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cRunchy Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3555 Credit: 1,920,030 RAC: 3 |
BTW, it's not memories.... Of course I was talking on the phone to my Dad. My sister phoned him earlier and told him to pack his bags as she was traveling down from London to take him back for the week. Anyway we chatted and he talked about who was going to look after his cats and his little shark fish... He started to groan. His cat's knew we were talking about them and jumped on him and dug their claws in. No one forgets cats. They don't let you. |
TimeLord04 Send message Joined: 9 Mar 06 Posts: 21140 Credit: 33,933,039 RAC: 23 |
My earliest memories are of age 4, everything before that is black... I remember Nursery School, my friends there, finger painting. I remember my teachers names from Kindergarten through High School; well, college too but, you go through so many college teachers... I remember the good ones, though. :-) I remember every address and phone number my family has had. I remember my Aunt and Uncle's address in Alsip, IL. My earliest memory of television is Underdog, Tennessee Tuxedo, Felix the Cat, Speed Racer, and Star Trek. I took to Spock right away! I always thought he was cool. :-) TL TimeLord04 Have TARDIS, will travel... Come along K-9! Join Calm Chaos |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
How far back do you think a person could possibility remember? |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
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cRunchy Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3555 Credit: 1,920,030 RAC: 3 |
How far back do you think a I had a lovely girlfriend long ago who told me about how angry she felt that her older brother used to sit above her in her pram. (She was less than 18 months.) I suspect memories go back as far as the first moment our connective tissues started to eek out a connection. I doubt we will recall all or much of what we think we want to remember. Memory is also something we constantly re-evaluate given our present moment. We forget that we chose not to remember in the past. We forget that we have forgotten so we re-make in a pailer image. We recreate memories in degrees. We also need others to keep the thread alive. Memory sometimes is powerful but often it is just an echo of an echo of an echo. ... but then sometimes a moment escapes... may be our perfect memory. . (I have no doubt that genetic or determinological memory affects us too.. i just doubt we as individuals will be able to put our finger on exactly what it means to us.) . |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34253 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
The human brain is very powerful. I read somewhere that we dont forget anything at all. Our brain just needs a reason to remember things. I remember when i was 3 years old in the child garden. When i talk about it older memories coming back imediately. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
I remember when i was 3 years old in the child garden. That's an interesting idea - thinking about old memories, connects to other memories... The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
I struggle with my mother's dementia, as her most recent activities seem ephemeral, but she embraces things from adolescence and back, as if yesterday. She remembers her adulthood if asked questions, but her sense of current reality versus the past can be very blurry. My Mother had a few episodes like that in the months before the cancer took her. One Sunday morning, she woke up at about 0200, frantic that she was going to be late for school. Took me over an hour to calm her down and convinve her that it was Sunday, and there was no school that day.. My earliest clear memories are of the airplane ride when we moved from Milwaukee to Visalia in May 1957. I have pictures, but almost no memories of my Dad's father, who died od cancer shortly after that move. or his mother, who we visited once in Milwaukee, but refused to come to California, even when Dad offered to pay for the trip. My Mother's family visited often, and I have been back to see them many times, so the memories are stronger. Some of my friends are amazed at the things and people I remember from growing up. And a phrase can trigger memories of songs I heard long ago. I joke about it, but it is true - I can remember, in excruciating detail, things that happened 30, 40, 50 years ago, but need a pocket calendar to remember what I have to do 2 hours from now. Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
I have just been introduced to an exciting new idea that is studying the relationship between what memory you are calling up, and how the way you feel about the memory may effect the memory it self. I am wondering if some of my more cherished memories are even in fact accurate. I have just came out of a time when remembering short term was very hard for me. Now I am noticing a great improvement, even from day to day some times with this somewhat forgotten ability. We shall see. The vary first memory that I have had substantiated by my Sweet departed Mother was from when I was eight months old. I was sick with measles and pneumonia, and I remember my Mum putting a hot water bottle under my blanket. I don't remember if the bottle was warm or cool, I just remember her doing the action, and also I remember looking past her into the kitchen at one of the outside windows. As I related, I know that memory had supporting evidence, it is some of the others that may have been distorted. edit: Almost all my early memories are happy ones, but still others were lessons. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34041 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
I can't remember anything from my car crash anymore. Wished I did at times, maybe goodbyes would've been easier.. Many of my friends who are mental health professionals tell me it is quite common to NOT remember much of such traumatic events. Seems to be a natural defense mechanism of the brain - it fences off such painful memories, so you can continue living life. But they are still there, deep down inside. It is when the brain cannot fence off those memories that we have PTSD and similar problems. Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
My most painful memory is the one that shall haunt me to my grave. That day I chased my brother down and saw him jump. And hit the railroad tracks below. You never want to see such a sight in your life, I assure you. And some of you wonder why I am a bit 'out there' at times. This never leaves me. I can never ignore nor deny that day or those thoughts. They shall haunt me to my death. I cannot escape them. And then had to go to the county morgue and see him there on the slab. So much happened in my mind in a matter of seconds there. Life stopped. His certainly had. Blood running from the table across the floor. His warmth as I kissed his forehead. Life was almost still there. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
I've been taking pictures, and recording video/audio, along with keeping a diary of my mother's Iva-isms(her name is Iva), and a binder of random written notes she makes. It will all help jog my memory after her death. Maybe someday people will be able to "backup" their brain like we do now with a computer's hard drive. A couple years ago, there was a piece of fiction in The New Yorker about a virtual reality device that enabled the user to replay memories. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
Carlos Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 29756 Credit: 57,275,487 RAC: 157 |
It seems that the age of 3 is the limit for most people. But 7 is more typical. Few adults can remember anything that happened to them before the age of 3. Now, a new study has documented that it’s about age 7 when our earliest memories begin to fade, a phenomenon known as “childhood amnesia.†|
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
How far back do you think a This was quite a few years ago. But a book I had read postulated that a lot of human phobias were formed when we were still small rodent like beings back about 65 million years ago. My self I have an extreme fear of snakes. I think the author called it ancesterial racial memory. I don't have a clue if that was ever accepted by scientists. I think a parallel would be the modern human fear of the wolf, sabertooth cats (even thought they died out tens of thousands of years ago.)And any other predator who hunted us. [/quote] Old James |
Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
Maybe someday people will be able to "backup" their brain like we do now with a computer's hard drive. A couple years ago, there was a piece of fiction in The New Yorker about a virtual reality device that enabled the user to replay memories. Have you read "We Can Remember it For you Wholesale" by Philip K. Dick? They made a movie of it as "Total Recall" with Ahnolt in the lead. The book was better - and scarier. Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
Admiral Gloval Send message Joined: 31 Mar 13 Posts: 20157 Credit: 5,308,449 RAC: 0 |
Maybe someday people will be able to "backup" their brain like we do now with a computer's hard drive. A couple years ago, there was a piece of fiction in The New Yorker about a virtual reality device that enabled the user to replay memories. Replay memories. It's called "Flash Backs". Some we don't want to see anymore. |
Grant Nelson Send message Joined: 7 May 12 Posts: 8022 Credit: 4,237,757 RAC: 0 |
I remember little bits when I was 3 an 4, some were funny and some not. |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
I guess I could be called one of those people who doesn't like change, and part of the reason is because it's nice to go back to a certain place in my memory and relive it in reality. For instance, when I go back to my old University campus and certain buildings, or even trees, aren't there anymore, it's frustrating and depressing because reality doesn't match up with my memory. I know the past can never be the same again, but sometimes I really want it to be. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
I guess I could be called one of those people who doesn't like change, and part of the reason is because it's nice to go back to a certain place in my memory and relive it in reality. For instance, when I go back to my old University campus and certain buildings, or even trees, aren't there anymore, it's frustrating and depressing because reality doesn't match up with my memory. I know the past can never be the same again, but sometimes I really want it to be. I can really relate to that Gordan. The little hamlet that we moved to in 1965, When I was 13 is half gone now. The state made the road wider and got rid of the south half of the hamlet. Not a house is standing. I can still recall the names of the people who lived in them. Progress. Aint it wonder full? [/quote] Old James |
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