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Message 1835065 - Posted: 9 Dec 2016, 22:30:26 UTC
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I guess now that I have two I can start breeding them. That's how it works right?


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Message 1835117 - Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 3:16:22 UTC - in response to Message 1835065.  

I guess now that I have two I can start breeding them. That's how it works right?

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Message 1835713 - Posted: 13 Dec 2016, 2:25:41 UTC - in response to Message 1835065.  

I guess now that I have two I can start breeding them. That's how it works right?



What case is that? i must have it!
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Message 1835724 - Posted: 13 Dec 2016, 3:12:05 UTC - in response to Message 1835713.  
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I guess now that I have two I can start breeding them. That's how it works right?

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What case is that? i must have it!

Thermaltake Core X9 and when it arrived I thought someone had left a small refrigerator on my doorstep.
I had not properly mentally prepared myself for just how big it was going to be.

Also the MB mounting holes are for E-ATX and not SSI-EEB. So you will either need to drill some holes or use other stand-offs if you plan to put a SSI-EEB MB in like I did.
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Message 1835747 - Posted: 13 Dec 2016, 5:24:12 UTC - in response to Message 1835724.  



Thermaltake Core X9 and when it arrived I thought someone had left a small refrigerator on my doorstep.
I had not properly mentally prepared myself for just how big it was going to be.

Also the MB mounting holes are for E-ATX and not SSI-EEB. So you will either need to drill some holes or use other stand-offs if you plan to put a SSI-EEB MB in like I did.

Actually that's the sort of case I want for my next case upgrade (after I get 2-3 more years and hardware upgrades out of my 2 current CM 942 HAF-X's, just to get my $'s worth out of them, but I was surprised at the X9's dimensions (they're bigger than they look), though I could add 2 drawer shelves to my work station desk to lift them 25cm off the floor where they won't suck in the crap off the floor like the HAF's do ATM (& hide some other stuff under them).

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Message 1836827 - Posted: 18 Dec 2016, 20:01:41 UTC - in response to Message 1835724.  
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Say Hal, on a semi related question, I am going to be machining some motherboard trays with my VMC (hopefully in Feb), and am looking for a CAD file that has them all. I would like to have the One Tray That Runs (fits) Them All... ;-)

ATX, E-ATX, SSI-EEB, HPTX (EVGAs "Better Idea" for the SR-2/X boards), whatever spec Supermicro and maybe HP uses with their server boards, UberATX, Gynormo-ATX, etc, etc. I expect it to look somewhat like swiss cheese when I am done with it... Hopefully none of the holes are too close, or I will drop the less popular ones..

I've done a little searching, because I figure that I can't be the first person on the planet who has done something like this, and have come up with a few ideas, one that some guy did 3-4 years ago that would be a start, not nearly as complete as I am hoping for, and I will try pinging him but need to set up acct on that site to be able to message him, haven't yet taken the time to do so. Do you have any resources you might be able to point me towards that I would be able to acquire said CAD file? And if it was a multi layer one that had each style separate, that would be Awesome! Any thoughts are appreciated.

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Message 1836856 - Posted: 18 Dec 2016, 23:57:51 UTC

I saw someone years and years and years ago put an ATX mobo into a G4 case relatively easily. What they ended up doing was to take the stand-offs, cut the male-threaded part of them off to make a cup/socket for the mobo screw to go into, attached them all to the mobo, lined it up where it needed to be on the back panel, and put a glob of JB Weld on the bottom of all of the standoffs and let it sit overnight to epoxy them to the mobo tray.

It's a less-elegant solution, but that method can be used to give you one tray that can hold many types of mobos.
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Message 1836877 - Posted: 19 Dec 2016, 2:33:15 UTC - in response to Message 1836827.  

I've never looked for CAD files. The most I've gone for is the specification diagram that shows where everything is located. Perhaps you could use that to make your CAD file?

For the Dual E5's in the Core X9 case I used a few of these stands-offs where the SSI-EEB didn't match up wit the E-ATX holes in the MB tray.


For my dual LGA771 system I ended up finding a backplate that let me secure the heatsinks. So I didn't need to find a MB try or case to mount the MB.

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Message 1837261 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 0:29:30 UTC
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Thanks for the thougths, I will keep my search up, because I bet there are ppl who are thinking of running naked like me, but are concerned about what the motherboard goes on. If I can come up with an elegant solution, I'll post the results of the fruits of my labors here. Should be an interesting project.

Oh, on a non-related subject, I pulled out a laptop that I bought for running ODBI scanning software on, and it has been sitting on the shelf for a good 4 years or so. I bought a couple new batteries and a charger, and want to put it to use. I noticed that I had never done a windows update on it, it's running Win 7 home premium with SP1 installed. I tried to do windows update, aware that it could take 12-24 hours to finally grind thru it all to present me a list of files to download, but after a day and a half and no end in sight, I killed it, remembering that in one of these posts here someone had mentioned downloading a SP that will significantly cut this time down. I've done a bit of searching, but search-fu is weak, I can't seem to locate it. Anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks!

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Message 1837264 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 0:48:03 UTC - in response to Message 1837261.  

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Message 1837265 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 0:49:17 UTC

Hey, Al. Somewhat related perhaps.
I've been searching for better approaches to supporting additional GPUs externally.
Current solution uses an old ATX minitower with standalone +12v and +5v power supplies to support 3x GTX980s, with the riser card slots screwed to a piece of sheet metal drilled to mate with the old motherboard standoff pattern for ATX MBs. Initially tried for 4 cards, to fully use the 8 slots the case had, but found that 3, leaving a single slot open between each, was a better solution and probably all the 12v supply could support anyway.
Somewhat of a drift off the topic here, except to say that with all that nice Xeon power, it gets to be a challenge to harness it all. All the MBs have PCIE slots, but until you go external, you can only get to 2.
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Message 1837267 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 0:53:02 UTC - in response to Message 1837261.  
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...I noticed that I had never done a windows update on it, it's running Win 7 home premium with SP1 installed. I tried to do windows update, aware that it could take 12-24 hours to finally grind thru it all to present me a list of files to download, but after a day and a half and no end in sight, I killed it, remembering that in one of these posts here someone had mentioned downloading a SP that will significantly cut this time down. I've done a bit of searching, but search-fu is weak, I can't seem to locate it. Anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks!

Just went through this exercise last week, and saved the link. Works fine:
Speed up
I just did step 2 and step 3, then things were good again ...

The process I used specifically is:
1) Download either the 32-bit or 64-bit version of KB 3172605. Do NOT let it try to install over the web, save the MSU installer file.
2) Reboot the PC, with Internet access DISCONNECTED.
3) Run the KB 3172605 MSU installer.
4) Reboot, with internet access reconnected.
5) Go get KB 3020369. While it's recommended to follow the same download/no internet/ install process, I was able to let the online installer run on this one and it went in just fine.
6) Reboot, and check for updates and you should find the time reduced from days to probably under an hour. Or just let it go forward and do its thing.
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Message 1837268 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 0:55:51 UTC - in response to Message 1837264.  

http://bfy.tw/94h7

SP1 still has the issue, until or unless KB 3172605 and KB 3020369 are installed.
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Message 1837319 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 13:19:06 UTC - in response to Message 1837264.  

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Umm.. I already have SP1 installed, but thanks for the Google link! lol

I was looking for the one that I remember people referencing when they had massively long searching for updates when doing a WIndows Update in Win 7, taking a day or more. I know it was discussed here, I just couldn't find it.

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Message 1837320 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 13:20:07 UTC - in response to Message 1837267.  

Thank you, I'll give that a shot, I think that might be what I am looking for.

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Message 1837328 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 14:20:50 UTC - in response to Message 1837319.  

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Umm.. I already have SP1 installed, but thanks for the Google link! lol

I was looking for the one that I remember people referencing when they had massively long searching for updates when doing a WIndows Update in Win 7, taking a day or more. I know it was discussed here, I just couldn't find it.

Ah I had misread your post & thought you were having issues finding THE SP for Win 7. It makes more sense that you were looking for the rollup packages.
If I need a specific update of some kind to run an app I'll grab that KB by itself from the download center. Otherwise for my machines I go with 7 SP1 & don't bother with any updates.
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Message 1837335 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 14:38:55 UTC - in response to Message 1837319.  

I was looking for the one that I remember people referencing when they had massively long searching for updates when doing a WIndows Update in Win 7, taking a day or more. I know it was discussed here, I just couldn't find it.
You might be thinking of KB 3102810
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Message 1837395 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 22:15:43 UTC - in response to Message 1837335.  

I was looking for the one that I remember people referencing when they had massively long searching for updates when doing a WIndows Update in Win 7, taking a day or more. I know it was discussed here, I just couldn't find it.
You might be thinking of KB 3102810

True, but KB 3102810 is contained in SP1.
The stuff I reference came after, for those on SP1 still experiencing the issue, as I was ...
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Message 1837411 - Posted: 23 Dec 2016, 0:17:57 UTC

3102810 is the one that fixes that problem with taking too long to check for updates. It came out in October 2015. I confirmed that it does actually work, with my father's laptop. It hadn't been updated since late 2014 and wouldn't find updates. Manually installed 3102810 and it took about 10 minutes to find updates.
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Message 1837438 - Posted: 23 Dec 2016, 4:46:18 UTC - in response to Message 1837411.  

3102810 is the one that fixes that problem with taking too long to check for updates. It came out in October 2015. I confirmed that it does actually work, with my father's laptop. It hadn't been updated since late 2014 and wouldn't find updates. Manually installed 3102810 and it took about 10 minutes to find updates.

Your mileage may vary. In my case this was not the case, as I described above.
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