It is your long rich history to take up arms against each other over minor petty differences.

Hmmm. Please explain.
There are countries here in Europe that haven't taking up arms for more than 200 years.

Why yes, I'd expect Andorra, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, the Holy See and Monaco not to have taken up arms recently, because they couldn't win if they did. As to the far north there hasn't been much resources to exploit until oil and fishing rights in the most recent of times. The rest however has been run like the nominee of the tea wants to run the USA, totally xenophobic nationalism without compromise; will start lots of wars over nothing.

As to the period of history, time scale back to the dark ages would be appropriate. It is only post WWII that many governments have appreciably changed from how things ran at the end of the dark ages. Some sooner, some later.

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There is however some dark pages in our history.
We let German soldier pass through Sweden on their way to Norway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_of_German_troops_through_Finland_and_Sweden

Was the above, and the enabling the Armament Factory's of the NAZI War Machine.
An effort not to become another Norway? An enrichment of your economy? Perhaps both?
Lack of any engagement in Wars. Does not necessarily connote moral superiority.

Actually we supplied both the Nazi Germany with iron ore and Britain with artillary componments at the same time.

Engagement in WWII.
Well. We could have been occupied like Norway and Denmark.
The choice is not a moral one. More like a pragmatic one.

Finland was also in this mess.
First fighting the Russians in 1939.
Then came the Germans.
After that the Russians came again!

It is your long rich history to take up arms against each other over minor petty differences.

Hmmm. Please explain.
There are countries here in Europe that haven't taking up arms for more than 200 years.

Why yes, I'd expect Andorra, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, the Holy See and Monaco not to have taken up arms recently, because they couldn't win if they did. As to the far north there hasn't been much resources to exploit until oil and fishing rights in the most recent of times. The rest however has been run like the nominee of the tea wants to run the USA, totally xenophobic nationalism without compromise; will start lots of wars over nothing.

As to the period of history, time scale back to the dark ages would be appropriate. It is only post WWII that many governments have appreciably changed from how things ran at the end of the dark ages. Some sooner, some later.

You forgot Switzerland and Sweden:)
Never mind.
That we in Europe now having a growing xenophobic nationalism is unfortunately true.
Both the western Europe and Russia:(

But a war in Europe...
Well that depends on a certain eastern europe country!
Yes. Russia are still fighting in Ukraine despite the Minsk II agreement!

If you trade with the NAZI's during WWII (Guess who):

Clyde what country took in NAZI'S after the war (operation PAPERCLIP )
so America int perfect and most probably just as bad or even worse .
Werner Von Bran he got you to the moon but wern't he a NAZI and a SS officer and his number two ~Deivers , thinki he was number 2 at NASA he was in the SS .
They try to write these uncomfortable FACTS out of official history , shame people remember these things !!!

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Life is what you make of it :-)

When i'm good i'm very good , but when i'm bad i'm shi#eloads better ;-) In't I " buttercups " p.m.s.l at authoritie !!;-)

As to the period of history, time scale back to the dark ages would be appropriate. It is only post WWII that many governments have appreciably changed from how things ran at the end of the dark ages. Some sooner, some later.

Ah yes post WWII, interesting how they changed :-)

List of wars post WWII

Funny thing is here...the 2 nations involved the most in those just happens to be the USA & UK.

The list is only to 1989.

Since 1990...

...hmmn...

If you trade with the NAZI's during WWII (Guess who):

Clyde what country took in NAZI'S after the war (operation PAPERCLIP )
so America int perfect and most probably just as bad or even worse .
Werner Von Bran he got you to the moon but wern't he a NAZI and a SS officer and his number two ~Deivers , thinki he was number 2 at NASA he was in the SS .
They try to write these uncomfortable FACTS out of official history , shame people remember these things !!!

Adding this uncomfortable fact
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun#Slave_labor

but we're talking about "the Good guys" & the Allied forces...that also did some horrific events!
nobody was held accountable for it...why?

Since when do "the good guy's/ Winners" etc put themselfs on trial ? . The Second world war was over 70 years ago . All sides commited "crimes" and some got away with them U.S.A / Operation Paperclip for starters .
The main thing is you learn from history and what's happend and try not to let things repeat themselfs .
Things happen you can't change them but you can learn from them

is crime committed by policeman still a crime?

is a war-crime committed by a winner, still a crime?

http://41.media.tumblr.com/3c36b8eca836c19bb77c8c5f16c44ad8/tumblr_navu1gMRbW1s9rx9zo2_400.jpg

It is your long rich history to take up arms against each other over minor petty differences.

Hmmm. Please explain.
There are countries here in Europe that haven't taking up arms for more than 200 years.

Well...

If you trade with the NAZI's during WWII (Guess who):

No need to have a war. To defend yourselves, or be conquered.

Is making 'excessive profits' from the NAZI's. IE: American, British and Non-Combatant Country's Capitalist's. Also a War Crime?

If not: Immoral?

again, check some of the wealthiest US citizens & oil US companies about trading oil in WWII to NAZI!

you also, didn't put those people on trial...
:P

If you trade with the NAZI's during WWII (Guess who):

Clyde what country took in NAZI'S after the war (operation PAPERCLIP )
so America int perfect and most probably just as bad or even worse .
Werner Von Bran he got you to the moon but wern't he a NAZI and a SS officer and his number two ~Deivers , thinki he was number 2 at NASA he was in the SS .
They try to write these uncomfortable FACTS out of official history , shame people remember these things !!!

+1

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But... The fading American Empire was not as bad, as most Empire's were.

Good luck with the emerging New Empires.

Gt Britain DID rule most of the world last century but since that time is long gone now it's history , were as America thinks it runs the world and thats the main reason your country is so hated , Bay of pigs , Vietnam , Afganistan etc think there's a bit of a patten i can see 11/9 (day ,month then year!!) wonder why that occured ? (sarcasam!!).
Last Time Britain was great is basicly the Falklands conflict , your President Ronny raygun told Maggie Thatcher don't worry about that place but Maggie told him "Their British citizens" and she sent the Vulcans down 7000 miles on a mission . They got there and one bomb put the runway out of action and the Argentines knew Britain wernt fu#king around and we ment buisness . Couldn't do that nowadays ain't got the equiptment and NONE of the politicians have got the balls.

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Life is what you make of it :-)

When i'm good i'm very good , but when i'm bad i'm shi#eloads better ;-) In't I " buttercups " p.m.s.l at authoritie !!;-)

If you trade with the NAZI's during WWII (Guess who):

Clyde what country took in NAZI'S after the war (operation PAPERCLIP )
so America int perfect and most probably just as bad or even worse .
Werner Von Bran he got you to the moon but wern't he a NAZI and a SS officer and his number two ~Deivers , thinki he was number 2 at NASA he was in the SS .
They try to write these uncomfortable FACTS out of official history , shame people remember these things !!!

Mark...

Nothing 'Uncomfortable'. We just behaved, as all Empires do. In our Self-Interest.

Which just happened to be in the Self-Interest of Western Europe. An area of the world that had economically collapsed. Western Europe couldn't protect its International Trade, nor the threat from a barbaric Marxist regime.

Western Europe prospered under the American Military and Economic Umbrella.

Mark...

I have never condoned, nor still condoning America's Sins.

But... The fading American Empire was not as bad, as most Empire's were.

Good luck with the emerging New Empires.

Hmmm.
I have some problem with your history telling.
There are some major milestones in the 21th century in Europe.
There is pre WW1, then ceasefire including depression and then post WWII.
Where does the American Empire fit in, in that timeline?

"Western Europe prospered under the American Military and Economic Umbrella."
Does the Marshall plan ring a bell?
The reason for the plan was to avoid more wars in Europe.
The largest recipient of Marshall Plan money was the United Kingdom (receiving about 26% of the total), followed by France (18%) and West Germany (11%).

Since I travelled a lot in Europe in the late 60's and early 70's it was easy to see that it was only Germany, Switzerland and Sweden that was the "rich" countries.
Other parts of Europe didn't prosper at all!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan#Modern_criticism

As to the period of history, time scale back to the dark ages would be appropriate. It is only post WWII that many governments have appreciably changed from how things ran at the end of the dark ages. Some sooner, some later.

Ah yes post WWII, interesting how they changed :-)

List of wars post WWII

Funny thing is here...the 2 nations involved the most in those just happens to be the USA & UK.

The list is only to 1989.

Since 1990...

...hmmn...

And how many were in Europe? Greek civil war. Soviet invasions. ???
Brexit and that list would have 1/2 of them in Europe.

Get used to your polygamous marriage to the EU.

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You know? If I didn't know better I would think that the UK is still PO'ed because we were the only country to beat them for our independence. Hence the U.S.A. bashing for what has been done by many other countries for centuries. ;)

Go figure. ;)

I'm not sayin' that I fully agree with everything my country does; on the contrary. I'm just sayin' that if any country's history shows some or all of the same type of events, don't bash my country for what yours has done.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

I belive there was a "special relationshp " between our two country's but Bush and Blair put a end to that (Blair with his head up Baby Bush's ar#e) . I've got family in America my Auntie married a American when he was stationd at RAF Bentwaters near to where i live and get on fine with the relations over your side of the pond , Oh my Uncle is a American Indian just so you know .

The next Empires will be your enemy. And will commit worse acts.

Unfortunatly i think you're correct there but that goes for most country's not just Britain . Who knows what the future holds but way i see things they wont get any better soon

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Life is what you make of it :-)

When i'm good i'm very good , but when i'm bad i'm shi#eloads better ;-) In't I " buttercups " p.m.s.l at authoritie !!;-)

They try to write these uncomfortable FACTS out of official history , shame people remember these things !!!

Really?
Whose history?
I knew of this.
So, not mine.

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Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.

They try to write these uncomfortable FACTS out of official history , shame people remember these things !!!

Really?
Whose history?
I knew of this.
So, not mine.

Yes, it was required to prevent Britain from gaining scientific knowledge. Yes, special relationship.

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If you trade with the NAZI's during WWII (Guess who):

Clyde what country took in NAZI'S after the war (operation PAPERCLIP )
so America int perfect and most probably just as bad or even worse .
Werner Von Bran he got you to the moon but wern't he a NAZI and a SS officer and his number two ~Deivers , thinki he was number 2 at NASA he was in the SS .
They try to write these uncomfortable FACTS out of official history , shame people remember these things !!!

Mark...

Nothing 'Uncomfortable'. We just behaved, as all Empires do. In our Self-Interest.

Which just happened to be in the Self-Interest of Western Europe. An area of the world that had economically collapsed. Western Europe couldn't protect its International Trade, nor the threat from a barbaric Marxist regime.

Western Europe prospered under the American Military and Economic Umbrella.

Mark...

I have never condoned, nor still condoning America's Sins.

But... The fading American Empire was not as bad, as most Empire's were.

Good luck with the emerging New Empires.

then you're BLIND to the history!

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Well, can't have good feeling towards NATO partner that decides that Langley-guys should change the government in partner country!

& why are you blind?
'cause you don't see that America should have apologize for:
1. Hiroshima & Nagasaki
2. Dresden & Tokyo
3. making of Osama bin-Laden
4. making of ISIL
;)

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'cause you don't see that America should have apologize for:
1. Hiroshima & Nagasaki
2. Dresden & Tokyo
3. making of Osama bin-Laden
4. making of ISIL

1. Do you have it in your mind that perhaps Japan should also apologize for Pearl Harbor? Or is this just more of your U.S.A. bashing?

2. Do you have it in your mind that perhaps Germany should apologize to the whole of Europe? And Tokyo? (see #1 above) Or is this just more of your U.S.A. bashing?

3. How do you figure the U.S.A made bin-Laden?

4. I know of ISIS. I have never heard of ISIL. ???

Why do I have this nagging feeling that you are trolling?

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

4. I know of ISIS. I have never heard of ISIL. ???

It's only SSDN, Same Stuff Different Name (polite form).
http://www.ibtimes.com/isil-isis-islamic-state-daesh-whats-difference-2187131
I don't know why the americans are so fond of acronyms but in the case DAESH it's understable.
It's stand for “al-Dawla al-Islamiya fi al-Iraq wa al-Sham.”

Ramadan just started. Time for contemplation and beeing extra kind to our fellow man:)
It's also difficult to make war on a empty stomach.

Euro Football starts on Friday.
French government advice on what to do during a terrorist attack.


I get flashbacks from the 60's.
"If the war comes"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_the_war_comes

"If the War comes" was delivered to every single household in Sweden from 1943 to 1991. The most important parts of the publication was, alongside the distribution of the pamphlet, inserted at the last part of all Swedish phone books. The publication contained information about how to act in a situation of national crisis and most notably, nuclear war.

-[ snip ]-
'cause you don't see that America should have apologize for:
1. Hiroshima & Nagasaki
2. Dresden & Tokyo
3. making of Osama bin-Laden
4. making of ISIL

1. Do you have it in your mind that perhaps Japan should also apologize for Pearl Harbor? Or is this just more of your U.S.A. bashing?

2. Do you have it in your mind that perhaps Germany should apologize to the whole of Europe? And Tokyo? (see #1 above) Or is this just more of your U.S.A. bashing?

3. How do you figure the U.S.A made bin-Laden?

4. I know of ISIS. I have never heard of ISIL. ???

Why do I have this nagging feeling that you are trolling?

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

1. again, you should really learn some history...check here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan

2. maybe you should also keep reading more...here are some of "your press":
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/08/13/germany-won-respect-by-addressing-its-world-war-ii-crimes-japan-not-so-much/
https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-examples-of-crimes-countries-have-apologized-for
then again, Germany did go to trial:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Axis_personnel_indicted_for_war_crimes
When did anyone went to trial for Dresden or Tokyo?

3. check out the start of "Charlie Wilson war"...who did CIA recruit & train to fight Russians! ;)

4. ISIS, ISIL...same thing, different insignia around a World!


Why?
I told you...when Langley-guys stop destabilizing Government of NATO partner!

Maybe you should write to them & ask them what are they doing? ;)

Well, can't have good feeling towards NATO partner that decides that Langley-guys should change the government in partner country!

& why are you blind?
'cause you don't see that America should have apologize for:
1. Hiroshima & Nagasaki
2. Dresden & Tokyo
3. making of Osama bin-Laden
4. making of ISIL
;)

KLiK...

Please compare your list, to the list I requested from you. Regarding other Empires in History.

If you cannot... We must conclude you are just posting from Historical Ignorance.

Please prove us wrong.

BTW: 'Ignorance' does not mean stupid.

ig·no·rance

ˈiɡnərəns/

noun

lack of knowledge or information.

I'm not asking other Empires...I'm asking USA!

'cause you seem to be doing most of the shit around a World...going to places & destabilizing them all over the place! leaving them in ruins & hoping nothing will come back out of that...

But from time to tome "something" comes back & bite you...like the snake you left in 80's after Charlie Wilson war, bite you on 9/11!
Like ISIS is biting you back, after Iraq & Syria destabilizing...

Until your minds change, you will get the same results!
;)

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