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Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Before Felipe asks his monthly question ... ;) Looks like we reprocessed just over 50 of the old 2011 tapes in February, and started on the 2010 backlog - I saw 21 of those. We also did 76 brand new 2015 tapes, making 150 in all - rather fewer than we normally get through. Still, it was a short month, and v8 processing is slower (because more precise) than before. Recorded TOTAL Processed with Processed with SaH v7/8 (since Sah v6 only launch June 2013) (derived) 2007 350 4 346 2008 916 874 42 2009 548 456 92 2010 762 159 603 2011 1148 1082 66 2012 846 819 27 2013 590 585 5 2014 260 260 n/a 2015 292 292 n/a Grand total 5712 4531 1181 |
Filipe Send message Joined: 12 Aug 00 Posts: 218 Credit: 21,281,677 RAC: 20 |
Before Felipe asks his monthly question ... ;) Hello Richard. Just came to see if you post your monthly update. As there is not much official information, your input is really valuable for us crunchers. Thank you once again to taking the time to update the data history processed for us. It actually helps a lot on keeping interest on the project Filipe |
Ulrich Metzner Send message Joined: 3 Jul 02 Posts: 1256 Credit: 13,565,513 RAC: 13 |
Back after the outage, but: Replica seconds behind master 20,549 ...is rising! :O Aloha, Uli |
Ulrich Metzner Send message Joined: 3 Jul 02 Posts: 1256 Credit: 13,565,513 RAC: 13 |
See: Replica seconds behind master 22,349 :( Aloha, Uli |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Panic Mode off......replica now 10,261 behind. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
It was behind after an outrage and went further behind for a bit? :-O That's just typical of what happens these days after an outrage. ;-) Cheers. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13731 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
I've noticed a spike in inconclusives, now around 6.4% (it was around 4%). Seems to be 2 main modes, 1 My GPUs v x86_64-apple-darwin systems. Mostly against opencl_nvidia_mac & opencl_intel_gpu_sah applications. 2 My CPUs v windows-intelx86 CUDA42 Mixed in both 1&2 are several results where the spikes, pulses etc number match, but they've been decided not to be similar enough to validate. I notice that a lot of the inconclusives I've got, have come from 2-5 WUs that I've done all being done by the same machine. So the main cause of the sudden high number of inconclusives appears to be that when people get WUs they come as a group, so you get systems checking multiple WUs against each other. Also when a group of WUs are completed, and then come up as inconclusive they are released for re-processing as a bunch. So when they are re-allocated, they all go to the one system. I expect once this batch of inconclusives clears, my inconclusive rate will drop back down to around 4%, till the next time a batch goes to a machine. I notice that the splitters still tend to bunch up on particular files. If each splitter worked on just the 1 file, this clumping of WUs would be less of an issue and the allocation of WUs would tend to be more random; there would be less of 2 machine comparing multiple WUs against each other. Grant Darwin NT |
Chris Adamek Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 251 Credit: 434,772,072 RAC: 236 |
Both those OS X apps have a tendency to spit out inconclusives. There is a beta OS X CUDA app (http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?topic=191.msg4411;topicseen#new) that fixes a lot of that and is twice as fast. Maybe some of your wingmen will see this message... The most of the Intel iGPU's just barely work on OS X for this. Some work fine and others just spew inconclusives. The same chip can be fine on one machine and not on another. Chris |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13731 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
The most of the Intel iGPU's just barely work on OS X for this. Some work fine and others just spew inconclusives. The same chip can be fine on one machine and not on another. I don't think they're much better on Windows machines. It appears that Intel really need to sort out their drivers; they've given them OpenCL support but it would appear they haven't done much work in actually checking that their output is even remotely accurate. Grant Darwin NT |
Cruncher-American Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 1513 Credit: 370,893,186 RAC: 340 |
Question: since last evening sometime, I noticed a gradual decline in the number of tasks on my 2 machines, which normally have 600 WUs on them at any time. It's not like they have been totally shut out - they have been getting WUs in dribs and drabs, just not enough to keep stable or fill up. Any idea why this might be happening? Is anyone else noticing similar? All I did was switch from stock to Lunatics 44, but that shouldn't affect requests for new work, should it...or does it give me fewer until the new apps are figured out by the servers on my machines? Thanks for any advice... EDIT: I just noticed that at least some of the new v8s d/l for GPU have about 1/10 the GFLOPs in the estimate that they had before. Huh???? |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
or does it give me fewer until the new apps are figured out by the servers on my machines? IIRC until the server sees how long the new apps run it vastly over estimates the run times, hence you will get fewer work units. |
Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 1282 Credit: 187,688,550 RAC: 182 |
It will take 10 completed tasks to average and then things will go back to the way they were. Just have to wait for that 11th one. SETI@home classic workunits 4,019 SETI@home classic CPU time 34,348 hours |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22190 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Now that was an Uncalled for Pre-Outrage Panic... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Now that was an Uncalled for Pre-Outrage Panic... As an added bonus Einstein also was down at 7 am PDT. |
Link Send message Joined: 18 Sep 03 Posts: 834 Credit: 1,807,369 RAC: 0 |
Has the resend lost tasks feature been turned off? I have lost one WU while trying to get stock apps to run on NativeBOINC and the servers didn't send it back to me so far... |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13731 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Has the resend lost tasks feature been turned off? From what I can recall it's been disabled here at Seti@home for some time. As for other projects, no idea. Grant Darwin NT |
Link Send message Joined: 18 Sep 03 Posts: 834 Credit: 1,807,369 RAC: 0 |
OK, than I know... thanks. |
Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
Did you notice that the Astropulse science database on marvin is disabled? 9 days without any panic, but now that AP's are being split again, I think it would be a good idea to start the AP assimilators. They've been in state "Not running" for a day or so now. The number of Workunits waiting for assimilation for AP is growing and growing, and with new AP's being split and crunched again, if the AP assimilators aren't running, something will break, sooner or later. Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
Sleepy Send message Joined: 21 May 99 Posts: 219 Credit: 98,947,784 RAC: 28,360 |
And many errors in the splitting process, probably for the very same reason... Cheers. |
Phil Burden Send message Joined: 26 Oct 00 Posts: 264 Credit: 22,303,899 RAC: 0 |
Did you notice that the Astropulse science database on marvin is disabled? Damn, all those AP's NOT being produced, my poor gpu is starving ;-) Back to Einstein methinks, for now. P. |
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