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Message 1805808 - Posted: 30 Jul 2016, 11:13:07 UTC - in response to Message 1805777.  

Think you're asking the wrong person MK, it should have been directed at Mister Snark. However I'll answer it.

No I don't because I don't think a simpleton can be xenophobic.
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Message 1806058 - Posted: 31 Jul 2016, 12:58:32 UTC

2 interesting reports. Is the EU losing its way?

Testing times for Europe's banks

With Germany being such an economic powerhouse, what's with Deutsche Bank?

NATO suspension?

"EU officials have said the accession talks will be suspended immediately, if the Turkish government reintroduces the death penalty."

So the clamping down of free speech doesn't matter then EU?
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Message 1807963 - Posted: 8 Aug 2016, 16:16:15 UTC

Maybe now people will understand why the UK, mostly outside London, voted for Brexit. Government spends six times more per person on transport in London than the North, new figures reveal

New figures suggest the Government is spending more just on Crossrail in London than on all projects across the whole of northern England


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Message 1808284 - Posted: 10 Aug 2016, 9:22:26 UTC - in response to Message 1808255.  

At least keep up to date if you want to keep hitting the UK :-)

it's just an upgrade/extension of...predating Brexit by 16 years
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Message 1812058 - Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 7:11:59 UTC

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Message 1812072 - Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 8:10:38 UTC - in response to Message 1812058.  

Does any one really believe that Brexit via Article 50 will actually happen?

Probably not, even if triggered and negotiations happen, it can be argued that a vote or referendum on the outcome will be needed for the proposed changes to happen.

Can't see that happening before the next general election on 7th May 2020. That could turn out to be the real battle, with the result deciding either to Brexit or not.
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Message 1812074 - Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 8:28:28 UTC - in response to Message 1812072.  

Well since the Maastricht & Lisbon Treaties were ratified by parliament with no referendum for the people, those very same people saw how the EU were handling the global financial crisis & made matters worse for those within the Eurozone.

So our politicians seeing the same thing, decided to give the people their say knowing full well (mistakenly as it seems) that they could continue in the same vein as the country wouldn't be foolish enough to say leave...

...oops! Now we can all sit back & watch those very same politicians bluff their way out of the biggest mess of their own creation!
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Message 1812094 - Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 9:20:39 UTC - in response to Message 1812074.  

Well since the Maastricht & Lisbon Treaties were ratified by parliament with no referendum for the people, those very same people saw how the EU were handling the global financial crisis & made matters worse for those within the Eurozone.

So our politicians seeing the same thing, decided to give the people their say knowing full well (mistakenly as it seems) that they could continue in the same vein as the country wouldn't be foolish enough to say leave...

...oops! Now we can all sit back & watch those very same politicians bluff their way out of the biggest mess of their own creation!

But the referendum of 1975 was held to accept and confirm our joining in 1973 because of the fundamental constitutional changes required.

If we leave, then will we not have to agree to the presumably reversal of those constitutional changes or whatever agreement they come up with.
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Message 1812126 - Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 10:54:20 UTC - in response to Message 1812094.  

!975 was for the Social Chapter of the EEC which Britain joined in 1973 (without a referendum).

Maastricht & Lisbon turned the EEC into the EU. Many of the Eurozone nations held referendums for those treaties. Did Britain?
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Message 1812746 - Posted: 26 Aug 2016, 9:20:56 UTC - in response to Message 1812126.  

Geoffrey Robertson, a lawyer who has been counsel in many landmark constitutional cases, added shortly after the referendum that “MPs have every right, and indeed a duty if they think it best for Britain, to vote to stay” in the EU. He said that Parliament must repeal the 1972 European Communities Act, by which it voted to take us into the EU, before Brexit can be triggered.

“It is being said that the government can trigger Brexit under Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty, merely by sending a note to Brussels. This is wrong… the UK’s most fundamental constitutional requirement is that there must first be the approval of its parliament,” Mr Robertson added.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-article-50-owen-smith-labour-leadership-election-eu-referendum-uk-jeremy-corbyn-a7206876.html
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Message 1812748 - Posted: 26 Aug 2016, 10:08:13 UTC - in response to Message 1812746.  
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The government can trigger Brexit under Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty, merely by sending a note to Brussels.

And here is the note sending the clear message that Britain will Brexit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRlqmTKyQx0

Or perhaps "Yeah but, no but, yeah but..." is a more clearer message.
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Message 1812751 - Posted: 26 Aug 2016, 11:26:29 UTC - in response to Message 1812746.  

& that's the 800 lb gorilla in the room.

Makes one wonder why the referendum was held in the 1st place as Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty is meaningless until the 1972 ECA is repealed.
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Message 1812752 - Posted: 26 Aug 2016, 11:39:24 UTC

Whatever they are going to do why don't they get f-ing on with it
Life is what you make of it :-)

When i'm good i'm very good , but when i'm bad i'm shi#eloads better ;-) In't I " buttercups " p.m.s.l at authoritie !!;-)
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Message 1812756 - Posted: 26 Aug 2016, 12:31:50 UTC - in response to Message 1812752.  

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Message 1812990 - Posted: 27 Aug 2016, 15:23:35 UTC - in response to Message 1812944.  

"Initially, Merkel had planned announce her intentions in spring 2016. But then came the refugee crisis and the ensuing bitter dispute with Seehofer and the CSU as to how best to confront the challenge."

It seems that Germany has problems with their "immigration crisis"

"Initially, Merkel had planned announce her intentions in spring 2016.

At the time, the chancellor decided to delay her announcement until this fall.
The dispute with Seehofer has not yet been adequately resolved and the Bavarian party is considering the possibility of nominating its own candidate for the Chancellery."

It seems that German politicians also hold back on decisions until the time is right!

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Message 1813388 - Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 8:49:39 UTC
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Hmmm...

Cyprus
Greece
... and now...
Brexit
... be nice if the American "3 strikes & you're out" comes into play here. :-)

Maybe Dave "Dyno-rod" Cameron working behind the scene.
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Message 1813758 - Posted: 30 Aug 2016, 11:25:56 UTC

The EU getting it's knickers in a twist?

EU taking on Apple, Ireland & US

Well, they have to justify their jobs for the next few years :-)
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Message 1813761 - Posted: 30 Aug 2016, 11:45:47 UTC - in response to Message 1813758.  
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BuzzFeed business editor Simon Neville tweets:
Luckily, as UK is leaving the EU, we'll be able to have as many sweetheart tax deals with any multinational we want. Hurrah!

It's the dark side of globalization.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-37219665

Tax rise for Irish citizens soon?
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Message 1814634 - Posted: 2 Sep 2016, 13:35:16 UTC

Hmm, not a good year for the EU :-)

Irish Government to fight European Commission's ruling

That's 3 EZ Nations telling them to "stick it up their jacksy's", only 25 to go :-)
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