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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30648 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
And doesn't have the connotations that it can have over your way :-)It would not be said if it did not have the connotations. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
And doesn't have the connotations that it can have over your way :-) I beg to differ , over here the Victorians are not considered lesser than New south Welshmen and is only used after the song South of the border down Mexico way where he met his true love . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZYPa6tI43Q Jean Audrey So I say no connotations over here :-) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
And doesn't have the connotations that it can have over your way :-)It would not be said if it did not have the connotations. Gary, over here that is used in the context of a joke, but you'd have to be an Aussie (or Kiwi) to to truly understand where the joke is really pointed. ;-) We're a socially humorous lot down in this corner of the world, and we are a true melting pot of people from all corners of the world, so we have jokes and sayings about everything (how else would we entertain ourselves while having a good time?). Cheers. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
A bit off topic but some trivia One of our most revered comic's whom starred in the infamous (at lest it is infamous in America ) show Called Hey Hey it's Saturday Night and there infamous Red Faces part , Bert Newton , almost got a punch in the face from Ali at the T.V week logies awards (bit like your Oscars) when Bert says "I like the boy " after Ali says something funny , Ali looks at him and Bert new he said something wrong and the director of the shows tells Bert you can't say that . Bert say "what's wrong with that" . What is said in one country does not all ways mean what it may be said in America or have the connotations it may over your way . Here is the link to the 1978 clip . Ali was fantastic and a real class act and it is very funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWKyDGGptA4 |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Yes Jan that is true but then if your any good you shouldn't get to many blows to the head . Champions dont get so many blows to the head. Ali 56 wins and 2 loss Ingo 26 wins and 2 loss Floyd 55 wins and 8 loss To me however that you get brain damages from sports like boxing must be obvious. It's a repeating injury to your brain. Other sports are accidently. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
To me however that you get brain damages from sports like boxing must be obvious Well that is the point of why it's not banned . You know the risk when you step into the ring , Yes can get killed not just brain damage . That goes for any sport F1 , GP , down hill skying , luge , Rugby , Soccer , Drag Racing , Water speed boats , Skydiving Where do you stop ...Ban all sport ? There Dangerous and that's why people do them as well as the accolades that come with them . |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
A bit off topic but some trivia I remember sawing Jörn Donner meeting Ali:) Jörn was a journalist and later member of the Finland Parlaiment. The two of them should have a "heavy weight talkshow" in a sport arena in Stockholm. It never happened though. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19059 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
That goes for any sport F1 , GP , down hill skying , luge , Rugby , Soccer , Drag Racing , Water speed boats , Skydiving Yes those are all sports with danger, but they are not sports where the head is a specified target as it is in boxing. Or a sport where the head is (was) used as a offensive weapon, as in American Football. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
That goes for any sport F1 , GP , down hill skying , luge , Rugby , Soccer , Drag Racing , Water speed boats , Skydiving I have seen live on TV athlets both in alpine downhill skiing and cycling in Tour de France that both died because of head injuries. The skier Ulrike Maier had a helmet but that got stuck in a safety net and her neck was broken. Now that was accidents, not like in boxing where you aim to the head! |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
That goes for any sport F1 , GP , down hill skying , luge , Rugby , Soccer , Drag Racing , Water speed boats , Skydiving Judo , Ta Kwon Do , Karate all have hits to the head MMA even more so and the idea is to wilfully hit someone in the head to knock them out You hope you don't do serious damage but the idea is to hurt them . |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30648 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
And doesn't have the connotations that it can have over your way :-)It would not be said if it did not have the connotations. Much racism is expressed in the form of a joke. It is called institutional racism. The speakers swear they don't mean anything by it, but it wouldn't resonate [be funny] if they didn't. It still stings to the culture being made fun of. |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
Boxing should be illegal. I totally agree, plus we should all do what is necessary to eliminate the social economic conditions in place that make it necessary for young people to be forced to use fight sports to get ahead in this wonderful caring system we have. Just think a fair society for all. Of course it will not happen, and people will always complain, but they will soon forget the issue. After all life is a busy thing to peruse and one can't do everything. edit: One wonders how much plebeian blood it takes to make them comfortable.... |
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Let's stop all!!! Yep. Figured A CONTROLLER you beeezzz. Every now and then. Your 100% correct. I Figured Right about YouZZZ Bein' A CONTROLLER. 100 Percent RIGHT. Same As It Ever Is. BOXING or Any Other HEAD BANGING Sport. If THEY WANT IT, IT Shall be THEIR CHOICE, and OUR CHOICE to Watch. YapYapYapparOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOski. May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
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Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
Illegal? I don't know the answer to that question. Personally, at the age of 59, I find myself dealing with the consequences of a lifetime spent playing football. There's no telling how many thousands of times my poor little brain was slightly or heavily scrambled in the years 1967 to 1984. I came up when the helmet was used as a weapon by us linemen during every play and the head slap, or forearm club, was permitted. Form tackling was the preferred method of attack on the ball carrier, which is to say, driving one's forehead into the chest or helmet of the person you were tackling to keep them from gaining that extra yard as they were going to the ground. Every play run during games and practices meant contact to the head if you played on either side of the ball in a line position. Little regard was given to brain injuries such as concussions in the old days and I either kept playing after getting my "bell rung" or was sent back in very quickly after the how many fingers am I holding up test. Do I regret playing? Sometimes I do. Would I ban these types of sports? No, but I'd support outlawing kids under the age of 15 participating and I'd take even greater care to oversee the treatment of head injuries. I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Strange that you in boxing according to the rules can hit a head and get many points but not hit under the belt... |
JLDun Send message Joined: 21 Apr 06 Posts: 573 Credit: 196,101 RAC: 0 |
That does stop a fight, though... |
Luigi Naruszewicz Send message Joined: 19 Nov 99 Posts: 620 Credit: 23,910,372 RAC: 14 |
The problem of banning boxing would just drive it underground, where there would little or no regulation, thus more deaths and injuries. One aspect not mention about boxing is that that boxing clubs are generally in deprived areas where young lads (and lasses) are taught discipline to control their aggression, and steer them away from life of crime and/or anti social behaviour. Though not a boxing fan, I believe that overall more good, than bad comes out of boxing. . A person who makes no mistakes, creates nothing. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Gooba Buddy! celttooth your a caveman so why are you against head banging sports don't cavemen use there club's to hit the female into submission when finding a mate ?? ops couldn't resist that one mate :-) |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19059 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
History shows 'smarter' football is no match for concussion, that's American style football. Rule changes and improved equipment have been offered as solutions, but the only way to avoid debilitating head injuries may be to not play football at all |
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