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Message 1799587 - Posted: 30 Jun 2016, 7:20:10 UTC - in response to Message 1799580.  

Istanbul Ataturk airport attack.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36662684
Only a few weeks ago my sister was in Turkey on holiday, not Istanbul though.
She was surprised not seeing any armed police or military on the airport they came to...

Attacking "infidels" is one thing...but attacking "their own" - totally different!
Now you see what US has awaken, when it wanted to overthrown al-Assad!
Hope it doesn't happen again...never!
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Nobody knows who did this for now.
It could be Daesh and it could be PKK, the kurdish militants.
That the attack is somewhat directed to the US seems very far fetched to me.
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Message 1799631 - Posted: 30 Jun 2016, 13:36:01 UTC - in response to Message 1799587.  

That the attack is somewhat directed to the US seems very far fetched to me.
Anything bad is the USA's fault. Nothing good is the USA's fault.
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Message 1799926 - Posted: 1 Jul 2016, 14:59:37 UTC
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Was one-armed Chechen warlord behind Istanbul airport attack?
And why does terrorists like Sweden.
Chataev - nicknamed 'One-Armed' after he claimed one of his limbs was chopped off in prison - fled Russia 12 years ago, and won refugee status in Austria.
Once in Europe, he sent equipment back to the Northern Caucuses for terrorists to use, it has been reported.
In 2008, he was arrested in Sweden for illegal possession of arms, spending a year in prison after Kalashnikov guns, explosives and bullets were found in his car.
'One-Armed' insisted that he was trapped in a sting operation.
After he completed his sentence, he moved to the Ukraine, where he was arrested on a warrant from Russian police - but used his Austrian refugee status to avoid deportation.

Tschatajev claimed when he was arrested in Sweden that he and the other two were on their way to Norway to collect a debt. It was, according to him, if between 4000 and 5000 euros. He also told the hearing that he also hoped to borrow money in Norway - and that he would go fishing.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3667783/Was-one-armed-Chechen-warlord-Istanbul-airport-attack-Bearded-terror-mastermind-fled-Russia-12-years-ago-settling-Turkey-ISIS-recruiter-security-services-say.html#ixzz4DATsSKYN

And one of those involved in the Paris attack, Mohamed Belkaid, lived in Sweden for about 4 years!

And one of those involved in the Brussel attack, Osama Krayem, lived in Sweden for about 1 year!
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Message 1800109 - Posted: 2 Jul 2016, 14:34:28 UTC

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/06/27/al-qaeda-urges-lone-wolves-to-target-whites-to-avoid-hate-crime-label.html
Lone wolf jihadists should target white Americans so no one mistakes their terror attacks for hate crimes unrelated to the cause of radical Islam, Al Qaeda writes in the latest edition of its online magazine.

In an article first reported by The Foreign Desk, Al Qaeda of the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) called for more self-directed Muslim terrorists to kill in America. But the article, titled “Inspire guide: Orlando operation,” tells terrorists to “avoid targeting places and crowds where minorities are generally found” because if gays or Latinos appear to be the targets, “the federal government will be the one taking full responsibility.”
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Although Al Qaeda does not take credit for Mateen’s attack in the online article, it urges more “lone wolves” to take up arms. Jihadists should target “areas where the Anglo-Saxon community is generally concentrated,” it states. “This class of the American community is the majority and it is the one that is in the American leadership.”

Al Qaeda is "very carefully threading a needle" by endorsing the attack while criticizing Mateen's target selection, said Ryan Mauro, national security analyst for Clarion Project, a Washington-based nonprofit that tracks the international terror threat.

"This is Al Qaeda's way of asserting itself above ISIS in the wake of its competitor's success," Mauro said.

Inspire magazine often exploits terror attacks in the West and makes threats against Europe and the United States. While the terror group responsible for 9/11 has been overshadowed by rival ISIS in recent years, it praised Mateen for his monstrous act.

“We stand by and support all Muslims who attack America in their homeland regardless of their affiliation to any group or loyalty,” the guide states, though adding that Mateen could have killed even more if he had used bombs in addition to the guns he carried: a Sig Sauer MCX semi-automatic rifle and a Glock 17 handgun.

"Al Qaeda is talking condescendingly toward ISIS while remaining supportive, like a guru of jihad mentoring a reckless amateur," Mauro said.

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Message 1800442 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016, 19:03:54 UTC

http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/030720161
ERBIL, Kurdistan Region—An Islamic State suicide car bombing in the Karrada district of Baghdad early Sunday morning ripped through the neighbourhood busy with shoppers preparing for this week’s Eid al-Fitr holiday, killing at least 167, wounding another 180, and further shredding the credibility of Iraq’s beleaguered government.

Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, visiting the site of the bombing, was met by an angry mob throwing stones at his vehicle convoy, calling him a thief. Though he vowed “punishment” for the perpetrators, bystanders cursed him and his government who they blame for not preventing the carnage on Iraq’s streets that is repeated all too often.

A suicide bomber blew up an explosive-laden pickup truck outside a busy shopping centre shortly after midnight on Sunday. Many families were on the streets after breaking their Ramadan fast.

The blast set buildings in the area on fire. Officials said dozens burned to death or suffocated. It was the single most deadly attack in Baghdad this year.

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Message 1800455 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016, 19:27:41 UTC - in response to Message 1800442.  
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Police said the dead included at least 15 children:(
It's still Ramadan and Eid al-Fitr is on Tuesday.
Don't Daesh hold anything for "sacred"?
Silly question by me.
They are illiterate and can't read the Noble Quran, al-Qurʾān al-Karīm, and the Haddith, the Narrative.
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Message 1800474 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016, 20:11:50 UTC - in response to Message 1800455.  

Police said the dead included at least 15 children:(
It's still Ramadan and Eid al-Fitr is on Tuesday.
Don't Daesh hold anything for "sacred"?
Silly question by me.
They are illiterate and can't read the Noble Quran, al-Qurʾān al-Karīm, and the Haddith, the Narrative.

They read a different Haddith.
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Message 1800482 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016, 20:35:14 UTC - in response to Message 1800474.  

Police said the dead included at least 15 children:(
It's still Ramadan and Eid al-Fitr is on Tuesday.
Don't Daesh hold anything for "sacred"?
Silly question by me.
They are illiterate and can't read the Noble Quran, al-Qurʾān al-Karīm, and the Haddith, the Narrative.

They read a different Haddith.

Yes. the Imams over time, and there are many of them, translates the old arabic texts that are more than a thousand years old and very difficult to translate, and comes up with totally different versions!

An example with dogs that most muslims don't know about.
I dont know how many times I have been harassed when walking my dog!!!
Regarding the questioner's words, "to have a dog is unclean" is not true, because the impurity is not the dog itself, but rather in its saliva when it drinks from a vessel.
If a person touches a dog or a dog touches him, that does not mean that he must cleanse himself with soil or water.
But if a dog drinks out of someone's vessel, he must (if he wants to use the vessel) pour out the water and wash it seven times with water and eighth time with soil.
If the vessel is only used to the dog, he does not have to clean it.
1 - That they are taahir (pure), even their saliva. This is Maaliks position.
2 - That they're Naji (impure), even their hair. This is al-Shaafi'is position and is one of the two positions narrated from Ahmad.
3 - The hair is taahir but their saliva is Naji. This is Abu Haneefah and Ahmad's position, according to the second opinion, as narrated from him.
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Message 1800586 - Posted: 4 Jul 2016, 5:50:55 UTC - in response to Message 1799587.  

Istanbul Ataturk airport attack.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36662684
Only a few weeks ago my sister was in Turkey on holiday, not Istanbul though.
She was surprised not seeing any armed police or military on the airport they came to...

Attacking "infidels" is one thing...but attacking "their own" - totally different!
Now you see what US has awaken, when it wanted to overthrown al-Assad!
Hope it doesn't happen again...never!
:(

Nobody knows who did this for now.
It could be Daesh and it could be PKK, the kurdish militants.
That the attack is somewhat directed to the US seems very far fetched to me.

The attack is directed to Turkey & it's policy...many "Islamist's" don't like the "modern Islam way" of Turkey & some other states - take Egypt also for example...so they attack their own, probably to wake them up!
example, year is 1953: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX4RK8bj2W0

making Turkey a NATO & ally to US, is only a benefit for them...


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Message 1800590 - Posted: 4 Jul 2016, 6:09:48 UTC - in response to Message 1800586.  

making Turkey a NATO & ally to US, is only a benefit for them...

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Turkey joined NATO in 1952.
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Message 1800726 - Posted: 4 Jul 2016, 16:56:41 UTC

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_BANGLADESH_THE_ATTACKERS_ASOL-?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-07-04-09-02-29
"It is difficult to imagine how they were radicalized. At least four come from very wealthy backgrounds," said Benazir Ahmed, head of the country's paramilitary Rapid Action Battalion, according to Indian broadcaster NDTV.

Patty Hearst or "Tania".

Brainwashing is not hard.
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Message 1800736 - Posted: 4 Jul 2016, 17:57:12 UTC

The game has changed ...
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/07/saudi-arabia-qatif-explosion-160704165007140.html
Saudi Arabia: Explosions near Medina and Qatif mosques

Suicide blast reported at Prophet's Mosque in Medina as witnesses say body parts of presumed bomber seen in Qatif.


Two explosions have struck near a mosque in the eastern Saudi Arabian city of Qatif, residents say.

Saudi-owned al-Arabiya TV also reported a suicide explosion near the security headquarters of the Prophet's Mosque in Medina.

In Qatif, on the Gulf coast, witnesses said a suicide bomber blew himself up outside a Shia mosque on Monday evening without causing any other injuries.

They reported seeing body parts lying on the ground in the city's business district.

"Suicide bomber for sure. I can see the body" which was blasted to pieces, a resident told the AFP news agency.

Nasima al-Sada, another resident, told AFP that "one bomber blew himself up near the mosque", frequented by Shia Muslims in downtown Qatif, on the Gulf coast.

Another witness told Reuters news agency that one explosion destroyed a car parked near a mosque, followed by another explosion just before 7pm local time.

"We are in the last 10 days of Ramadan and those places are crowded because of that for Maghreb [sunset] prayers," Khaled Batarfi, a Saudi Gazette columnist, told Al Jazeera.

Early on Monday morning, two security officers were injured as a suicide bomber blew himself up near the US consulate in the Red Sea port city of Jeddah.

The House of Saud will be drawn into the civil war now.
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Message 1800859 - Posted: 5 Jul 2016, 3:02:49 UTC - in response to Message 1793777.  
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It is your long rich history to take up arms against each other over minor petty differences.

Hmmm. Please explain.
There are countries here in Europe that haven't taking up arms for more than 200 years.


I believe the Swiss haven't been at war with anyone for over 400 years?
However, they have helped fund both sides in many major struggles and kept all the 'profits' I guess as long as they make money ethics count for nothing?
The nationalistic posturing is sickening, either we all get along or we all go to hell (whatever your own personal hell is?)
Religion and hypocritical religious beliefs have caused more murder than any land or resources battles. It's widely speculated that Pearl Harbor was known about by the president but allowing it to happen made the American people 'want revenge' as they didn't give a shit about a few million Jews, dissidents and gays being murdered.
Unfortunately, way too many people pretend to be Christian but have no intention of ever following the 'teachings' of their cult leader.
Just about all 'major' religions are hypocrites with zero religious beliefs, Muslims, Christians and Jews all beleive in the exact same god but won't follow any 'new testament' 'rules' relying on old testament myths to justify their actions
Oh, and as for Afghanistan, no one has ever conquered the damn place, all the way back to Alexander the Great the people have been 'terrorists' to invaders
Years ago, Oliver North was asked who was greatest threat to world peace. At the time, he said Osama Bin Laden, because 'we' trained him (I think it was along time before he was the 'fall guy'?)
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Message 1800890 - Posted: 5 Jul 2016, 6:15:44 UTC - in response to Message 1800736.  

The game has changed ...
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/07/saudi-arabia-qatif-explosion-160704165007140.html
Saudi Arabia: Explosions near Medina and Qatif mosques

Suicide blast reported at Prophet's Mosque in Medina as witnesses say body parts of presumed bomber seen in Qatif.


Two explosions have struck near a mosque in the eastern Saudi Arabian city of Qatif, residents say.

Saudi-owned al-Arabiya TV also reported a suicide explosion near the security headquarters of the Prophet's Mosque in Medina.

In Qatif, on the Gulf coast, witnesses said a suicide bomber blew himself up outside a Shia mosque on Monday evening without causing any other injuries.

They reported seeing body parts lying on the ground in the city's business district.

"Suicide bomber for sure. I can see the body" which was blasted to pieces, a resident told the AFP news agency.

Nasima al-Sada, another resident, told AFP that "one bomber blew himself up near the mosque", frequented by Shia Muslims in downtown Qatif, on the Gulf coast.

Another witness told Reuters news agency that one explosion destroyed a car parked near a mosque, followed by another explosion just before 7pm local time.

"We are in the last 10 days of Ramadan and those places are crowded because of that for Maghreb [sunset] prayers," Khaled Batarfi, a Saudi Gazette columnist, told Al Jazeera.

Early on Monday morning, two security officers were injured as a suicide bomber blew himself up near the US consulate in the Red Sea port city of Jeddah.

The House of Saud will be drawn into the civil war now.

Finally Saudi closed "the pipe"...

But feeling sorry for the people killed...all things have costs, some more than other!

Hope we all prevail this endeavor of getting those people!
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Message 1801009 - Posted: 6 Jul 2016, 2:42:25 UTC
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ISIS release 'nasheed' style video with child terrorists.
I wonder why they sing in french...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBLvmOwDpwA
Islamic State launches mobile app for children
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2016/05/islamic-state-launches-mobile-app-for-children.php

The Nasheed, "My Nation, Dawn Has Appeared".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nIN6Ciw1Ws
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Message 1801024 - Posted: 6 Jul 2016, 4:12:46 UTC

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/07/saudi-arabia-attacks-king-salman-160705180410649.html
Saudi King Salman vows 'iron fist' against attackers
Monday's Medina attack, which killed four policemen, followed suicide bombings in Jeddah and eastern city of Qatif.


Saudi Arabia's King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud has vowed that his government will "strike with an iron fist", a day after a series of bombings hit the country.

Four security guards were killed on Monday outside the Prophet's Mosque in Medina, Islam's second holiest site, as suicide attackers also struck two other cities.

"The kingdom is fully determined to strike with an iron fist all those who aim at the minds or ideas of our dear young people," Salman said on Tuesday, in an address to the nation for the Islamic feast of Eid al-Fitr.

The Medina attack, 24 hours before the end of the fasting month of Ramadan, drew condemnation from Muslim leaders worldwide.

The Al Saud ruling family considers itself the protectors of Islam's holiest sites, Medina and Mecca.

Following the attack, Mohammed bin Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz, Saudi's crown prince who is spearheading the country's anti-terror efforts, visited wounded victims, as he sought to reassure Saudis that the country's security "is at its highest levels".

"I know confronting terror operations is not simple. The simple repercussions you feel following the explosion will go away. I’ve been through this experience before and I [understand] how you feel," Al Arabiya TV quoted him as saying.

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Message 1801309 - Posted: 7 Jul 2016, 16:37:59 UTC - in response to Message 1801024.  

So, Saudi is finally going to do something instead of sitting on the fence as they have the last 16 yrs?
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Message 1801311 - Posted: 7 Jul 2016, 17:09:08 UTC - in response to Message 1801309.  

So, Saudi is finally going to do something instead of sitting on the fence as they have the last 16 yrs?

It appears as if they have been forced into action. One could imagine the reaction if this had been in Mecca during the Haj, something I'm sure they are planning.
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Message 1803528 - Posted: 19 Jul 2016, 21:48:08 UTC
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D.A.E.SH is a transliteration of the Arabic acronym formed of the same words that make up I.S.I.S in English.
But this is news for me:)
Daesh is also an Arabic word in its own right (rather than an acronym) meaning ‘a group of bigots who impose their will on others’
https://www.freewordcentre.com/explore/daesh-isis-media-alice-guthrie

Whatever. Here is some one who is specialized in checking garbage bins for secret documents and Daesh laptops.
1/ Hi all, I was traveling around 2day with no wifi &my internet will be gone again soon. But I have few thoughts on #Wuerzburg. @akhbar
2/ After each attack claimed by ISIS, there is a discussion: is Isis claiming all attacks in world? Did they really organize/ inspire this?
3/ I'll explain how ISIS claim of responsibility works &how they developed tactic not related 2 our conventional understanding of terrorism.
4/ When ISIS claims attack, group doesnt distinguish between attacks planned/ resourced by them or inspired attacks. For them its all same.
5/ What world traditionally considers terror attack is when member of group gets training, money, orders from leadership 2 carry out attack.
6/ This is old school thinking. Throw it out of window when talking about ISIS. ISIS uniqueness is that any1 anywhere can be their soldier.
7/ For #ISIS, religious credentials dont matter. You could be a pious sheikh or night club bouncer who wants 'to repent for sinful life'.
8/ For #ISIS, pledge of allegiance is fluid. U can pledge allegiance openly on Twitter/ Facebook or secretly without ever announcing it.
9/ Pledge of allegiance doesnt need to be official statement. Anyone can even just mumble it 2 himself seconds b4 committing terror attack.
10/ Location of attack also fluid with ISIS. Group realizes not every sympathizer can reach 'caliphate' esp after closure of Turkish border.
11/ So #ISIS asks followers 2carry out attacks in "land of infidels". They know impact of attack in West is bigger than any blast in Syria.
12/ All #ISIS Arabic channels that I check emphasize importance of carrying attacks in West. For ISIS, hitting 'Crusaders' has extra value.
13/ For #ISIS also target is open. They have no problem in attacking civilians. Man, women, kids. All the same. The more victims the better.
14/ For #ISIS also choice of weapon not defined. It's up to attacker. If no gun or bomb available, use car, knife, poison, fire etc etc.
15/ Basically, any1 at any time at any place with no training, religious knowledge or direct link w/ ISIS-core can b 'soldier of caliphate'.
16/ So we can talk about it as much as we want but when it comes to terror, #ISIS tactic is same as the famous slogan: "Just do it".
17/ For above reasons, it is so difficult to stop these #ISIS guys on time. Or to come up with an effective strategy to combat them.
18/ And while the world discusses after each attack if this is inspired or organized, #ISIS & followers already preparing for next move.
19/ Whether attack is organized or inspired, result deadly. W/organized ones, there's chance of tapping phones/emails 2 stop attack on time.
20/ With inspired attacks/lone wolf, there is no phone, no email, no discussed plan... It's only about terrorist involved. Difficult 2 stop.
21/ I hope this thread is helpful to make u understand a bit better how ISIS works. Have 2 run now. No net anymore. Thanks for ur attention.
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Message 1803551 - Posted: 19 Jul 2016, 23:27:49 UTC - in response to Message 1803528.  

I wish 'Daesh' would become the universal word used. A universally excepted label for a common enemy.

Using 'ISIS' in it self validates they are/have a state.

They do/are not, they occupy sovereign territory with their version of Marshal Law.

Why Isis will hate it if we start calling them Daesh

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