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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Informing those who are ignorant of our Constitution, SCOTUS decisions, legal differences among our States and cultural beliefs is... Is a cop out statement. Cheers. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Inside the USA. The Constitution, Law and Political Realities, are central to this discussion.Yep we know, hence the dismal 2 months of 2018 has shown. See the difference in our cultures and beliefs? I don't. Both the US and Sweden has about the same weapon laws. You only need to be 18 to own or possess a weapon and pass the tests that you are qualified. Yes and semi-automatic rifles like the Ruger 14 and AR-15 are legal and used here as well. The only difference is that in the US it's too easy and cheap to get a weapon and that so many use them to kill people and even kids! |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30648 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Both the US and Sweden has about the same weapon laws. Here no tests for qualification. Hence the mass murders of innocents. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
What 'qualifications' would have stopped Cruz:No qualifications would have stopped it. However the part of your quote that I emboldened is reason enough to ensure that he had no access to weapons. OH WAIT... ...that would take away one of his constitutional rights. Sheesh, what ever happened to common sense! |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
In the USA, you have no need for permission to own a gun. It is your Right. In the US you need a licence to every gun you own just as in Sweden. Right? In Florida, anyone excepting a convicted felon may carry a loaded handgun concealed in their car. A concealed gun is not a difference to an open gun. Right? And what do you mean by "Your Right"? Well in Sweden we also have the Right to protect ourself. Even using guns to do so if necessary. But do you know what? We don't have to go that far because that situation almost never happens. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Inside the USA. The Constitution, Law and Political Realities, are central to this discussion. Obviously the right to life is irrelevant. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
In the USA, you have no need for permission to own a gun. It is your Right. Hehe:) I think you already know the answer. But I tell you anyway. The concepts of Open Carry and Concealed weapons doesn't exist here. Why should it? Because someone has a serious phobia of seeing a gun. Give me a break! Loaded guns in public is not legal unless you are a police or a military on duty. Also when transporting guns in public that weapon have to be dissassembled and not loaded of course. Quite simple really. |
j mercer Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 2422 Credit: 12,323,733 RAC: 1 |
Sheriff’s Deputy Resigns to Avoid Suspension After Failing to Engage Florida School Gunman Take your pick: https://www.bing.com/search?q=Sheriff%E2%80%99s+Deputy+Resigns+to+Avoid+Suspension+After+Failing+to+Engage+Florida+School+Gunman&src=IE-SearchBox&FORM=IESR3N&pc=EUPP_ ... |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
The concepts of Open Carry and Concealed weapons doesn't exist here. Aaah. I love the smell of cow dung in the morning:) |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Interesting accusation. But doesn't address our Constitution and political realities. Sadly correct. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Aaah. I love the smell of cow dung in the morning:) Where I live we have more cowboys than cows. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Aaah. I love the smell of cow dung in the morning:) LOL. I have been a cowboy as well. When I was a boy of course:) Still missing Diana though that had to be put down by a gun after an accident that I was part of... |
j mercer Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 2422 Credit: 12,323,733 RAC: 1 |
Aaah. I love the smell of cow dung in the morning:) Yep! Concrete Cowboys they is pilgrim. har... ... |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30648 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Sheriff’s Deputy Resigns to Avoid Suspension After Failing to Engage Florida School Gunman Just another typical cop doing a typical job. Remember the union preaches that officer safety is the paramount importance and all other things are secondary. He had to wait for a vest. He figured out this time his union couldn't save his sorry Rump and his morals kicked in, but too late. Perception is everything. In the military they call that desertion under fire "Any member of the armed forces who— quits his unit, organization, or place of duty with intent to avoid hazardous duty or to shirk important service ... Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death" |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
The armed police officer stationed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, reportedly never set foot inside the school during the deadly shooting last Wednesday. "Scot Peterson was absolutely on campus through this entire event. He was armed. He was in uniform," said Sheriff Scott Israel in a Thursday press conference. "After seeing video, witness statements and Scot Peterson's very own statement, I decided this morning to suspend [him] without pay, pending an internal investigation." So how does anyone really think that arming teachers is a good idea when the police even doesn't dare/care to do their duty? |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I wonder what the NRA will do if 50 million students descend on their offices voicing their displeasure, shoot them? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30648 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I wonder what the NRA will do if 50 million students descend on their offices voicing their displeasure, shoot them? Noise canceling headphones, good for full auto too ... |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
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moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Arming teachers is a very bad idea as noted. https://twitter.com/TimfromDa70s/status/966764149408653312 Chris Kyle the greatest american sniper in the american military history was shot and killed when confronted by a "crazy guy" with a gun.Even Russia's state TV discussed Trump's proposal to arm teachers, says that most of his ideas are unorthodox, but this one is completely beyond reason. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19059 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
One solution would be a controlled entry, utilizing TSA Procedures 'light'. Including at least one armed law enforcement officer at the checkpoint and one armed law enforcement officer 'roving' the school. Who thinks that will stop school shootings? You can put my vote in the column marked "Never in a month of Sundays". |
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