OK, I asked also for some music. Any music?
Tullio

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Your statement had an 'or' modifier, not an 'and', suggesting you only needed one, not both to satisfy your requirement.

Only Lucretius? Why not Ovidius then? Mens agitat molem.
Tullio

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I could make a whole catalog of Christian inspired literary masterpieces, musical masterpieces, paintings, sculptures, cathedrals. You have only Lucretius?
Tullio

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Do you have only Lucretius? Answer this,please.
Tullio

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No, I am a man of faith.
Tullio

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I regret this, but have to gather you are not a man of your word.

No, I am a man of faith.

LOL! This just comes across too funny. It reads as "No man of faith is a man of their words."

Do I contradict myself?
Very well, then I contradict myself.
I am large, I contain multitudes.

Walt Whitman, "Leaves of grass".
Tullio

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From theology to what Michio actually said.
Michio hasn't proved anything.
He base his speculation to God with a chain of other hypothetical theories.
String theory.
Super string theory.
Super numbers.
Super topology.
Super differential geometry.
Super symmetry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersymmetry

Recently we discovered string theory, and string theory exists in 10 and 11 dimensional hyperspace.
Not only that, but these dimensions are super.
They're super symmetric.
A new kind of numbers that mathematicians never talked about evolved within string theory.
That's how we call it "super string theory."
Well, the mathematicians were floored.
They were shocked because all of a sudden out of physics came new mathematics, super numbers, super topology, super differential geometry.

All of a sudden we had super symmetric theories coming out of physics that then revolutionized mathematics, and so the goal of physics we believe is to find an equation perhaps no more than one inch long which will allow us to unify all the forces of nature and allow us to read the mind of God.
And what is the key to that one inch equation?
Super symmetry, a symmetry that comes out of physics, not mathematics, and has shocked the world of mathematics.
But you see, all this is pure mathematics and so the final resolution could be that God is a mathematician.
And when you read the mind of God, we actually have a candidate for the mind of God.
The mind of God we believe is cosmic music, the music of strings resonating through 11 dimensional hyperspace.
That is the mind of God.

I may not be able to beat myself at all times.

@janneseti,

Science is about possibly understanding nature, not necessarily prove or disprove whether God does exist or not.

This is not about being a possible atheist, agnostic, or maybe something else, but rather the way science is supposed to be carried out.

I will try reaching a hand out for those believers in a later post, since I may have been slightly too harsh.

In any case, you are supposed to be earning for your living whether you happen to be a scientist or a priest.

If religion for some reason is the same as a given methodology in order to be able to understand a given subject, that is fine with me.

But this only means that this way of approach is a way of dealing with a couple of subjects in a given or specific way and not some other immaterial way of doing the same which could be regarded as being something else.