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Message 1785105 - Posted: 6 May 2016, 3:35:43 UTC

Hi
Newbie question...
Would something like this Xeon Phi PCI co-processor card "just work" with BOINC?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Intel-Xeon-Phi-31S1P-Coprocessor-8-GB-57-Cores-1TFLOP-270W-Sealed-BC31S1P-New-/222098831440?hash=item33b61f3850:g:fVwAAOSwpDdVTyRr

i.e. plug it in and you get 57 cores crunching away?
Or is a high end video card better?

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Message 1785115 - Posted: 6 May 2016, 5:02:11 UTC

Xeon Phi is more kin to a GPU than a CPU. The first benchmark I found suggests its performance is not that hot http://blog.xcelerit.com/intel-xeon-phi-vs-nvidia-tesla-gpu/.
Further it would probably need a custom build of the applications to run properly, and as far as I'm aware nobody has trodden that path with v8.
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Message 1785151 - Posted: 6 May 2016, 7:49:19 UTC

I think someone on here had a Phi when they first launched but I'm not sure if they ever managed to do anything with it.

That Xeon Phi looks to have similar performance specs to my R9 390X. Plus we already have apps for GPUs.
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Message 1785152 - Posted: 6 May 2016, 7:50:54 UTC

You need to talk with Ivan as he was playing with them. ;-)

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Message 1785862 - Posted: 8 May 2016, 15:54:18 UTC

Would be nice if we could use those since they going for dirt cheap on ebay
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Message 1785868 - Posted: 8 May 2016, 16:10:25 UTC

It looks as if Ivan gave up with trying some time ago.
This appears to be his last message on the subject:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76128&postid=1602280


Problems like those expressed by Ivan may well explain why they are going cheap on flee-bay
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Message 1785956 - Posted: 8 May 2016, 21:52:06 UTC

As I wrote in that thread - a way to try could be to check if OpenCL runtime available for such device and if yes, to rebuild current OpenCL SETI sources with this device as a target.
Perhaps some porting efforts could be required but at least in such approach parallelization work mostly done by runtime and already existing code. Should be much easier than write new heavely parallel app with native API whatever it is.
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Message 1786171 - Posted: 9 May 2016, 15:51:28 UTC

i wish i would know more about these cards you can buy 10 of those for about 600$
thats quiet a bit of computing power
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Message 1786195 - Posted: 9 May 2016, 16:53:19 UTC - in response to Message 1786171.  

i wish i would know more about these cards you can buy 10 of those for about 600$
thats quiet a bit of computing power

If they are going for $60 a piece. Then donating one for development probably wouldn't would to awful.
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Message 1786330 - Posted: 10 May 2016, 2:24:53 UTC

damn i should have bought a set seems someone beat me to it now all thats left is the high price newer models
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