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Message 1793860 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 4:22:59 UTC - in response to Message 1793858.  

And doesn't have the connotations that it can have over your way :-)
It would not be said if it did not have the connotations.
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Message 1793862 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 4:35:54 UTC - in response to Message 1793860.  

And doesn't have the connotations that it can have over your way :-)
It would not be said if it did not have the connotations.


I beg to differ , over here the Victorians are not considered lesser than New south Welshmen and is only used after the song

South of the border down Mexico way where he met his true love .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZYPa6tI43Q Jean Audrey

So I say no connotations over here :-)
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Message 1793864 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 4:55:26 UTC - in response to Message 1793860.  

And doesn't have the connotations that it can have over your way :-)
It would not be said if it did not have the connotations.

Gary, over here that is used in the context of a joke, but you'd have to be an Aussie (or Kiwi) to to truly understand where the joke is really pointed. ;-)

We're a socially humorous lot down in this corner of the world, and we are a true melting pot of people from all corners of the world, so we have jokes and sayings about everything (how else would we entertain ourselves while having a good time?).

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Message 1793865 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 4:55:48 UTC

A bit off topic but some trivia

One of our most revered comic's whom starred in the infamous (at lest it is infamous in America ) show Called Hey Hey it's Saturday Night and there infamous Red Faces part ,

Bert Newton , almost got a punch in the face from Ali at the T.V week logies awards (bit like your Oscars) when Bert says "I like the boy " after Ali says something funny , Ali looks at him and Bert new he said something wrong and the director of the shows tells Bert you can't say that .

Bert say "what's wrong with that" . What is said in one country does not all ways mean what it may be said in America or have the connotations it may over your way .

Here is the link to the 1978 clip . Ali was fantastic and a real class act and it is very funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWKyDGGptA4
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Message 1793866 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 5:21:37 UTC - in response to Message 1793857.  

Yes Jan that is true but then if your any good you shouldn't get to many blows to the head .
That's what made Ali so good he was able to flout like a butterfly and sting like a bee and miss most of the blows only remember him going down once . I'm not so shore thou the Boxing caused his Parkinson's
Michael j .Fox didn't box and he has it so makes you wonder if it was the boxing or something else . I guess one day they will find a genetic reason for it . After all Huntington's gene wasn't found till 1993 even thou the disease was know for a long time before they found the genes that cause it .

Champions dont get so many blows to the head.
Ali 56 wins and 2 loss
Ingo 26 wins and 2 loss
Floyd 55 wins and 8 loss

To me however that you get brain damages from sports like boxing must be obvious.
It's a repeating injury to your brain.
Other sports are accidently.
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Message 1793867 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 5:38:12 UTC - in response to Message 1793866.  

To me however that you get brain damages from sports like boxing must be obvious


Well that is the point of why it's not banned .

You know the risk when you step into the ring , Yes can get killed not just brain damage .

That goes for any sport F1 , GP , down hill skying , luge , Rugby , Soccer , Drag Racing , Water speed boats , Skydiving

Where do you stop ...Ban all sport ?

There Dangerous and that's why people do them as well as the accolades that come with them .
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Message 1793868 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 5:39:25 UTC - in response to Message 1793865.  

A bit off topic but some trivia
Here is the link to the 1978 clip . Ali was fantastic and a real class act and it is very funny

I remember sawing Jörn Donner meeting Ali:)

Jörn was a journalist and later member of the Finland Parlaiment.
The two of them should have a "heavy weight talkshow" in a sport arena in Stockholm.
It never happened though.
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Message 1793869 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 5:47:05 UTC - in response to Message 1793867.  

That goes for any sport F1 , GP , down hill skying , luge , Rugby , Soccer , Drag Racing , Water speed boats , Skydiving
Where do you stop ...Ban all sport ?

Yes those are all sports with danger, but they are not sports where the head is a specified target as it is in boxing. Or a sport where the head is (was) used as a offensive weapon, as in American Football.
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Message 1793871 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 6:00:36 UTC - in response to Message 1793867.  

That goes for any sport F1 , GP , down hill skying , luge , Rugby , Soccer , Drag Racing , Water speed boats , Skydiving
Where do you stop ...Ban all sport ?

I have seen live on TV athlets both in alpine downhill skiing and cycling in Tour de France that both died because of head injuries.
The skier Ulrike Maier had a helmet but that got stuck in a safety net and her neck was broken.
Now that was accidents, not like in boxing where you aim to the head!
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Message 1793881 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 7:04:49 UTC - in response to Message 1793871.  

That goes for any sport F1 , GP , down hill skying , luge , Rugby , Soccer , Drag Racing , Water speed boats , Skydiving
Where do you stop ...Ban all sport ?

I have seen live on TV athlets both in alpine downhill skiing and cycling in Tour de France that both died because of head injuries.
The skier Ulrike Maier had a helmet but that got stuck in a safety net and her neck was broken.
Now that was accidents, not like in boxing where you aim to the head!


Judo , Ta Kwon Do , Karate all have hits to the head MMA even more so and the idea is to wilfully hit someone in the head to knock them out

You hope you don't do serious damage but the idea is to hurt them .
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Message 1793977 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 14:50:31 UTC - in response to Message 1793864.  

And doesn't have the connotations that it can have over your way :-)
It would not be said if it did not have the connotations.

Gary, over here that is used in the context of a joke, but you'd have to be an Aussie (or Kiwi) to to truly understand where the joke is really pointed. ;-)

We're a socially humorous lot down in this corner of the world, and we are a true melting pot of people from all corners of the world, so we have jokes and sayings about everything (how else would we entertain ourselves while having a good time?).

Cheers.

Much racism is expressed in the form of a joke. It is called institutional racism. The speakers swear they don't mean anything by it, but it wouldn't resonate [be funny] if they didn't. It still stings to the culture being made fun of.
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Message 1794011 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 16:53:53 UTC - in response to Message 1793283.  

Boxing should be illegal.


I totally agree, plus we should all do what is
necessary to eliminate the social economic conditions
in place that make it necessary for young people to be
forced to use fight sports to get ahead in this wonderful
caring system we have. Just think a fair society for all.
Of course it will not happen, and people will always complain,
but they will soon forget the issue. After all life is a busy
thing to peruse and one can't do everything.



edit:
One wonders how much plebeian blood it takes to make them comfortable....

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Message 1794043 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 18:11:38 UTC

Let's stop all!!!


Yep. Figured A CONTROLLER you beeezzz.

Every now and then. Your 100% correct.


I Figured Right about YouZZZ Bein' A CONTROLLER. 100 Percent RIGHT.

Same As It Ever Is.

BOXING or Any Other HEAD BANGING Sport. If THEY WANT IT, IT Shall be THEIR CHOICE, and OUR CHOICE to Watch.

YapYapYapparOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOski.

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 1794050 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 18:29:47 UTC

Gooba Buddy!
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Message 1794277 - Posted: 7 Jun 2016, 21:56:35 UTC

Illegal?
I don't know the answer to that question.
Personally, at the age of 59, I find myself dealing with the consequences of a lifetime spent playing football. There's no telling how many thousands of times my poor little brain was slightly or heavily scrambled in the years 1967 to 1984.

I came up when the helmet was used as a weapon by us linemen during every play and the head slap, or forearm club, was permitted.
Form tackling was the preferred method of attack on the ball carrier, which is to say, driving one's forehead into the chest or helmet of the person you were tackling to keep them from gaining that extra yard as they were going to the ground.

Every play run during games and practices meant contact to the head if you played on either side of the ball in a line position.
Little regard was given to brain injuries such as concussions in the old days and I either kept playing after getting my "bell rung" or was sent back in very quickly after the how many fingers am I holding up test.

Do I regret playing? Sometimes I do.
Would I ban these types of sports? No, but I'd support outlawing kids under the age of 15 participating and I'd take even greater care to oversee the treatment of head injuries.
I do not fight fascists because I think I can win.
I fight them because they are fascists.
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Message 1794279 - Posted: 7 Jun 2016, 22:20:48 UTC

Strange that you in boxing according to the rules can hit a head and get many points but not hit under the belt...
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Message 1794319 - Posted: 8 Jun 2016, 1:58:49 UTC - in response to Message 1794279.  

That does stop a fight, though...
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Message 1796084 - Posted: 14 Jun 2016, 11:52:13 UTC

The problem of banning boxing would just drive it underground, where there would little or no regulation, thus more deaths and injuries.

One aspect not mention about boxing is that that boxing clubs are generally in deprived areas where young lads (and lasses) are taught discipline to control their aggression, and steer them away from life of crime and/or anti social behaviour.

Though not a boxing fan, I believe that overall more good, than bad comes out of boxing.
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Message 1796246 - Posted: 15 Jun 2016, 3:49:27 UTC - in response to Message 1794050.  

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celttooth your a caveman so why are you against head banging sports don't cavemen use there club's to hit the female into submission when finding a mate ??

ops couldn't resist that one mate :-)
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Message 1799668 - Posted: 30 Jun 2016, 15:25:31 UTC

History shows 'smarter' football is no match for concussion, that's American style football.

Rule changes and improved equipment have been offered as solutions, but the only way to avoid debilitating head injuries may be to not play football at all
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