Get well soon. And they can play havoc with blood sugar control.

I had no idea. Thanks for that info.

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~Sue~

Get well soon. And they can play havoc with blood sugar control.

I had no idea. Thanks for that info.

Frequently because you feel so bad you go off diet and don't get the normal amount of exercise doing things. Not so much because of things you may take to relieve symptoms, but ask your Doctor what is okay and what to avoid.

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Blood glucose was a whopping 159 this morning. I went to bed very early
yesterday so I hadn't eaten anything for at least 12 hours. I wonder if
that was it.

I'm trying to think about what I ate before I went to bed. I don't think
I had any carbs/sugars.

This is still a learning experience for me.

I'm really bad at writing things down, like what I ate. It would sure help
if I did keep better track of my food. I'm careful to stay within limits, but
if I don't write things down, I quickly forget.

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~Sue~

Blood glucose was a whopping 159 this morning. I went to bed very early
yesterday so I hadn't eaten anything for at least 12 hours. I wonder if
that was it.

I'm trying to think about what I ate before I went to bed. I don't think
I had any carbs/sugars.

This is still a learning experience for me.

I'm really bad at writing things down, like what I ate. It would sure help
if I did keep better track of my food. I'm careful to stay within limits, but
if I don't write things down, I quickly forget.

Many diabetics will go up when they sleep. The liver releases sugar into the blood. A contributing factor might be a large protein rich meal as it takes some time for the body to process protein into sugar. Diabetics are told not to worry about protein as the process from eating to sugar is a long slow one.

Also the general suggestion to everyone not to eat a large meal just before bed if you don't want to gain weight applies.

Oh, the liver release happens all the time, but in the day you are at least minimally active so you burn off the sugar.

As a personal aside, if I get crappy sleep or not enough I tend to be higher in the morning than if I get a good deep sleep.

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Gary, your contributions to this thread are high quality!!!

Thank you for so generously sharing your insights and expertise.

My mother was a diabetic who didn't work at things much. She paid for that in her later years. I salute those of you who are working so hard to get a handle on this challenging disorder.

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[quote]Gary, your contributions to this thread are high quality!!!

Thank you for so generously sharing your insights and expertise.

+1

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Gary, your contributions to this thread are high quality!!!

Thank you for so generously sharing your insights and expertise.

+2

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~Sue~

Even higher glucose the next day (June 30). I think the high protein is
indeed the culprit. Also, I had been eating a small snack at bedtime and
hadn't done that the nights before the high glucose reading.

I have something called Extend Nutrition bars (not to be confused with the
stuff that is supposed to make part of the male anatomy larger). These are
designed to control blood sugar for nine hours. If I eat one as a snack at
or near bedtime it helps to keep my morning glucose level down.

Extend Nutrition Bar Website

The berry and lemon flavors are very good.

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~Sue~

A much-welcomed 118 this morning. I ate one of those Extend bars at bedtime
yesterday.

What do you folks eat at night to keep your glucose from being high the
next morning? The Extend bars are great, but I'd really like to find something
a little less expensive.

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~Sue~

A much-welcomed 118 this morning. I ate one of those Extend bars at bedtime
yesterday.

What do you folks eat at night to keep your glucose from being high the
next morning? The Extend bars are great, but I'd really like to find something
a little less expensive.

I dont actually know Susie but something in my head tells me Muesli might be worth a try, and not too expensive.

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What do you folks eat at night to keep your glucose from being high the
next morning? The Extend bars are great, but I'd really like to find something
a little less expensive.

Dinner and nothing else, but water. But I try and have three hours between the end of the meal and bed to make sure my level comes down first. If I only get two hours I'll be a bit higher.

On the dinner I try and drop the carbs (white starch, pasta, potato, rice, bread) for veggies and other "good" stuff, but sometimes I'm bad. The key is to not overdo the bad.

If you must must have a late snack, see if you can train yourself to grab celery for it. Find some low low carb stuff to dip it in if you must. Or figure out if your body is craving something like salt and just supply that in moderation.

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What do you folks eat at night to keep your glucose from being high the
next morning? The Extend bars are great, but I'd really like to find something
a little less expensive.

Dinner and nothing else, but water. But I try and have three hours between the end of the meal and bed to make sure my level comes down first. If I only get two hours I'll be a bit higher.

On the dinner I try and drop the carbs (white starch, pasta, potato, rice, bread) for veggies and other "good" stuff, but sometimes I'm bad. The key is to not overdo the bad.

If you must must have a late snack, see if you can train yourself to grab celery for it. Find some low low carb stuff to dip it in if you must. Or figure out if your body is craving something like salt and just supply that in moderation.

It seems like this is exactly what was making my morning glucose level high. I
mentioned it on Facebook and my brother told me his wife, who is diabetic, had
the same problem at first. Then she realized that eating just a tiny snack
before bed kept her glucose level down. I asked what she eats and my brother
said just a few nuts - cashews, walnuts, peanuts, almonds. A small amount of
peanut butter may serve the same purpose.

It's not about needing a snack. It's about the glucose.

I wonder why it's different for you? Could different people react differently?

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~Sue~

I wonder why it's different for you? Could different people react differently?

YES

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If I wanted to bake, what would be the best flour to use? I know that
recipes for diabetic cakes, etc., use artificial sweeteners. Is there
one type of flour that is better than others? One that has fewer carbs?

Thanks!

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~Sue~

I have made some yummy things with coconut flour. A very low carb flour, since it's not from a grain.

From Bob's Red Mill Natural Foods: Organic coconut flour is a delicious, healthy alternative to wheat and other grain flours. Ground from dried, defatted coconut meat, coconut flour is high in fiber and low in digestible carbohydrates. A single 2 Tbsp serving of coconut flour delivers 5 grams of fiber with only 8 grams of carbs.

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I have made some yummy things with coconut flour. A very low carb flour, since it's not from a grain.

From Bob's Red Mill Natural Foods: Organic coconut flour is a delicious, healthy alternative to wheat and other grain flours. Ground from dried, defatted coconut meat, coconut flour is high in fiber and low in digestible carbohydrates. A single 2 Tbsp serving of coconut flour delivers 5 grams of fiber with only 8 grams of carbs.

So a total of 3 grams of carbs? (Total carbs minus fiber.)

I'll give it a try! Thank you, Carlos.

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~Sue~

I received my first issue of Diabetic Living (magazine) today. Fun times
ahead!

Diabetic Living Online

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~Sue~

Thursday July 28 2016, 8:05 AM

Diabetic Type 2 Peripheral Neuropathy Pain Meds...

Hi All,

Like I guess many of you, I'm stuck with diabetes. I minimize sugar as much as possible and try to eat healthy.

My main #1 'complaint' is not the diet restrictions, but the PAIN. My feet 'tingle' all the time as do my lower legs. Nothing at all my doctor has prescribed has helped one iota with the pain, including BIG TIME pain killer meds, up to and including vicodin and morphine. For me, these meds do not stop or reduce the tingle pain.

Therefore, my #1 thing is an on-going search for anything that will reduce or stop the pain.

As you likely know, many meds, both prescription, and over the counter types, are for sale on the net.

Over the past three years I've tried several. Here are the last two I tried:

GABAPENTIN and BENFOTIAMINE

The 1st is prescription only and the latter is 'over the counter.' Neither of these did ANYTHING whatsoever to reduce or stop the pain; Despite high praise for them on the net, likely by friends of the vendors, to me they were worthless. Maybe one may help you. But, if you try them, and feel no change after 2 to 4 weeks, even with a high dosage, save your money!

I wish others would post about pain killers here as they MAY work for some. This would be a good thing. :)


Stay here on Earth. It's the only planet with DARK CHOCOLATE !!

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River Song (aka Linda Latte on planet Earth)
"Happy I-Phone girl on the GO GO GO"

I find Gabapentin helps but what dose do you take? My Doctor started me on 900 mg 3 times per day. I found that was too much. Clouded my mind. I cut back to 600 mg twice a day and find that I am pain free 80% of the time. From time to time the pain is extreme. I have some prescription lidocaine patch that I can use for local relief. They will significantly reduce the pain but nothing seems to take it all away when it flairs up.
I find physical exercise is the best relief. If you feet hurt ride a bike. Get the blood flowing. Remember the pain is caused by the death of nerve cells due to reduced blood flow. Feed them cells.

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Thursday July 28 2016, 8:42 AM

Hi,
My doctor started me on 600 mg/day. 2+ weeks there was no relief at all. I was then told to take 900 mg 3 times/day. I did this for 2+ weeks with zero pain relief. :(

I am sad. :( Good suggestion on bike riding!

Thank you for posting...

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River Song (aka Linda Latte on planet Earth)
"Happy I-Phone girl on the GO GO GO"