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Message 1929607 - Posted: 12 Apr 2018, 17:22:34 UTC

Perhaps arming teachers is not such a good idea...

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla.—A Marjory Stoneman Douglas teacher was arrested after he left a loaded gun in a public restroom and a drunk homeless man found it and fired it, according to an arrest report from the Broward Sheriff’s Office.

Chemistry teacher Sean Simpson, 43, who was at the Parkland school during the Feb. 14 mass shooting that killed 17, told deputies on Sunday that he forgot the Glock 9 mm in a stall at a restroom at the Deerfield Beach Pier. No one was hurt during the incident.

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Message 1929616 - Posted: 12 Apr 2018, 18:20:29 UTC - in response to Message 1929600.  

As to Nevada, what you linked is rules of Las Vegas Convention Center, not Nevada law. Yes, Nevada voters passed a law to require the checks, but it is not enforceable due to a spat between the FBI and Nevada State authorities.
LVCC is a Nevada government facility. I've also seen states where every seller at the show must be a licensed dealer. A show promoter runs a rather large risk otherwise and I'm not sure you could get the necessary liability insurance. But YMMV.
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Message 1929646 - Posted: 12 Apr 2018, 21:33:08 UTC - in response to Message 1929553.  

In states such as Texas, an undocumented migrant is not allowed to get a driver’s license. But anyone — even a member of the MS-13 gang without papers — can potentially walk into a gun show and buy a semiautomatic rifle. Organized crime groups are taking advantage of this every day.


NYT - The Other Border Problem: American Guns Going to Mexico


Nice story...
But I think it's just that.
Is this widespread (maybe 2% of the sales)? It does make a good story to sell papers to those that never have been to a "Gun Show" and don't know any better.
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Message 1929662 - Posted: 12 Apr 2018, 22:09:21 UTC - in response to Message 1929646.  

In states such as Texas, an undocumented migrant is not allowed to get a driver’s license. But anyone — even a member of the MS-13 gang without papers — can potentially walk into a gun show and buy a semiautomatic rifle. Organized crime groups are taking advantage of this every day.


NYT - The Other Border Problem: American Guns Going to Mexico


Nice story...
But I think it's just that.
Is this widespread (maybe 2% of the sales)? It does make a good story to sell papers to those that never have been to a "Gun Show" and don't know any better.

Do you have any explanation how 75,000 firearms initially bought in the US find there way south of the border.
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Message 1929686 - Posted: 13 Apr 2018, 0:13:25 UTC - in response to Message 1929662.  

In states such as Texas, an undocumented migrant is not allowed to get a driver’s license. But anyone — even a member of the MS-13 gang without papers — can potentially walk into a gun show and buy a semiautomatic rifle. Organized crime groups are taking advantage of this every day.


NYT - The Other Border Problem: American Guns Going to Mexico


Nice story...
But I think it's just that.
Is this widespread (maybe 2% of the sales)? It does make a good story to sell papers to those that never have been to a "Gun Show" and don't know any better.

Do you have any explanation how 75,000 firearms initially bought in the US find there way south of the border.


Smuggling, of course.

Lots of firearms are stolen. Wind up in Mexico, and I believe Canada.

Straw purchasers buying from Federally licensed firearms dealers (especially in Arizona). Including with the help of the US Federal Government (Operation Fast & Furious back during the O'bummer Presidency).

Oh, and that opinion piece in the NYT is quite ignorant in what it says.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1929694 - Posted: 13 Apr 2018, 1:09:30 UTC - in response to Message 1929686.  

In states such as Texas, an undocumented migrant is not allowed to get a driver’s license. But anyone — even a member of the MS-13 gang without papers — can potentially walk into a gun show and buy a semiautomatic rifle. Organized crime groups are taking advantage of this every day.


NYT - The Other Border Problem: American Guns Going to Mexico


Nice story...
But I think it's just that.
Is this widespread (maybe 2% of the sales)? It does make a good story to sell papers to those that never have been to a "Gun Show" and don't know any better.

Do you have any explanation how 75,000 firearms initially bought in the US find there way south of the border.


Smuggling, of course.

Lots of firearms are stolen. Wind up in Mexico, and I believe Canada.

Straw purchasers buying from Federally licensed firearms dealers (especially in Arizona). Including with the help of the US Federal Government (Operation Fast & Furious back during the O'bummer Presidency).

You missed a huge source, Police.
https://www.pasadenastarnews.com/2018/03/02/pasadena-police-lt-vasken-gourdikian-arrested-suspecting-of-selling-guns-without-a-license-lying-in-statements/
https://www.scpr.org/news/2018/03/26/81906/2-more-southern-california-cops-indicted-on-federa/
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/2/16961146/baltimore-gun-trace-task-force-trial
https://apnews.com/163c0a50c84347b69e9c71d4266b1d9e
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Message 1929766 - Posted: 13 Apr 2018, 11:47:39 UTC

.... Which all adds up to the USA being awash with readily available guns...

What could possibly go wrong with that?...


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Message 1929801 - Posted: 13 Apr 2018, 18:55:45 UTC

A better way than shooting to apprehend suspects?
Send in a police dog.
US police dog brings Los Angeles car chase to an end
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Message 1929816 - Posted: 13 Apr 2018, 21:47:07 UTC - in response to Message 1929801.  

A better way than shooting to apprehend suspects?
Send in a police dog.
US police dog brings Los Angeles car chase to an end

Came by me last night, more coverage http://abc7.com/stolen-car-suspect-leads-authorities-on-erratic-chase-in-ie-la-county/3334903/
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Message 1929822 - Posted: 13 Apr 2018, 21:58:51 UTC - in response to Message 1929801.  

A better way than shooting to apprehend suspects?
Send in a police dog.
US police dog brings Los Angeles car chase to an end

More dogs at high school yards perhaps?
Tosca says Arf, Arf:)
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Message 1929858 - Posted: 14 Apr 2018, 2:16:44 UTC

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Message 1930618 - Posted: 18 Apr 2018, 1:40:02 UTC

Alex Jones Is Facing Two Lawsuits From Sandy Hook Families.

The families of two children murdered in the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre filed defamation lawsuits against Alex Jones, the popular right-wing conspiracy peddler, in a Texas court on Monday, The New York Times reports.

On multiple occasions, Jones has claimed that the Sandy Hook attack did not actually happen, calling the massacre – which claimed the lives of 20 first-graders and six teachers – a "giant hoax" and insisting that it was staged by professional actors. A representative for InfoWars, Jones' media company, did not immediately reply to a request for comment.

"Our clients have been tormented for five years by Mr. Jones' ghoulish accusations that they are actors who faked their children's deaths as part of a fraud on the American people," Mark Bankston, an attorney for the plaintiffs, told The Hollywood Reporter. "Enough is enough."
These sick right wing wackos like this need to be brought to justice.

Cheers.
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Message 1930620 - Posted: 18 Apr 2018, 1:41:57 UTC - in response to Message 1930618.  

Alex Jones Is Facing Two Lawsuits From Sandy Hook Families.

The families of two children murdered in the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre filed defamation lawsuits against Alex Jones, the popular right-wing conspiracy peddler, in a Texas court on Monday, The New York Times reports.

On multiple occasions, Jones has claimed that the Sandy Hook attack did not actually happen, calling the massacre – which claimed the lives of 20 first-graders and six teachers – a "giant hoax" and insisting that it was staged by professional actors. A representative for InfoWars, Jones' media company, did not immediately reply to a request for comment.

"Our clients have been tormented for five years by Mr. Jones' ghoulish accusations that they are actors who faked their children's deaths as part of a fraud on the American people," Mark Bankston, an attorney for the plaintiffs, told The Hollywood Reporter. "Enough is enough."
These sick right wing wackos like this need to be brought to justice.

Cheers.

The problem is they don't have enough money to compensate all their victims for their actions.
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Message 1930710 - Posted: 18 Apr 2018, 16:23:49 UTC

The Inventor of the Bump Stock Is Ending His Business
Bump stock manufacturer Slide Fire Solutions LP will stop taking orders and shut down its website next month. The closure comes after months of scrutiny caused by the use of a bump stock—an accessory that allows semi-automatic weapons to fire at the rate of an automatic—in the October 2017 mass shooting in Las Vegas, the deadliest in modern American history.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/the-inventor-of-the-bump-stock-is-ending-his-business/ar-AAvZCtd?li=BBnb7Kz
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Message 1930992 - Posted: 20 Apr 2018, 5:54:05 UTC

Time Magazine ranks five Parkland students among its 100 Most Influential People in 2018.

Five Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School students were named among Time Magazine's 100 Most Influential People in 2018 Wednesday.

They were just teenagers navigating life in a suburban high school prior to Feb. 14. But turning to gun control activism after Nikolas Cruz's shooting massacre that killed 17 and injured 15 put Jaclyn Corin, Emma González, David Hogg, Cameron Kasky and Alex Wind on Time's annual list.
Go Kids.

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Message 1931415 - Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 20:29:59 UTC - in response to Message 1931386.  

Another whacko on the loose

And he got his gun from the FBI!
https://apnews.com/adb9bf5dab8f41f79851bbc6c6dfe2ac/The-Latest:-Suspect-arrested-last-year-near-White-House
Metro Nashville Police Department spokesman Don Aaron said 29-year-old Travis Reinking’s firearms authorization was then revoked at the request of the FBI, and four weapons were seized, including the AR15 that he allegedly used in the shooting at the Waffle House restaurant early Sunday. Four people were killed.

Aaron says the four guns were returned
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Message 1931417 - Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 20:37:40 UTC - in response to Message 1931416.  

"Aaron says the four guns were returned to the suspect’s father, who acknowledged giving them back to his son."
All because America "loves" the 2nd amendment :-)
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Message 1931424 - Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 20:46:25 UTC - in response to Message 1931420.  

Didn't realise that America had those as well :-)
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Message 1931425 - Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 20:48:05 UTC - in response to Message 1931420.  
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"Aaron says the four guns were returned to the suspect’s father, who acknowledged giving them back to his son."
All because America "loves" the 2nd amendment :-)

Nope. Because the father is an idiot.

No the police are idiots, but that is a given.
If the kid didn't have the guns registered to him the cops should have kept them for an illegal transfer. If they were registered to the kid, when they gave them to the dad they made an illegal transfer. Police are 100% at fault in this one!
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