. . CPUs actually like Guppis (well mine do anyway). They run quicker than normal AR work so yes your RAC would go up. But normARs definitely run better than VLAR work on GPUs. If you are interested there is a thread about optimising your rig by rescheduling assigned work to the most appropriate device.

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Not true, My GPUs squash any CPU calculation of VLARs

The issue is, how do you have your system set up, what kind of GPUs and what modifications of the system have you done.

Zalster

My 1070 does a guppie in about 10 minutes working on 2 at a time.

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Thanx, that fixed it. I wonder why it wouldn't refresh on it's own.

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It will be interesting to see how the rig with 56 cores shapes up, once I get the time to complete it.

Hey Al: We need to discuss your CPU core obsession! lol

Bwhahahaha!

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Bwhahahaha!

Thanks, I needed that since I just changed my signature to:

August 2016 saga update: I just found out that (ab)user was a S@h moderator!!! :-O
No wonder the moderators were condoning his abuse and harassment.
I'm in TOTAL shock...this is really a low point for me wrt S@h forums!
Why did no one inform me?

I don't even feel like: "Keep calm and carry crunch on!"
I just want to get off this stupid planet!!!

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. . CPUs actually like Guppis (well mine do anyway). They run quicker than normal AR work so yes your RAC would go up. But normARs definitely run better than VLAR work on GPUs. If you are interested there is a thread about optimising your rig by rescheduling assigned work to the most appropriate device.

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Not true, My GPUs squash any CPU calculation of VLARs

The issue is, how do you have your system set up, what kind of GPUs and what modifications of the system have you done.

Zalster

. . So nonVLAR work on your CPU runs faster than VLAR work on your CPU?

. . Or does VLAR work on your GPU run faster than nonVLAR work on your GPU?

. . To be clear I will rephrase my words.

. . CPUs actually like Guppis (well mine do anyway). They run quicker than normal AR {on CPUs} work so yes your RAC would go up. But normARs {on GPUs} definitely run better than VLAR work on GPUs.

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Both run faster on my GPUs than my CPU so much so that I don't bother with the CPU anymore.

3 nonvlars in 12 minutes, 3 vlars in 18-20 minutes

Only Petri runs faster

. . CPUs actually like Guppis (well mine do anyway). They run quicker than normal AR work so yes your RAC would go up. But normARs definitely run better than VLAR work on GPUs. If you are interested there is a thread about optimising your rig by rescheduling assigned work to the most appropriate device.

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Not true, My GPUs squash any CPU calculation of VLARs

The issue is, how do you have your system set up, what kind of GPUs and what modifications of the system have you done.

Zalster

My 1070 does a guppie in about 10 minutes working on 2 at a time.

. . So how much longer do nonVLARs take to run on your 1070?

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Both run faster on my GPUs than my CPU so much so that I don't bother with the CPU anymore.
3 nonvlars in 12 minutes, 3 vlars in 18-20 minutes
Only Petri runs faster

Can I shake your money tree and pick up the loose change left on the ground? lol :-p

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. . CPUs actually like Guppis (well mine do anyway). They run quicker than normal AR work so yes your RAC would go up. But normARs definitely run better than VLAR work on GPUs. If you are interested there is a thread about optimising your rig by rescheduling assigned work to the most appropriate device.

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Not true, My GPUs squash any CPU calculation of VLARs

The issue is, how do you have your system set up, what kind of GPUs and what modifications of the system have you done.

Zalster

. . So nonVLAR work on your CPU runs faster than VLAR work on your CPU?

. . Or does VLAR work on your GPU run faster than nonVLAR work on your GPU?

. . To be clear I will rephrase my words.

. . CPUs actually like Guppis (well mine do anyway). They run quicker than normal AR {on CPUs} work so yes your RAC would go up. But normARs {on GPUs} definitely run better than VLAR work on GPUs.

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On my systems, Arecibo nonVLARs on the CPU runs usually around 2 hours +/- 5 minutes or so. Arecibo VLARs on the CPU run usually around 1:45 hours +/- 5 minutes. Guppi VLARs on the CPU usually run around 1:45 hours +/- 15 minutes.

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. . CPUs actually like Guppis (well mine do anyway). They run quicker than normal AR work so yes your RAC would go up. But normARs definitely run better than VLAR work on GPUs. If you are interested there is a thread about optimising your rig by rescheduling assigned work to the most appropriate device.

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Not true, My GPUs squash any CPU calculation of VLARs

The issue is, how do you have your system set up, what kind of GPUs and what modifications of the system have you done.

Zalster

My 1070 does a guppie in about 10 minutes working on 2 at a time.

. . So how much longer do nonVLARs take to run on your 1070?

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Guppi nonVLARS on my 1070 take 5-10 minutes to finish. Two tasks per card.

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. . CPUs actually like Guppis (well mine do anyway). They run quicker than normal AR {on CPUs} work so yes your RAC would go up. But normARs {on GPUs} definitely run better than VLAR work on GPUs.

For those who use both CPU & GPU, I agree
...except for "so yes your RAC would go up" as I haven't scrolled up to find out the context.

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Both run faster on my GPUs than my CPU so much so that I don't bother with the CPU anymore.
3 nonvlars in 12 minutes, 3 vlars in 18-20 minutes
Only Petri runs faster

Can I shake your money tree and pick up the loose change left on the ground? lol :-p

lol...I have over 8K validation pending...and climbing...

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Both run faster on my GPUs than my CPU so much so that I don't bother with the CPU anymore.

3 nonvlars in 12 minutes, 3 vlars in 18-20 minutes

Only Petri runs faster

. . OK I'll say it one more time. I was NOT comparing CPU to GPU times sheeeeeesh!

. . But your card is a 1070 is it? Or is it a 1080?

. . Have you ever ran an Arecibo VLAR task on your GPU? No sorry I just realised you are running CUDA like Petri. You would need to be running an openCL app like SoG. I was impressed that it is only slightly slower than a Guppi. Your comment of no longer using CPUs for crunching made me think of it.

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. . CPUs actually like Guppis (well mine do anyway). They run quicker than normal AR {on CPUs} work so yes your RAC would go up. But normARs {on GPUs} definitely run better than VLAR work on GPUs.
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On my systems, Arecibo nonVLARs on the CPU runs usually around 2 hours +/- 5 minutes or so. Arecibo VLARs on the CPU run usually around 1:45 hours +/- 5 minutes. Guppi VLARs on the CPU usually run around 1:45 hours +/- 15 minutes.

. . I would like to discuss that more with you Kevin but in another thread I think.

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. . CPUs actually like Guppis (well mine do anyway). They run quicker than normal AR {on CPUs} work so yes your RAC would go up. But normARs {on GPUs} definitely run better than VLAR work on GPUs.
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On my systems, Arecibo nonVLARs on the CPU runs usually around 2 hours +/- 5 minutes or so. Arecibo VLARs on the CPU run usually around 1:45 hours +/- 5 minutes. Guppi VLARs on the CPU usually run around 1:45 hours +/- 15 minutes.

. . I would like to discuss that more with you Kevin but in another thread I think.

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Sure, start the new thread and point me at it.

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lol...I have over 8K validation pending...and climbing...

That's mind-boggling Zalster. I only have about 900 validation pending.

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. . Have you ever ran an Arecibo VLAR task on your GPU? No sorry I just realised you are running CUDA like Petri. You would need to be running an openCL app like SoG. I was impressed that it is only slightly slower than a Guppi. Your comment of no longer using CPUs for crunching made me think of it.

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Uh, no.. I don't run CUDA.. I'm a Raistmer SoG fanboy...

So all work, non dependent of where it comes from is run on the GPUs. I have run both BLC VLARS, Arecibo VLAR, BLC VHAR, Arecibo VHAR and everything in between.

I didn't say much about this for a long time and allowed everyone to bash Raistmer, but now the pudding in the showing. All my crunchers are SoG and they run better than standard Cuda.

Only Petri special app is faster.

And as for my cards, they are listed in my computers Titan Xs, 1080, 980Tis

So when people make broad statements to others that they should move all BLC to CPU because it's faster, it's not true!

Please stop saying this.

Maybe for your system is it, but that doesn't represent everyone else.



Happy Crunching...

Zalster

Edit..

I apologize if any of this sounds angry or offends anyone, not my intentions

Z

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i don't use cpus, so nowhere to reschedule to either

So when people make broad statements to others that they should move all BLC to CPU because it's faster, it's not true!
Please stop saying this.
Maybe for your system is it, but that doesn't represent everyone else.

With all due and intended respect:
Most average rigs (1 CPU + 1or2 GPUs) will produce more with some CPU tasks than none.
Therefore moving BLCs (aka guppi) to CPU queue is optimal since Arecibo tasks take longer on CPU cores.
Us non-gurus only help other non-gurus who have average rigs.
Your rigs are the exception as you've spent many thousands on each power rig.
I don't think it is unreasonable to:

make broad statements to others that they should move all BLC to CPU because it's faster

because it is true for 99% of rigs that also do some crunching on CPU cores.
As I started, with all due and intended respect Zalster,
RobG :-)

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Will make for an interesting experiment I think .... after the contest close. Don't want to upset the apple cart now with how well things are currently running. I figure, if I have CPU cores sitting idle and doing nothing, I am not running efficiently. I may try to run 3 up per card after the contest which will knock my available CPU cores down to 1. I like having at least 1 core available to do general desktop maintenance so as to avoid system lags.

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