task and CUDA 6.5 task at the same time?
That probably won't work very well.
You should only run One type of task at a time.
My testing shows the best results are with running One task per GPU with the -poll option on the Baseline App. The Special App uses a full CPU already so the -poll option offers no advantage. On the Baseline Apps the -poll option speeds up the SINGLE task quite a bit.
I'm running three cards with 6 GBs of RAM, No Lag here.

If you were using the CUDA 7.5 App your app_info.xml set to use the -poll option would look as this;
<app_info>
  <app>
     <name>setiathome_v8</name>
  </app>
    <file_info>
        <name>setiathome_x41zi_x86_64-apple-darwin_cuda75</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>libcudart.6.5.dylib</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <file_info>
        <name>libcufft.6.5.dylib</name>
        <executable/>
    </file_info>
   <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
        <platform>x86_64-apple-darwin</platform>
        <version_num>802</version_num>
        <plan_class>cuda65</plan_class>
        <avg_ncpus>0.1</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.1</max_ncpus>
        <cmdline>-poll</cmdline>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>setiathome_x41zi_x86_64-apple-darwin_cuda75</file_name>
            <main_program/>
         </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libcudart.6.5.dylib</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libcufft.6.5.dylib</file_name>
        </file_ref>
     </app_version>
</app_info>

Since you are only using the GPUs using a full CPU per task shouldn't be a concern, and it will complete the GPU tasks faster.

It would be even faster using the Special App....
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Message 1804964 - Posted: 26 Jul 2016, 8:32:29 UTC - in response to Message 1804851.  

At last check, (been a few months since I've looked), the CUDA Driver from NVIDIA for MAC OS X was 7.5.26; this is what I'm on. I still encounter "Validation Inconclusives" and "Invalids" on CUDA65; but NOT as many as when I was stock on OpenCL. The one "Error" I still have showing is from a "Ghost" that was created when I switched from OpenCL to CUDA65 and my entire cache got wiped.

TL

Sometimes the Driver is updated a couple times a month, sometimes it goes a couple months without being updated.
It's Real easy to check. Just go to the Dock and open System Preferences. Then open CUDA. Why didn't you do that simple check before posting?
This is the current driver, http://www.nvidia.com/object/macosx-cuda-7.5.30-driver.html

I just had a problem with the latest Special App and the 750Ti, it was solved by updating the driver. You should try it.

Thanks for that, TBar! :-) Just Updated to CUDA 7.5.30... We'll see tonight how it goes. :-)


TL

[EDIT:]

Also noticed that the system seems to lag, (especially in Firefox), since adding the second 750TI SC... (Maybe a system memory issue???) System only has 8GB, DDR2 800MHz RAM... Just ordered new Patriot 4GB RAM sticks totaling 16GB, (4 sticks), also at 800MHz. New RAM should be here just before the WOW Event starts up. Hopefully this improves system stability issues. (Memory Leak(s) maybe???)

Footnote: Nothing has crashed, yet...


TL

[EDIT 2:]

The new Patriot RAM was purchased through EBAY and was half the price of my local Fry's Electronics store in Concord, CA. Couldn't find anything through Amazon that did NOT have ECC on it... This MOBO does NOT use ECC... So, I ordered through the EBAY source.

$164.24 for four 4GB DDR2 800MHz sticks of Patriot RAM.


TL

My limited experience is that mobo with DDR2 ram only support 8 gb. Did you check documentation?
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Message 1804969 - Posted: 26 Jul 2016, 9:42:34 UTC - in response to Message 1804964.  
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...(Edited for space and readability.)
[EDIT 2:]

The new Patriot RAM was purchased through EBAY and was half the price of my local Fry's Electronics store in Concord, CA. Couldn't find anything through Amazon that did NOT have ECC on it... This MOBO does NOT use ECC... So, I ordered through the EBAY source.

$164.24 for four 4GB DDR2 800MHz sticks of Patriot RAM.


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My limited experience is that mobo with DDR2 ram only support 8 gb. Did you check documentation?

Yes, the docs state that 16 GB is the limit for this board. :-)
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Message 1805010 - Posted: 26 Jul 2016, 20:59:27 UTC

16 GB Patriot DDR2 PC2 6400 RAM installed and working perfectly. :-)

Lagging has been greatly reduced; but, NOT fully eliminated. It still takes some time to maneuver within my Hushmail e-Mail Account, moving things, deleting things, making folders, etc... On 8 GB DDR2 RAM, these things would end up taking 5 Min sometimes; resulting in a gray spinning wheel in the corner of the open Tab in Firefox. Now, under 16 GB RAM, it took 30 seconds to get into the e-Mail Account and one item therein took 1.5 Min... MUCH IMPROVED. :-)

Under the 8 GB of RAM; almost 4 GB was being taken up by system resources and open/active programs. Now, this has dropped 1 GB to 3 GB of resources used and the rest of the 16 GB is free. :-)

I will find out more tonight when BOINC resumes crunching. I still have a couple of Einstein Units left in queue. So, when things pick up tonight; I'll have to wait until those finish before BOINC dedicates both 750's to SETI.


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