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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30650 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Nice opinion commentary. That's as masterful as US party politics. The contagion has blossomed and spread its pollen spoor all over Europe. All those grand designs for a United States of Europe are nothing but toilet paper today. If they try and implement, the machines of war will rumble across the continent yet again. For anything to move forward, Germany will have to have no more power than Greece does in Brussels. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
All I can say is that Nicholas Clegg & the rest of the Liberal Democrats are bending over kissing their butts, glad they got ousted last May. I'm surprised that they haven't piped up with this: - "Had we still been in coalition, this wouldn't have happened". As it is, the shock wave is still rippling outwards. We have Corbyn telephoning Ikea requesting a new cabinet be delivered, Cameron off to Panama after his visit to Brussels to check on his offshore accounts & with all the hulabaloo over the NHS, we now have master Hunt considering standing for the leadership of the Tories. As for the EU being undemocratic? What was the first thing said by many on Friday morning? "We will stop others from exiting". |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
& from the same paper... US "urges" the UK & EU to "divorce amicably" All these statesmen & women, experts & the like, WTH were they in 2008 when the banking fatcats caused a global financial meltdown? A country decides to leave a corrupt organisation & the furore... ...Unbelievable. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
A country decides to leave a corrupt organisation & the furore... This is also unbelievable. It looks almost like Britain think it will be as before, except that they should not pay a fee. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Why should they? The EU's GDP is declining year in year out. Britain has to pay a fee, well enough, we'll pay it. However for you to continue trading with us, our tariffs just went up a little higher than the fee. Europe exports more to us than we export to Europe. Europe wants a level playing field, you can have it, just don't dictate to us. What's hard to understand about that? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30650 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
A country decides to leave a corrupt organisation & the furore... and BINGO was his NAME-O! I urge the EU to place the UK on the no trade list! Expel all the ex-pats! Send them packing. Control the contagion by making an example of them. Hurry and void all those pre-EU trade agreements so there is nothing to fall back on. Get it done before they declare 50. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
LOL, the fatcats of Europe will come gunning for you. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Why should they? The EU's GDP is declining year in year out. Britain has to pay a fee, well enough, we'll pay it. However for you to continue trading with us, our tariffs just went up a little higher than the fee. Germany exports more to the UK then they import and are a big trade partner. Another problem is of course that Germany and France always want to dictate us other EU members. Forgot. There are almost as many who wants to stay in the EU as those who want to leave. The regions Greater London, Scotland and Northern Ireland (and Gibraltar) wants to stay. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30650 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Another problem is of course that Germany and France always want to dictate us other EU members. So you allow this?!! |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
LOL, the fatcats of Europe will come gunning for you. Would that be the criminal fatcats such as this person |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Poor Sturgeon. Well one bandwagon jumper got told in clear terms: - "The President of the European Parliament Martin Schulz says he listened and learned during his morning meeting with Nicola Sturgeon in Brussels. And speaking after a brief meeting with Scotland's First Minister, the leader of the party of European socialists in the European Parliament Gianni Pitella said he was "sympathetic" to Scotland's situation, but this that this was an issue to be solved within the UK." |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Another problem is of course that Germany and France always want to dictate us other EU members. What do you think? Sweden has 20 MEPs, with 1.7% of the seats in the EU Parliament. Do they have a realistic opportunity to influence the EU, and are the rest of the EU even listening to us or are we run over? It's the same for all of us smaller countries in the EU. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Denmark The close relationship between Denmark, Sweden and the UK raises the likelihood that Brexit will be followed by referendums in those two countries. France 'I would vote for Brexit, even if I think that France has 1,000 more reasons to leave than the UK,' she said, referring to the EU as 'decaying'. Italy Polls have revealed that 48 per cent of Italians believe they would be better off out of the EU, and would vote to leave given the opportunity. Netherlands Following the Brexit vote, he tweeted, 'hurrah for the Brits! Now it's our turn. time for a Dutch referendum!' Austria Austria has a large Eurosceptic movement, as was demonstrated when Norbert Hofer, the far-Right populist candidate, came within a hair's breadth of winning the presidency. His party, the FPÖ, has experienced a surge in support in recent months. Czech Republic The Czech prime minister, Bohuslav Sobotka, has warned that a Brexit could trigger a 'Czexit'. Greece Economists have predicted that Greece could exit the Eurozone altogether now that the UK has voted Brexit. Spain Spanish woes have not yet given rise to a Eurosceptic party. Poland Brexit is seen as wholly bad for Poland, Hungary Hungary is one of the most Eurosceptic countries in Europe. Ireland As Britain's closest neighbour, pro-Europe Ireland will inevitably be caught up in the economic turmoil that will dominate at least in the short term after Brexit. So a message for Herr Juncker, make that 9 litres of booze tonight -) |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/28/opinion/marine-le-pen-after-brexit-the-peoples-spring-is-inevitable.html IF there’s one thing that chafes French pride, it’s seeing the British steal the limelight. But in the face of real courage, even the proudest French person can only tip his hat and bow. The decision that the people of Britain have just made was indeed an act of courage — the courage of a people who embrace their freedom. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Hmmm. Marine Le Pen, leader of the French far-right party Front National... Front National is partly sponsored by Russia... But this time she make sense. Each of the 28 countries that constitute it has slowly lost its democratic prerogatives to commissions and councils with no popular mandate. I hope however that Marine will not be stronger because of Brexit. That would be bad for Europe, EU or not. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Oui, monsieur, mais les pays européens ont: - conseillers municipaux maires constituences locaux du parti Suivi par Les députés de toutes les saveurs ministres du gouvernement secrétaires premier ministre Ajouté par Commission européenne (Gestapo) Parlement européen (SS) Dirigée par cher vieux Adolf lui-même Pour couronner le tout, le maréchal Pétain lui-même préconise maintenant que "Little Britain" est plus avec nous, l'anglais ne devrait plus être parlée en Europe. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30650 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Accept the THEM or else ... http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_BRITAIN_EU?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-06-29-10-53-16 Wasn't this why you voted leave in the first place? Time to put your money where your mouth is! |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30650 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Another problem is of course that Germany and France always want to dictate us other EU members. You signed up knowing this?!! |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Oui, monsieur, mais les pays européens ont: - You forgot that Herrn Merkel dont understand french:) Ja, Herrn, aber europäische Länder: - |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Another problem is of course that Germany and France always want to dictate us other EU members. Apparantly:) I didn't know that countries had seats according to the size of the population. No wonder why EU has so much problem. Germany, France, Great Britain (for now), Italy, Spain, Poland, Romania have more than 90% votes! The rest, 22 countries, have about 10%. |
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