Chris Grayling, leader of the House of Commons, has told BBC Radio 4: "We need a free trade agreement with the European Union, which allows us to control the flow of people into and out of the country."

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36641383

Since the EU referendum results revealed the UK voted to leave, people have been compiling reports of racism on social media.

A number of incidents where people have experienced hostility because of the colour of their skin and their ethnic background have been shared online.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36634786

https://twitter.com/hashtag/postrefracism?f=tweets&vertical=news

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The German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, has said there can be no talks on Brexit before the UK formally begins the process of leaving the EU.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36637232

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Summary:

UK: Nonsense, xenophobia, racism.

EU: No nonsense.

Ok, Ump. Snark....

You say that Brexit was 'xenophobic, racist nonsense'.

Ok, what about tax policy?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/07/we-cannot-set-fair-taxes-as-long-as-britain-remains-in-the-eu/


John Redwood, MP for Wokingham wrote:

We were always promised that the taxes we pay are a matter for UK voters and their elected Parliament at Westminster, not for the EU to impose. When governments were signing away our power to govern ourselves they knew they had to reassure us that they would not let Brussels tax us.

They lied to us.

Today the overwhelming majority of MPs want to abolish the tampon tax. We do not see this as some luxury product that deserves a 20% VAT charge, but as a necessity that should not be taxed at all. Brussels tells us we cannot do that.
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The perverse and undemocratic nature of EU tax policies is underlined by their approach to company taxation.

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The UK Parliament grew up to stop the King taxing people unfairly, and to make the King deal with people’s needs and grievances before collecting the tax. Today the EU has taken the place of the King, the sovereign. Parliament needs to have the power to stop the EU imposing on people taxes we do not agree with, and needs to have the power to collect taxes from big business we do agree with.

No wonder so many large corporations think we should stay in the EU. The EU is cutting the amount of tax they have to pay, at the cost of the rest of us who then have to put up with VAT on fuel, on green products and on tampons. We need to leave the EU so we can set the taxes we think are fair.

Sorry, but reasserting one's national sovereignty is NOT racist, xenophobic nonsense.

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#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

Well as you see the UK as full of xenophobic simpletons.

And the rest of the EU is perfect, you should be glad to get rid of us.

(Just don't look up xenophobia or racism for other EU countries.)

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Please do not tempt me to think any further about "good riddance".

Well why not, it is what you seem to think we are saying.

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(Just don't look up xenophobia or racism for other EU countries.)

Oh dear. I did:)
This is 4 years ago but I doubt if it would be better now.
https://www.vice.com/read/guide-to-european-racist-leagues

Au revoir, English? Now French say the language has 'no legitimacy' and should be kicked out of Europe too after Brexit.
http://www.thelocal.fr/20160627/french-want-english-ditched-as-eu-language
Sigh...

But so far none other in the EU has gone this far as your distinguished nation. Please do not tempt me to think any further about "good riddance".

There are many in Europe facing despair & disenfranchisement with the EU. Quiet a few are in the governments of European Countries.

Are they also xenophobic simpletons?

From your posts to date, you are either European or American, so tell us: -

Which is it?

European = 500,000,000 simpletons

America = 300,000,000 simpletons

Either way, Britain with its 63,000,000 is certainly not a patch on the others.

As for racism? Compared to those others? Thanks for the best laugh of the day :-)

Good edit to put that zero in otherwise that would have shown what you really thought about the size of the UK! :)

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LOL, yes, spotted it in time.

That's always been true to a degree, but this time around, I'm not so sure.

It's not Britain that will destroy the EU but 2 countries that caused Europe grief 4 times already.

The spite & unwillingness to show diplomacy from both Germany & France will the EU's undoing.

Many are failing to see, is that Britain is not Anti-Europe, but Anti-EU.

"What makes this result, on the other hand, is, of course, a victory for democracy. The greatest strength of any country is the degree to which it is an open society and this vote showed that on that index we excel.

The sovereign will of the British people is what has prevailed in producing this enormous geopolitical shift. So it's three cheers for democracy and for the 72.2% voter turnout rate."

Report

If it was left to any of the 17,410,742, it would already be done. However, as shown worldwide, that's best left to those in power.

So how about you cutting the crap & answer questions posed directly to you.

Looks like Boris "Bojo" will take over the helm.
In a column in The Telegraph, he argues that there are no differences to speak of the day the withdrawal is to be realized. And it is, moreover, not in a hurry.
The British will continue to have access to the single market and the English will be able to travel, study and work throughout Europe. London will continue to influence foreign policy and international security. Furthermore, United Kingdom remain a unit.

In your dream!

And now the back stabbing begins...

Poland says Britain must hold a 2nd referendum BUT the EU must change radically

...this was coming for how many years Poland?

Why didn't ANYONE of you step up to the plate beforehand?

WHY NOW? Dutch courage after we showed you the way?

I agree with you on all points above, except that I'm almost 100% sure, that the fat cats will find a way to get around the referendum result. But, we will see in the coming months....

This may stop the rot entirely.

Poland "leaks" French & German plans for the EU

Polish Foreign Minister "outraged".

SO minister can we see Poland as the next country to exit the "EU"?

SO minister can we see Poland as the next country to exit the "EU"?

Will not happen.
Poland and Hungary are the largest net recipient. This means that they get back most of the EU countries in terms of support and contributions compared to what they pay in fees to the EU.

In a joint statement tonight the leaders of Germany, France and Italy say the European Union 'must dedicate itself to the worries expressed by its citizens.'
In their statement Monday, the three leaders said that the EU is a success and that the bloc is indispensable in securing 'the economic and social progress for our people, and to assert Europe's role in the world.'
But German Chancellor Angela Merkel, French President Hollande and Italian Premier Matteo Renzi acknowledged that the EU can only advance if it is supported by its people.

How can we the people support something thats is mostly unknown to us?
Where do our tax money go to and why?
Decisions that seems to be made after secrect lobbying groups have their saying.
Many questions that the EU have difficulties to answer.

Could it be a culture and language problem.
I say yes.

Now that the EU budget will be 10% less, their share will also be less :-)

I agree with you on all points above, except that I'm almost 100% sure, that the fat cats will find a way to get around the referendum result. But, we will see in the coming months....

This may stop the rot entirely.

Poland "leaks" French & German plans for the EU

Polish Foreign Minister "outraged".

SO minister can we see Poland as the next country to exit the "EU"?

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tvp.info%2F25939587%2Feuropejskie-superpanstwo-zobacz-oryginalny-dokument&edit-text=&act=url

The news article that the express.co.uk article is reporting... translated to english...

Don't know how reliable it is, but it is something I have been saying the EU 'leadership' was planning to do now for a number of years...

Looks like you Brits might have gotten out just in time... that is if your Govt. has the intestinal fortitude to do what the People voted to do...

The EU is looking and acting more and more like the '4th Reich' with every passing day.

The USE.... <snicker>.....

Heil Merkel! <spit>

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#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

Just been reading an article on a site, that covers parties in the UK, in other European countries and other countries outside of Europe. It has no direct political connections, in fact tries very hard to ignore political implications, but is considering the implications of the UK being outside the EU, as some of the regulations it works under are governed by the EU.

Its reading on the present situation and Article 50 taking into consideration the change of Prime Minister, the Labour party and its leadership mess.

1. New Tory leader (Prime Minister) on 2nd September.
2. Rather than make a decision, the new PM calls for General Election, knowing Labour Party troubles will probably have them in greater turmoil than the Tories.
3. One of the parties will promise 2nd Referendum, in the hope of gaining votes. The other parties will probably follow that line.
4. Article 50 will not be initiated until after the 2nd Referendum if that's the way the vote goes.

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This WP article says almost the same as what I said in my previous. Brexit is not just Europe’s problem. It highlights a crisis in democracies worldwide.

Had to chuckle at this,

A longtime analyst of politics here, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of his position, said: “If you thought your [American] politics were a mess, we can outdo you any time. I’ve never known it in any way, shape or form as bad as this.”

So, as i hinted earlier, the market have now also understood (or rather, the orders from the fat cats have been acknowledged by the UK parliament) that the UK will not really leave the EU.

GBP now mostly in the green across most currencies, including the Euro, and the Dollar:

http://www.fxstreet.com/rates-charts/rates/crosses/gbp

There will still be some fluctuations, but the trend is clear. The market now knows that the UK government will never trigger Article 50.

So you willing to bet your life savings on that?!

It is called a technical correction. (The pause that refreshes.) It will exhaust itself PDQ and the fall will continue.

Got to love those downgrades. Don't get just the government either. No company on the island can get a higher rating than the government, so all UK companies just had their costs skyrocket. Can you say redundant?

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interesting comment in the Guardian Brexit: UK's most senior EU official resigns after leave vote – as it happened

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If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost.

Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.

With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.

How?

Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor.

And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew.

The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction.

The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?

Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?

Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated.

If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.

The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.

When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.

All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.