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Message 1822969 - Posted: 9 Oct 2016, 14:39:22 UTC - in response to Message 1822921.  

come on replica! Breathe! (Need data for some code polishing :D)

Would be nice if someone in Berkeley at least let us know if they're working on it and/or what the issue might be. Then again, communicating useful information to the great unwashed masses is not their strong suit.

With Eric ill plus the longstanding manpower shortage it is quite understandable.
I really, really miss the replica.



Is Eric the only one who can add a message?
Has nobody had even 30 seconds during the last several days to at least acknowledge the issue?
Maybe they've found ET, decided they're not helpful, job done, shut down commenced, all gone home!

For a project so reliant on 'us' it sometimes appears that we are not deemed very important.

Well there is no full time SETI@home staff. They all have several other responsibilities to work on & may only allocate a few hours a week to work SETI@home stuff. They could spend that time working on the issue or telling us something is broken with an unknown time to fix. Which will have users posing more questions.
Also the replica database server isn't required to run the project. If it goes wonky for a while it isn't a problem. It does make it more difficult is users needing help troubleshooting any issues.
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Message 1823082 - Posted: 9 Oct 2016, 22:40:07 UTC - in response to Message 1822969.  

come on replica! Breathe! (Need data for some code polishing :D)

Would be nice if someone in Berkeley at least let us know if they're working on it and/or what the issue might be. Then again, communicating useful information to the great unwashed masses is not their strong suit.

With Eric ill plus the longstanding manpower shortage it is quite understandable.
I really, really miss the replica.



Is Eric the only one who can add a message?
Has nobody had even 30 seconds during the last several days to at least acknowledge the issue?
Maybe they've found ET, decided they're not helpful, job done, shut down commenced, all gone home!

For a project so reliant on 'us' it sometimes appears that we are not deemed very important.

Well there is no full time SETI@home staff. They all have several other responsibilities to work on & may only allocate a few hours a week to work SETI@home stuff. They could spend that time working on the issue or telling us something is broken with an unknown time to fix. Which will have users posing more questions.
Also the replica database server isn't required to run the project. If it goes wonky for a while it isn't a problem. It does make it more difficult is users needing help troubleshooting any issues.

There is a message on the front page

Replica database offline...
The replica database will be offline until we can restore it from the primary database on tuesday (at the earlies). This will result in slowness of the web site and the scheduler.
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Message 1823124 - Posted: 10 Oct 2016, 1:36:56 UTC - in response to Message 1823082.  

There is a message on the front page

Replica database offline...
The replica database will be offline until we can restore it from the primary database on tuesday (at the earlies). This will result in slowness of the web site and the scheduler.

Indeed. I hope Eric was actually feeling better & not just pressured to give us some info.
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Message 1823212 - Posted: 10 Oct 2016, 7:08:56 UTC - in response to Message 1823124.  

Indeed. I hope Eric was actually feeling better & not just pressured to give us some info


+1 to that

few more days don't matter least the project is putting work out etc , so what if the stats are screwy :-)
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Message 1823213 - Posted: 10 Oct 2016, 7:12:46 UTC - in response to Message 1823124.  

There is a message on the front page

Replica database offline...
The replica database will be offline until we can restore it from the primary database on tuesday (at the earlies). This will result in slowness of the web site and the scheduler.

Indeed. I hope Eric was actually feeling better & not just pressured to give us some info.



Hence my earlier question:

"Is Eric the only one who can add a message?"

If he is then surely that needs changing. Simple contingency planning.

If he isn't then why didn't anyone else take 30 seconds to give the update several days ago?

BTW Eric's note is exactly what was needed and I'm grateful for it.
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Message 1823258 - Posted: 10 Oct 2016, 11:29:57 UTC - in response to Message 1823213.  

There is a message on the front page

Replica database offline...
The replica database will be offline until we can restore it from the primary database on tuesday (at the earlies). This will result in slowness of the web site and the scheduler.

Indeed. I hope Eric was actually feeling better & not just pressured to give us some info.



Hence my earlier question:

"Is Eric the only one who can add a message?"

If he is then surely that needs changing. Simple contingency planning.

If he isn't then why didn't anyone else take 30 seconds to give the update several days ago?

BTW Eric's note is exactly what was needed and I'm grateful for it.

Jeff & DA can. However there schedules may prevent them from being able to do so.
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Message 1823457 - Posted: 11 Oct 2016, 0:50:55 UTC

Well then. Re: my previous post about a mounting bracket failure, it broke again, as everyone expected. There wasn't much material to hold onto, so it was a matter of time.

But, it gave me more time since then to brainstorm better ideas for fixes, and I came up with a pretty good one, and it feels sturdier than the original bracket was.



I found a short screw that has good sharp teeth on it, and took a wire staple and cut it to make a new tab and hold that down with the short screw. Seems pretty solid. I would expect the other bracket to break before this one does now.
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Message 1823586 - Posted: 12 Oct 2016, 0:48:00 UTC
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I notice that the stats export for Beta came back online, presumably after the outrage... may we hope that the production stats export will be similarly brought online? (stated by # 1 on my team and #13 in the world for Beta...)
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Message 1823588 - Posted: 12 Oct 2016, 0:53:58 UTC - in response to Message 1823457.  
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Well then. Re: my previous post about a mounting bracket failure, it broke again, as everyone expected. There wasn't much material to hold onto, so it was a matter of time.

But, it gave me more time since then to brainstorm better ideas for fixes, and I came up with a pretty good one, and it feels sturdier than the original bracket was.



I think your idea in the first post was better - although I'd make the bracket out of aluminum, (for head spreading…) not steel.
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Message 1823604 - Posted: 12 Oct 2016, 1:39:54 UTC - in response to Message 1823588.  

Well then. Re: my previous post about a mounting bracket failure, it broke again, as everyone expected. There wasn't much material to hold onto, so it was a matter of time.

But, it gave me more time since then to brainstorm better ideas for fixes, and I came up with a pretty good one, and it feels sturdier than the original bracket was.



I think your idea in the first post was better - although I'd make the bracket out of aluminum, (for head spreading…) not steel.

I agree. I have a scrap slab of 3/4-inch 6061 aluminum that is approx 12x12 inches. Ideally, I would rather use a piece of that to make a replacement bracket entirely out of that instead.

I think maybe I'll end up doing that as a preventative upgrade solution for the new Zen boards that are coming (probably in January.. latest thing I've heard is Zen will be debuted and launched at CES).
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Message 1824155 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 7:52:18 UTC

It would the nice to see this 60 MB tape blc2_2bit_guppi_57451_67970_HIP117473_0019 0.06 GB get processed it has been listed for a long time. One thing is certain when it gets processed it will be done reasonably fast
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Message 1824198 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 13:12:34 UTC - in response to Message 1824155.  

It would the nice to see this 60 MB tape blc2_2bit_guppi_57451_67970_HIP117473_0019 0.06 GB get processed it has been listed for a long time. One thing is certain when it gets processed it will be done reasonably fast


. . HI,

. . I am curious as to why you think it will be done fast. Would you care to elaborate?

Stephen

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Message 1824201 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 13:29:39 UTC - in response to Message 1824198.  

It would the nice to see this 60 MB tape blc2_2bit_guppi_57451_67970_HIP117473_0019 0.06 GB get processed it has been listed for a long time. One thing is certain when it gets processed it will be done reasonably fast


. . HI,

. . I am curious as to why you think it will be done fast. Would you care to elaborate?

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Because it's so small - tiny, in fact, compared with the usual 52,541 MB of a normal tape.
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Message 1824315 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 22:15:14 UTC - in response to Message 1824201.  


. . HI,

. . I am curious as to why you think it will be done fast. Would you care to elaborate?

Stephen

Because it's so small - tiny, in fact, compared with the usual 52,541 MB of a normal tape.[/quote]

. . That would explain it. I have never looked at the servers for info about the original tapes. I sould read more.

Stephen

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Message 1824393 - Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 2:29:46 UTC - in response to Message 1824315.  
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. . HI,

. . I am curious as to why you think it will be done fast. Would you care to elaborate?

Stephen

Because it's so small - tiny, in fact, compared with the usual 52,541 MB of a normal tape.



. . That would explain it. I have never looked at the servers for info about the original tapes. I sould read more.

Stephen.



Yes Richard is correct. It would have to be the smallest tape I have seen from memory.

Steven I am glad the question because this is how we learn.
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Message 1824606 - Posted: 16 Oct 2016, 2:58:39 UTC

most of the multibeam tapes appear to be 2016 and some 2015. does that mean we are mostly caught up with re-doing older tapes?
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Message 1824608 - Posted: 16 Oct 2016, 3:12:34 UTC - in response to Message 1824606.  

I want to say no... We may be 'caught up' with the 2015/2016 under v8, but I don't think any of the older tapes have been processed... this way.
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Message 1824623 - Posted: 16 Oct 2016, 5:38:31 UTC - in response to Message 1824606.  

most of the multibeam tapes appear to be 2016 and some 2015. does that mean we are mostly caught up with re-doing older tapes?


We may have caught up on Arecibo, but certainly not Breakthrough listen, currently we are splitting MJD: 57451 which translates to 4th of March 2016, what I can see on breakthrough listen data archive, MJD: 57628 which translates to 28th of August 2016, therefore we are behind on processing
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Message 1826070 - Posted: 22 Oct 2016, 8:17:55 UTC - in response to Message 1823604.  

Well then. Re: my previous post about a mounting bracket failure, it broke again, as everyone expected. There wasn't much material to hold onto, so it was a matter of time.

But, it gave me more time since then to brainstorm better ideas for fixes, and I came up with a pretty good one, and it feels sturdier than the original bracket was.



I think your idea in the first post was better - although I'd make the bracket out of aluminum, (for head spreading…) not steel.

I agree. I have a scrap slab of 3/4-inch 6061 aluminum that is approx 12x12 inches. Ideally, I would rather use a piece of that to make a replacement bracket entirely out of that instead.

Bracket broke again. This time, both ends where the screws mount it.. the whole end of the bracket broke off. It took me all day to figure out, too, because the heatsink didn't fall off (and be caught by the safety strap I put on it). About 5pm, the system suddenly was very sluggish and seemed to take longer to do everything than it usually does. I checked task manager and there was nothing abnormal there. I scratched my head all day on that one and couldn't figure it out.

Pulled up Speccy and saw CPU was being reported as 69*C. Clicked on the CPU section and it was 69*C and downclocked to 1.2ghz instead of 3.3..idle, with nothing going on. That explains the sluggishness. Took a peek in the side of the case and saw the heatsink was a little bit... not-perpendicular to the board. Turned the under-desk light on and saw the bracket was broken at both ends.

Shut down, pulled the bracket, dug out the slab of aluminum and spent 2 hours with all the wrong tools making a replacement out of a solid piece of metal. Took some tweaking to make it fit properly... but that's done and installed now. Back to video encoding.. 100% CPU load and it is sitting at 37*C at 3.3ghz--that's more like it.

Now I wonder how long until the lower bracket breaks.
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Message 1826234 - Posted: 23 Oct 2016, 3:15:51 UTC - in response to Message 1824623.  
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most of the multibeam tapes appear to be 2016 and some 2015. does that mean we are mostly caught up with re-doing older tapes?


MJD: 57451 which translates to 4th of March 2016, MJD: 57628 which translates to 28th of August 2016.

Can you please explain how you get the day and year from "57628" I can possibly understand how you get the year? Is that from the "6"
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