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Message 1774243 - Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 20:14:21 UTC - in response to Message 1774221.  
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BTW, it's not memories....
It is meowmories.

Get it right.


Of course I was talking on the phone to my Dad.

My sister phoned him earlier and told him to pack his bags as she was traveling down from London to take him back for the week.

Anyway we chatted and he talked about who was going to look after his cats and his little shark fish...

He started to groan.

His cat's knew we were talking about them and jumped on him and dug their claws in.

No one forgets cats.

They don't let you.
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Message 1774312 - Posted: 27 Mar 2016, 0:09:51 UTC

My earliest memories are of age 4, everything before that is black... I remember Nursery School, my friends there, finger painting. I remember my teachers names from Kindergarten through High School; well, college too but, you go through so many college teachers... I remember the good ones, though. :-)

I remember every address and phone number my family has had. I remember my Aunt and Uncle's address in Alsip, IL.

My earliest memory of television is Underdog, Tennessee Tuxedo, Felix the Cat, Speed Racer, and Star Trek. I took to Spock right away! I always thought he was cool. :-)


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Message 1774321 - Posted: 27 Mar 2016, 0:27:37 UTC

How far back do you think a
person could possibility remember?


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Message 1774328 - Posted: 27 Mar 2016, 0:42:48 UTC

Felix, that wonderful cat.
"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

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Message 1774331 - Posted: 27 Mar 2016, 0:49:51 UTC - in response to Message 1774321.  
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How far back do you think a
person could possibility remember?


I had a lovely girlfriend long ago who told me about how angry she felt that her older brother used to sit above her in her pram. (She was less than 18 months.)

I suspect memories go back as far as the first moment our connective tissues started to eek out a connection.

I doubt we will recall all or much of what we think we want to remember.

Memory is also something we constantly re-evaluate given our present moment.

We forget that we chose not to remember in the past.

We forget that we have forgotten so we re-make in a pailer image.

We recreate memories in degrees.

We also need others to keep the thread alive.

Memory sometimes is powerful but often it is just an echo of an echo of an echo.

... but then sometimes a moment escapes... may be our perfect memory.

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(I have no doubt that genetic or determinological memory affects us too.. i just doubt we as individuals will be able to put our finger on exactly what it means to us.)

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Message 1774390 - Posted: 27 Mar 2016, 8:34:16 UTC

The human brain is very powerful.
I read somewhere that we dont forget anything at all.
Our brain just needs a reason to remember things.
I remember when i was 3 years old in the child garden.
When i talk about it older memories coming back imediately.


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Message 1774453 - Posted: 27 Mar 2016, 15:35:15 UTC - in response to Message 1774390.  

I remember when i was 3 years old in the child garden.
When i talk about it older memories coming back imediately.


That's an interesting idea - thinking about old memories, connects to other memories...
The mind is a weird and mysterious place
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Message 1774456 - Posted: 27 Mar 2016, 15:58:35 UTC - in response to Message 1772922.  

I struggle with my mother's dementia, as her most recent activities seem ephemeral, but she embraces things from adolescence and back, as if yesterday. She remembers her adulthood if asked questions, but her sense of current reality versus the past can be very blurry.

What are your oldest memories? Best memories? Do you have a feeling of frustration you've lost some of your memories? I can tell you right now when I think back to even my best memories, I don't remember everything, but I wish I did.

Gordon I can sympathize. My mom dives deeper into dementia on a daily basis. The past of my brothers & I growing up is nearly crystal clear but current is a blur.

I've got a good memory but I have started forgetting names

My Mother had a few episodes like that in the months before the cancer took her. One Sunday morning, she woke up at about 0200, frantic that she was going to be late for school. Took me over an hour to calm her down and convinve her that it was Sunday, and there was no school that day..

My earliest clear memories are of the airplane ride when we moved from Milwaukee to Visalia in May 1957. I have pictures, but almost no memories of my Dad's father, who died od cancer shortly after that move. or his mother, who we visited once in Milwaukee, but refused to come to California, even when Dad offered to pay for the trip. My Mother's family visited often, and I have been back to see them many times, so the memories are stronger.

Some of my friends are amazed at the things and people I remember from growing up. And a phrase can trigger memories of songs I heard long ago. I joke about it, but it is true - I can remember, in excruciating detail, things that happened 30, 40, 50 years ago, but need a pocket calendar to remember what I have to do 2 hours from now.
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Message 1774463 - Posted: 27 Mar 2016, 16:49:43 UTC
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I have just been introduced to an exciting new idea
that is studying the relationship between what memory
you are calling up, and how the way you feel about the
memory may effect the memory it self. I am wondering if
some of my more cherished memories are even in fact accurate.
I have just came out of a time when remembering short term
was very hard for me. Now I am noticing a great improvement,
even from day to day some times with this somewhat forgotten
ability. We shall see. The vary first memory that I have had
substantiated by my Sweet departed Mother was from when I was
eight months old. I was sick with measles and pneumonia, and
I remember my Mum putting a hot water bottle under my blanket.
I don't remember if the bottle was warm or cool, I just remember
her doing the action, and also I remember looking past her into
the kitchen at one of the outside windows.
As I related, I know that memory had supporting evidence, it is
some of the others that may have been distorted.



edit:
Almost all my early memories are happy ones, but still others were lessons.
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Message 1774465 - Posted: 27 Mar 2016, 16:53:10 UTC
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I can't remember anything from my car crash anymore. Wished I did at times, maybe goodbyes would've been easier..
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Message 1774480 - Posted: 27 Mar 2016, 17:29:39 UTC - in response to Message 1774465.  

I can't remember anything from my car crash anymore. Wished I did at times, maybe goodbyes would've been easier..

Many of my friends who are mental health professionals tell me it is quite common to NOT remember much of such traumatic events. Seems to be a natural defense mechanism of the brain - it fences off such painful memories, so you can continue living life. But they are still there, deep down inside. It is when the brain cannot fence off those memories that we have PTSD and similar problems.
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Message 1774525 - Posted: 27 Mar 2016, 19:43:45 UTC

My most painful memory is the one that shall haunt me to my grave.

That day I chased my brother down and saw him jump.
And hit the railroad tracks below.
You never want to see such a sight in your life, I assure you.
And some of you wonder why I am a bit 'out there' at times.
This never leaves me.
I can never ignore nor deny that day or those thoughts.
They shall haunt me to my death. I cannot escape them.

And then had to go to the county morgue and see him there on the slab.

So much happened in my mind in a matter of seconds there.
Life stopped. His certainly had. Blood running from the table across the floor.
His warmth as I kissed his forehead. Life was almost still there.
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Message 1774535 - Posted: 27 Mar 2016, 20:29:46 UTC

I've been taking pictures, and recording video/audio, along with keeping a diary of my mother's Iva-isms(her name is Iva), and a binder of random written notes she makes. It will all help jog my memory after her death.

Maybe someday people will be able to "backup" their brain like we do now with a computer's hard drive. A couple years ago, there was a piece of fiction in The New Yorker about a virtual reality device that enabled the user to replay memories.
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Message 1774660 - Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 5:20:26 UTC - in response to Message 1774321.  

How far back do you think a
person could possibility remember?


This was quite a few years ago. But a book I had read postulated that a lot of human phobias were formed when we were still small rodent like beings back about 65 million years ago. My self I have an extreme fear of snakes.
I think the author called it ancesterial racial memory.
I don't have a clue if that was ever accepted by scientists.
I think a parallel would be the modern human fear of the wolf, sabertooth cats (even thought they died out tens of thousands of years ago.)And any other predator who hunted us.
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Message 1775034 - Posted: 30 Mar 2016, 4:56:22 UTC - in response to Message 1774535.  

Maybe someday people will be able to "backup" their brain like we do now with a computer's hard drive. A couple years ago, there was a piece of fiction in The New Yorker about a virtual reality device that enabled the user to replay memories.

Have you read "We Can Remember it For you Wholesale" by Philip K. Dick?
They made a movie of it as "Total Recall" with Ahnolt in the lead.
The book was better - and scarier.
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Message 1775772 - Posted: 2 Apr 2016, 17:04:59 UTC - in response to Message 1775034.  

Maybe someday people will be able to "backup" their brain like we do now with a computer's hard drive. A couple years ago, there was a piece of fiction in The New Yorker about a virtual reality device that enabled the user to replay memories.

Have you read "We Can Remember it For you Wholesale" by Philip K. Dick?
They made a movie of it as "Total Recall" with Ahnolt in the lead.
The book was better - and scarier.

Replay memories. It's called "Flash Backs". Some we don't want to see anymore.

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Message 1776185 - Posted: 4 Apr 2016, 14:48:59 UTC
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I remember little bits when I was 3 an 4, some were funny and some not.
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Message 1777280 - Posted: 8 Apr 2016, 21:13:53 UTC

I guess I could be called one of those people who doesn't like change, and part of the reason is because it's nice to go back to a certain place in my memory and relive it in reality. For instance, when I go back to my old University campus and certain buildings, or even trees, aren't there anymore, it's frustrating and depressing because reality doesn't match up with my memory. I know the past can never be the same again, but sometimes I really want it to be.
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Message 1777467 - Posted: 9 Apr 2016, 7:20:44 UTC - in response to Message 1777280.  

I guess I could be called one of those people who doesn't like change, and part of the reason is because it's nice to go back to a certain place in my memory and relive it in reality. For instance, when I go back to my old University campus and certain buildings, or even trees, aren't there anymore, it's frustrating and depressing because reality doesn't match up with my memory. I know the past can never be the same again, but sometimes I really want it to be.

I can really relate to that Gordan. The little hamlet that we moved to in 1965, When I was 13 is half gone now. The state made the road wider and got rid of the south half of the hamlet. Not a house is standing. I can still recall the names of the people who lived in them. Progress. Aint it wonder full?
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