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Message 1920812 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 3:56:49 UTC - in response to Message 1920729.  

Just FYI: The Virginia Tech. massacre ended up with almost twice as many dead (32 and 17 wounded) and was committed with just a pair of semi-automatic pistols. The shooter was also declared mentally ill beforehand, but was not committed.

That is the real problem. I have read that the number of people with mental health issues is 20,000,000. If correct, or 'just' millions.

If we cannot with 100% certainty determine who are the very few who would actually be a threat to many. Do we declare all those with mental health issues as potential threats to our kids?

Remember Cruz was under the treatment of a mental health counselor and after a visit to his home. Was deemed not to be dangerous.

I assume that number is the total of all the people having mental health problems now, today, or at least the average number/day.
But who and when do you restrict gun ownership to, when at least a third of all people suffer some form of mental health issues before old age.
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Message 1920813 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 3:58:33 UTC - in response to Message 1920802.  

Sickening if true!..

FOUR sheriff’s deputies “hid behind cars” instead of storming the Parkland high school while an ex-student killed 17 people inside, it has been revealed.
Video.

They were out gunned and they knew it.

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If now the US police force are scared and doesn't act, how can anybody think that arming school teachers is a good idea?
Oh. Trump and NRA does:(
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Message 1920819 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 4:22:06 UTC - in response to Message 1920813.  

Sickening if true!..

FOUR sheriff’s deputies “hid behind cars” instead of storming the Parkland high school while an ex-student killed 17 people inside, it has been revealed.
Video.

They were out gunned and they knew it.

Cheers.

If now the US police force are scared and doesn't act, how can anybody think that arming school teachers is a good idea?
Oh. Trump and NRA does:(

If some teachers are armed and charge off to tackle the gunman, what happens a few minutes later when the police arrive and storm the building. How will they differentiate between teachers and gunmen.

You only need to search for news about off duty police in civvies shot by their colleagues. That's right folks it is difficult to recognise who are friends in stressful situations.

I suppose you could enforce armed teachers to wear a uniform, but wouldn't that just be the same as putting a target on their chest front and back.
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Message 1920820 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 4:27:32 UTC - in response to Message 1920819.  

Sickening if true!..

FOUR sheriff’s deputies “hid behind cars” instead of storming the Parkland high school while an ex-student killed 17 people inside, it has been revealed.
Video.

They were out gunned and they knew it.

Cheers.

If now the US police force are scared and doesn't act, how can anybody think that arming school teachers is a good idea?
Oh. Trump and NRA does:(

If some teachers are armed and charge off to tackle the gunman, what happens a few minutes later when the police arrive and storm the building. How will they differentiate between teachers and gunmen.

You only need to search for news about off duty police in civvies shot by their colleagues. That's right folks it is difficult to recognise who are friends in stressful situations.

I suppose you could enforce armed teachers to wear a uniform, but wouldn't that just be the same as putting a target on their chest front and back.

And what if a teacher gets so pissed off with their class that they snap use that gun on the class?

Stupid thinking to say the least.

No cheers for stupidity.
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Message 1920821 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 4:33:47 UTC - in response to Message 1920797.  

The USA has a different culture than yours and a different foundation of laws.

A non understanding of these differences, or a refusal to acknowledge the differences, as with any other foreign culture in this diverse world. Is not helpful.

Regardless, our cultural differences are not pragmatic. As a society we are saying screw the results this is what we believe. The belief is not founded in in reality but so what? Religions are founded on belief as is the gun culture.
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Message 1920844 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 8:48:21 UTC

IMHO... har

OH! but what if... Out gunned... har...

The Cops were puzzies... FNG at it's finest if you have a clue... har!

Sorry no sympathy.

SF, USMC RVN '69-'70.

They will have to live with the 'possible' 17 deaths from their inaction.

PSTD will be at it's finest...

KARMA is a bitch.
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Message 1920849 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 11:16:13 UTC - in response to Message 1920797.  

The USA has a different culture than yours and a different foundation of laws.

A non understanding of these differences, or a refusal to acknowledge the differences, as with any other foreign culture in this diverse world. Is not helpful.
That's the most asinine post you've made to date. It'll soon be the 243rd anniversary of a famous speech.

"Give me liberty, or give me death!" is a quotation attributed to Patrick Henry from a speech he made to the Second Virginia Convention on March 23, 1775, at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia."

At that convention were two delegates who went on to become President - Thomas Jefferson & George Washington.

With the total of children/students murdered to date by SAW's what are the odds that some may have become...
President
Nobel Prize winner
Famed scientist

...and greatly enhanced both your culture & future of America?

The issue is there are too many old pharts out there who don't care for kids or their country's future but just wish to retain what they have with the opportunity to gain more. They love "Give me Liberty or give me Death". Yes, their liberty to continue their lifestyles & death for others as long as it isn't theirs!
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Message 1920850 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 11:57:38 UTC - in response to Message 1920849.  

Yep
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Message 1920856 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 12:56:29 UTC - in response to Message 1920855.  

Firemen have no problems entering a burning building. Are you inferring that your police are piss poor in that respect?
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Message 1920860 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 13:08:13 UTC - in response to Message 1920858.  

Before making any allegations from a foundation of ignorance of the facts. The exact timeline of the arrival of 'The Three' and then the arrival of those who entered. Would have to be known to make any determination.
Isn't the duty of the police to "Protect & Serve the community"?
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Message 1920863 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 13:24:31 UTC - in response to Message 1920861.  

Bullshyte.
Either use the 9th to effect changes or stand up & be counted demand change, otherwise you give the impression that you are one of those mentioned in the last comment of the "Give me liberty or give me death" post.
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Message 1920867 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 13:43:46 UTC
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There is light in the dark tunnel.
Trump just retweeted his own tweet from some days ago.
And having suggestions that the NRA doesn't like at all:)
I will be strongly pushing Comprehensive Background Checks with an emphasis on Mental Health. Raise age to 21 and end sale of Bump Stocks! Congress is in a mood to finally do something on this issue - I hope!
Makes very much sense to me.
Many of the mass shootings in high schools are done by students or recent ex-students.
Raising the age to 21 will hopefully make it so that they might have coming to terms with their high school experiences.
But that probing mental health more than it's done now will probably wont doing nothing.
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Message 1920870 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 13:57:30 UTC - in response to Message 1920869.  

Makes very much sense to me.
Many of the mass shootings in high schools are done by students or recent ex-students.
Raising the age to 21 will hopefully make it so that they might have coming to terms with their high school experiences.
But that probing mental health more than it's done now will probably wont doing nothing.

And if there are guns in the home that has people 21 or older?

Sigh...
In order to change something you have to start somewhere.
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Message 1920871 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 13:57:51 UTC - in response to Message 1920868.  

Yawn all you want.

"Scum" should not possess guns :-)

Wriggle out of that.
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Message 1920920 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 22:42:13 UTC

Some people talk big, but how many can actually walk the walk when your 9mm semi-auto pistol (50m effective range) is up against a .223 assault weapon (600m effective range)?

And what are yous going to do now that your NRA membership discounts are disappearing faster than hamburgers in a refugee camp?

Cheers.
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Message 1920924 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 23:03:19 UTC

Thankfully the young over there can see what the old fogies can't.

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Message 1920928 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 23:22:51 UTC - in response to Message 1920924.  

Thankfully the young over there can see what the old fogies can't.

Cheers.

Yep they get it alright.

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Message 1920942 - Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 23:59:15 UTC - in response to Message 1920932.  

What difference does it make?
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Message 1920944 - Posted: 25 Feb 2018, 0:03:23 UTC

What difference does it make?

Does that mean that you can't answer the question or that you won't on the grounds that you'll out yourself? Pleading the 5th maybe?

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Message 1920946 - Posted: 25 Feb 2018, 0:14:39 UTC

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