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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
You have THAT many guns and most of you Brits want to take OUR guns away from us or at the very least make us go through mountains of red tape just to own one??????? I did read everything and saw no relevance to what I was responding to. Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
I did read everything and saw no relevance to what I was responding to. It would have been hypocritical if he was suggesting others to have to undergo verification that he wasn't willing to himself, but this is not the case: "...but unlike you have been properly vetted by Anti-Terrorist Police, and had my Mental Health subject to scrutiny, before being authorised to legally possess, and I'm happy with the system..." So far I haven't seen a single person in this thread even suggest that it's a good idea to ban all firearms, or even confiscate them... proper background and mental health checks and perhaps ownership restrictions only for semi-automatic assault weapons (like that old lefty Ronald Reagan wanted) is as far as anyone has gone. And I'm still awaiting anyone to offer an explanation why they can be constitutionally OK with full-auto rifles being restricted but not OK with semi-autos... |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30639 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I did read everything and saw no relevance to what I was responding to. Didn't lefty Ronnie get his ban? Only it had a sunset. As to the latter, as there was a ban and it held up it will be a cold day in a warm place before someone will claim otherwise. The issue is the I WANT GUNS crowd is worried they aren't normal so if they had to pass a test they would fail. That and the additional cost they have to pay to take the test. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
But, if we wish to move in the correct direction regarding this Subject. Practicable and doable solutions are required.So with your knowledge & experience, you are in a better position than most to offer up some. YET you continually FAIL to do so? WHY is that? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
2 perfectly legitimate questions, which once again you FAIL to answer! Edited for spelling :-) |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
Hi Mr. Kevvy. Yes, I knew he would post something before your response to my reply regarding your fascinating observation and question I'm completely in agreement with him... I've asked you several times on several issues what your proposed solutions are and nothing; instead you constantly criticize others' solutions, and worse, overdramatize discussion into "scolding" as you did below. Well, last last time I checked, this was a discussion forum... that's what we do here. Nothing I write will likely affect anything anyways, being merely an uninformed foreigner and all. So, what do you propose to improve the situation? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Arrogance has always had one major issue - It knows no bounds! |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Your acknowledgment that neither you, nor your ally in this, have a practicable solution to change another Countries System of Government nor Culture in the next few years.Ally? I speak my mind without the need of an ally, I DO NOT run to the mods with tears in my eyes (which blinds me to the questions being raised). So we non-Americans & our allies changed the Constitution of the United States of America 17 times already since the original 10? Wow, I never knew that Americans were so insecure & unable to make important decisions for themselves. Who would have ever thought that would be possible? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Your continuous posting that the 2nd Amendment of the USA's Constitution will, in the next few years, be amended.Evidence? |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
Yes, I have no idea how to change our Culture within the next few years or perhaps decades. Changing your culture or constitution is not required. As I've pointed out numerous times (still without a reply as to why this isn't workable) fully-auto firearms were defined as weapons of war, not of self-defense, sport or hunting, and are heavily restricted, and this was found to be constitutional. So, the same can be done with semi-auto rifles and pistols with magazine sizes greater than a certain number of rounds... ie 6 or 7, ban anything that makes a semi- into a full-auto (ie bump stocks.) If someone wants one, they can be validated (ie register the weapon with the police, undergo a background and mental heath check, and repeat it periodically.) I'm only agreeing with Mr. Reagan and Trump here... you'll have to take it up with them. :^p (I also find it strange that the same people who hold up the police as heroes and want to give extended powers and minimal oversight to them tend to be the most strongly opposed to registering one's firearms with them. If they are heroes they won't go participating in "tyranny" by sharing this with any gun-grabber regime, right?) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
YAWN :-) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Seeing as it's lunchtime in Florida, suggest you cut back on the sangria :-) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Argentinian sangria? |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
since the Majority of Americans believe in their Right to keep and Bear Arms. Yes but shouldn't the Right to Stay Alive in Highschool have a higher priority than the Right to keep and Bear Arms? And why is not the Right to Stay Alive in Highschool an amendment in the US Constitution? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Ah but we non-Americans haven't the right to affect their culture & future of their nation. Well, at the rate they are going, we have no need to, they're doing a superb job themselves in corrupting their own culture & massacring their future :-( |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Ah but we non-Americans haven't the right to affect their culture & future of their nation. LOL. It's like having a discussion with a Kremlin offical about the right of self defence:) |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19048 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Ah but we non-Americans haven't the right to affect their culture & future of their nation. Does the 2nd need changing? Or does the type of firearms, including magazine size etc., presently allowed need changing? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19048 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Again you have Failed to answer the questions I posed. I'll try again. Does the 2nd need changing? - Yes/No. Give your reasons. Not your beliefs of what others might think. Does the types of firearm presently allowed need changing? - Yes/No. If No, tell me why semi-auto rifles and large magazines are acceptable. I'm not interested in your views on manually operated rifles, used for hunting and target shooting with limited sized magazines, or handguns. If Yes, tell me your own opinion on what weapons should now be allowed or disallowed. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19048 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
I still don't think that cleary answers my questions. But trying to get into your mind on the subject. If it was possible, would you repeal the 2nd and ban all gun ownership? |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
You point out the idiocracy is in full effect. We get the sort of government we deserve. Sadly we are choosing the right to have firepower over the right to life. |
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