I'm very curious as to what the 1060 and even the 1050 will perform like, as well as power consumption. In the blurbs I've been reading about pascal, best rumour I've heard is late summer/early fall, anyone see anything else mentioned about them?

The 1070 is to be released June 10th. The 1060 is said to be released in "the fall". Which looks to fit their normal schedule of releasing the first GPUs a few weeks apart. Then staggering the rest at 3+ month intervals.

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I ordered one.

Awesome!

799€.

Perrrkele...

;)

edit: haha Grant beat me to it!

That's nothing, I saw one 1080 on Amazon for about $1704 or about €1528...

It would be nice to find out if a Corsair N970 would fit with little to no mods on a GTX 1070, which is what I'm seeing elsewhere in speculation that is going about. There is a preview Here on the HardOCP, plus pics too, much too big to display here, so I put one pic(1024*488) on My photobucket site for display here.

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[Had this in notepad about 5hrs before the AMD announcement but we never got back from the outage when it went live. Posting as is so I can go to bed:)]

Computex in full swing. Too much info to digest really (much less comment on) so I'll just be link-bombing for now :)

AMD to unveil Polaris in about 1hr
Should be here:
http://www.amd.com/en-us/who-we-are/corporate-information/events/computex

try here if not:
https://www.youtube.com/user/amd
https://www.twitch.tv/amd

Until then you might enjoy:
"AMD To Chase Market Share Over High End With First Polaris Offerings"
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-polaris-10-mainstream-gpu,31879.html

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INTEL news & reviews:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10361/intel-announces-xeon-e3-1500-v5-iris-pro-and-edram-for-streaming-video
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10337/the-intel-broadwell-e-review-core-i7-6950x-6900k-6850k-and-6800k-tested-up-to-10-cores
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-broadwell-e-6950x-6900k-6850k-6800k,4587.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10338/computex-2016-intel-keynote-live-blog-at-2pm-tpe-2am-edt
http://techreport.com/news/30216/intel-computex-keynote-confirms-kaby-lake-and-optane-for-2016


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External GPUs finally going mainstream (and hot-swappable?) with TB3:

ROG XG Station 2 (scroll half-way down first link)
http://rog.asus.com/23412016/coming-soon/computex-2016-asus-rog-announced-the-latest-and-greatest-in-gaming-tech/
http://www.techpowerup.com/222996/asus-unveils-rog-xg2-graphics-enclosure
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/40793-asus-shows-its-xg-station-2-external-gpu-at-computex-2016

PowerColor DEVIL BOX
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/40778-powercolor-announces-devil-box-external-gpu-box
http://www.powercolor.com/Global/News.asp?id=1247

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Then there's this:
Backpack PCs for VR Gaming are now a "thing":

http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/27/11790674/hp-virtual-reality-gaming-pc-backpack
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/5/26/11789096/msi-backpack-pc-virtual-reality
http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/25/11504118/zotac-stuffed-a-pc-into-a-backpack-for-untethered-vr-gaming

(The main take-away being that VR is getting taken seriously. Good news for GPU Wars!)

Edit: New
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10389/amd-teases-radeon-rx-480-launching-june-29th-for-199
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10390/computex-2016-amd-press-conference-live-blog

Watching the vid. RX480 US$199 and VR capable ?

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$200, only 150W TDP, and greater than 5 TFLOPS of performance. This might be one cheap beast for us crunchers!

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Watching the vid. RX480 US$199 and VR capable ?

Since the the rest of the VR gear is around $800 having the GPU be less expensive is nice I guess.

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$200, only 150W TDP, and greater than 5 TFLOPS of performance. This might be one cheap beast for us crunchers!

The 1070 is also only 150W TDP, so I would guesstimate the 1060 when it appears, in 3 months, might be as low as 100W TDP and cheaper.

$200, only 150W TDP, and greater than 5 TFLOPS of performance. This might be one cheap beast for us crunchers!

The 1070 is also only 150W TDP, so I would guesstimate the 1060 when it appears, in 3 months, might be as low as 100W TDP and cheaper.

The NV 10 series looks to have a $50 bump in price over the 900 series. So the 1060 will likely be $250 & only ~3500 GFLOPs.

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I am thinking that NV will probably try a little harder to be price competitive in the low end, if their cards don't match up exceedingly well at what would have been expected price point. I doubt they will want to cede the lower end market to AMD, and they are making bank (from now until they are finally released) on the 1070/80 line. Plus, by that time they hopefully would improve their yields to make them even more cost competitive. Just a guess, but I don't believe they will rest on their laurels.

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I dunno, one part of me feels NV has held back, just because p100 supposedly is a thing, and 1080 is 'only' ~2x970. Sure, bad yields + HBM2 unavailability, but never stopped NV prematurely launching unobtainium before.

Another part is that traditionally AMD has been in bed with m$ via XBox, and now has ties with Samsung and China, so low to medium end mass production seems like a probable advantage there for them.

Last part that bothers me, is that the topend consumer/gaming cards usually require more power. Of course using less power is good for preserving fossil fuels, but there are those with hydro power, nuclear and renewable sources of energy these days. Pushing the 300W PCIe spec limits probably isn't a big deal for some number of customers

So my feeling is the 1080 is mid-high-end, rx480 upper mid, and the true mainstream and ultra-enthusiast platforms are yet to appear.

Looks to me like they're just avoiding competing for the time being, at least until they can build the emerging VR and 4k gaming markets which Intel and m$ have no hope of surviving in. [Consider: Samsung makes 4k screens I believe]

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Can't remember where I saw it but they were talking about Pascal Titan

Here's a hint at what it might be
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-pascal-1080ti-and-titan-spec-leaks/#:FXrJQvDN5ubNjA

So my feeling is the 1080 is mid-high-end, rx480 upper mid, and the true mainstream and ultra-enthusiast platforms are yet to appear.

I'm getting the whole tick-tock vibe. If they can sell Pascal and cause an upgrade cycle, unless AMD blows past them (unlikely), they'll maximize revenue selling one "series" at a time.

Or by bringing-out a Titan (of sorts) at some stupidly high price-point with incredible markup.

Or by bringing-out a Titan (of sorts) at some stupidly high price-point with incredible markup.

This.

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I've been seeing posts elsewhere that the 4GB 480 is $199 USD; 8GB $239.

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Has anyone tried installing a 1080 with any other series GPU and see if they will work together?

Has anyone tried installing a 1080 with any other series GPU and see if they will work together?

Common pattern is some amount of weirdness with the dedicated Day-0 driver release, followed by better compatibility a general driver release or two after that. Doesn't always go like that, but more probable with a major architecture change.

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I dunno, one part of me feels NV has held back, just because p100 supposedly is a thing, and 1080 is 'only' ~2x970. Sure, bad yields + HBM2 unavailability, but never stopped NV prematurely launching unobtainium before.

Another part is that traditionally AMD has been in bed with m$ via XBox, and now has ties with Samsung and China, so low to medium end mass production seems like a probable advantage there for them.

Last part that bothers me, is that the topend consumer/gaming cards usually require more power. Of course using less power is good for preserving fossil fuels, but there are those with hydro power, nuclear and renewable sources of energy these days. Pushing the 300W PCIe spec limits probably isn't a big deal for some number of customers

So my feeling is the 1080 is mid-high-end, rx480 upper mid, and the true mainstream and ultra-enthusiast platforms are yet to appear.

Looks to me like they're just avoiding competing for the time being, at least until they can build the emerging VR and 4k gaming markets which Intel and m$ have no hope of surviving in. [Consider: Samsung makes 4k screens I believe]

Looking at the trend for the R9 x80 cards the 400 series looks like a heck of a bump in oomph. While being more affordable and efficient.
R9 280 2964 GFLOPs SP 250w $249
R9 380 3476 GFLOPs SP 190w $329
RX 480 5000 GFLOPs SP 150w $199

My R9 390X is only ~6000 GFLOPs. So I look forward to seeing what they do with the rest of the range. If the high end Fury GPUs get a similar treatment I might even end up going that route for one of my system.

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One thing that people seem to be ignoring in the press release is

The $199 starting SEP for select Radeon RX Series GPUs

and that crossfire can be done for under $500. That without actual data could mean the top end 480 with 8GB of GDDR5 could be as high as $249.

So before jumping one way or the other I think it would be wise to wait until the independent sites have done their testing and maybe, even then, not until we see what the Nvidia 1060 performance/price is like.

Quick pop-in 2c if anybody had a 1080 up 'n' running...

Petri I sure hope ur physically ok and just testing offline or something.

Have a great summer everybody :)

Quick pop-in 2c if anybody had a 1080 up 'n' running...

Petri I sure hope ur physically ok and just testing offline or something.

Have a great summer everybody :)

Last chat I had with Petri I did a bit of a braindump on the pulsefinding issue via pm. Probably he's busily wading through confirming/rejecting/adapting/testing pieces, or gone on a rampage through the streets.

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