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Message 1752498 - Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 17:55:34 UTC - in response to Message 1752375.  

If he does but the dump that he had posted pictures of It will a massive money pit.
One of the pics he posted looked like a dam sinkhole. And buying a house will cost you in repairs. I know I need a new roof. Cant afford this year or the next. will be 2017 whe I can afford it. The quote I got this years was $6500.OO US which I thought was ok. It will go up im sure. Next thing I need is windows and siding Im afraid to ask what a qoute would be.
Vic youd be better off staying where you are. The crap hole you want to buy is gargbage and will cost you dearly.

Personally I think if the house has been on the market that long its very likely over priced and I am sure he could know the price down. Then he might be able to afford the repairs depending on how bad they are.

Why cant you just rent a room from said relatives?

They might not have a room to rent or want to rent it to a relative.

From what I understand of Vic's living situation, he is in a very isolated area where it is difficult for him to access basic amenities. Certainly a move would improve his quality of life, however he figures out how to do it.
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Message 1752512 - Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 18:42:57 UTC - in response to Message 1752484.  

Listen to this Old White Man for once.
What is Exact Address of this Property?

Is it Listed? MLS #?

Seems Land is Worth $30,000+ and House has Zero Worth.

What are comparable land prices in this area?

What are Recent Sale Prices of Homes in Neighborhood?

Have any Houses Sold in Neighborhood in last many years?

What does Local/State Government Master Plan say for this Area?

Is all Property in Neighborhood Zoned Residential?

And Most Important: Is There An Alien Abduction Zone or UFO Activity?

Second Most Important: Do Neighbors Have Fingers/Fingerprints? Aliens, I'm not Sure About their Finger Physiology.


Yup and Yet so Yep.

I'm of the opinion that this indeed the case.

You would be buying the land because the house is worth ziltch, having been empty that long will need so many things doing to it, that building a new house there is the only sensible option. An option that does not apply in your case Vic.

I got my house as a "do it uppper", it had only been empty 6 weeks, but the previous occupant had recently died and had lived there for over 50 years.

They couldn't say when it had last been re-wired, we found lead pipework, a minor gas leak, and the nails holding the slate roof tiles were badly corroded. One side wall was showing signs of bulging, the ties holding the inner and outer wall had failed.

I paid just over half the price of area average and then spent the same again getting it how I wanted it. But I had the money, I paid cash, and didn't need to move in for 4 months from date of purchase.
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Message 1752513 - Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 18:50:34 UTC

Ok I'm putting up a pic, now some boxes like around the TV are there to keep Grace away from tasty plastic coated cables, two small boxes have auto parts and need to be labeled before I put them away, and of the 3 other boxes 1 could be put away, the other two are waiting for shelving and of course a new door knob to the small bedroom, Grace like laying on the big one of course.

I'd wanted to put the 73 inch long aquarium where the old dead TV is at, but until I get Burrtec Disposal out here for $26.60(the local waste disposal business, handles e-waste too), the TV stays there, since it needs 2 people to move that thing, it's not the weight, it's the size, that location is also a good place for a treadmill, the location where the aquarium is at now is good for earthquakes, but not fish, since I don't know if the aquarium is on 1 or on 2 floor joists, the aquarium needs to be on 2 to support the weight of nearly 1125lbs of water, the floor is fiberboard here, so yeah that's why the aquarium is empty.


Also My choice of Doctors is crap out here, they can't even weigh Me, their scale goes up to 300lbs, I requested a larger capacity scale and the request was ignored, plus I got a Doctor who ignores signs of circulation problems and says "Your Heart is fine", so far I haven't pulled out My Grandmas death certificate where death was by 'Hardening of the Arteries', I mentioned that and He ignored that too, but He's a family Doctor and that is all that will accept IEHP in Barstow CA, it's a small railroad town, if it were not for the fwy and the railroad, the town would vanish, like another Ghost Town...

The town would be Gone with the Wind...
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Message 1752535 - Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 20:34:16 UTC

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I had my 120 year old shotgun house preventively treated when I bought it in 2001, and I think it probably should be done again, but my mother's house was done in the 60's when they were using a chemical called chlordane(I think that's it), and I remember the termite inspector said something to me along the lines of that stuff was banned because it's so toxic, consequently my mother's house should be termite free for a very long time... lol ;~)
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Message 1752551 - Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 21:12:21 UTC - in response to Message 1752445.  

There is no room here for a treadmill

How much will one of them cost? Secondhand on Ebay of course, or knowing you a broken one. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just jog around the park? And in any case that is not a substantial enough reason for moving to a larger place.

You're digging a deeper hole for yourself Vic, and making excuses for a bad idea. Remember you asked what we thought, it's not our fault if you got told what you didn't want to hear. You haven't gone into this properly, and you know it. And there is of course the very big unanswered question which you have been avoiding. "Have you actually been to see the place yet or are you just looking at an agents pictures on their website?".

Chris that is a Medi-Cal(Medicaid in the other 49 states) eligible item, there just isn't room for one here, floor space...

It would certainly be better to have a treadmill than trying to jog in the desert. I don't think your area is known for its leafy parks. You'd probably kill yourself trying to do that. A treadmill might be a good idea for you if you actually use it.
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Message 1752561 - Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 21:52:08 UTC - in response to Message 1752551.  

There is no room here for a treadmill

How much will one of them cost? Secondhand on Ebay of course, or knowing you a broken one. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just jog around the park? And in any case that is not a substantial enough reason for moving to a larger place.

You're digging a deeper hole for yourself Vic, and making excuses for a bad idea. Remember you asked what we thought, it's not our fault if you got told what you didn't want to hear. You haven't gone into this properly, and you know it. And there is of course the very big unanswered question which you have been avoiding. "Have you actually been to see the place yet or are you just looking at an agents pictures on their website?".

Chris that is a Medi-Cal(Medicaid in the other 49 states) eligible item, there just isn't room for one here, floor space...

It would certainly be better to have a treadmill than trying to jog in the desert. I don't think your area is known for its leafy parks. You'd probably kill yourself trying to do that. A treadmill might be a good idea for you if you actually use it.

There is a park on a Map on the other side of the fwy Es, of course the park is only on the Map, in reality, it's just more desert where squirrels and lizards do play.

I just received an email back from My HMO IEHP, that Vantage will will cover a treadmill if My Doctor thinks I need one and IEHP won't stand in the way. Of course there is a fly in that ointment, My living room can't handle the extra electrical load, the bedrooms and both bathrooms here are all connected on one 20A breaker(with 14 gauge wire no less, it was wired that way, unknown to Me then when I bought the place in 2006), so even if I had the room, the dang thing can't be used, at least not without tripping the 15A breaker, the window a/c loaded the circuit to almost the max, I'd need an electrician to fix that, by splitting the living room into maybe 3 or 4 circuits, and while the guy is there moving one 20A circuit to a better place...

I'm taking between 4 and 8 pills a day, 2 ibuprofen and 2 acetaminophen just to move, yeah I could use it, walking outside can be a problem, in the summer temps as high as 115F have happened and lows of 18F in the Winter, currently the temp outside is 48F, here in the southern part of the deep freeze. ;) Plus I can't stand or walk for long without some support, just taking 2 bags to the trash bin was an effort, not so much on the way there, but on the way back, My back being stiff wanted some extra support, so I walked to a table, then to the parks merry go round, then to a low wall, then to My car next to the home and then in the door, which I was afraid would not open, it did open, sometimes the door knob works and sometimes the lock is acts like it's locked and won't turn.

In any case the manager just showed up, I've got an electric bill that's a real shocker $187.14, I should have not bought that second electric heater, they work, but I've got triple the bill... Well the price on two pair of jeans that I wanted to buy went up by 25%(used to be about 44.99ea, now are 59.99ea before any sales tax), which means $140.96 for 2 pairs before taxes, 1 pair would be $70.48 and then I still don't know how to add $5.99 for hemming to the total on Amazon, nor a note as to how long... so there went the jeans, the electric bill ate them up...
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Message 1752627 - Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 7:23:14 UTC

Vic seeing as the big fish tank is empty, Get rid of it and get a tread mill. Whats more important? Looking at fish that you have to spend money on to maintain or your health?
Two, Call a pet store and ask what products they have that are safe to prevent Grace from chewing your wires.

As for electric heaters when you use them they cost money. I use them also. but only as needed, Not as a stand alone source of heat.
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Message 1752635 - Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 8:36:50 UTC - in response to Message 1752551.  

It would certainly be better to have a treadmill than trying to jog in the desert


I would stay away from the desert at night, I saw on
TV that you have dinosaurs walking around down there.


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You would get in shape fast running away from one of them...
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Message 1752665 - Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 13:13:47 UTC

There are exercises that may be more appropriate for Vic at this time, and don't require the use of machines.
Simple mobility improvers like, while sitting in a chair raising each leg in turn so that the knee is straight, with the heel level with seat squab, hold it there for a count of three then lower to the floor. Repeating this twenty times with each leg four times a day. As the strenght and mobility improve place a weight on each ankle. The weight can be a simple bag of sand weighing about 5lb to start with.
Varients on this add bending the ankle of the raised leg so the sole of the foot is flat to the floor, or at least as flat as possible.

Similarly for the arms, while sitting in an upright chair raise both arms out to the side elbows straigth, hold in the horizontal position for a count of three, raise to vertical and hold for three, lower to the horzontal in front for three, and the relax. Twenty repeats, increasing the increase to fifty before adding some weight, the same bags of sand as used for the legs can be used.
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Message 1752671 - Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 14:18:39 UTC - in response to Message 1752627.  
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Vic seeing as the big fish tank is empty, Get rid of it and get a tread mill. Whats more important? Looking at fish that you have to spend money on to maintain or your health?
Two, Call a pet store and ask what products they have that are safe to prevent Grace from chewing your wires.

As for electric heaters when you use them they cost money. I use them also. but only as needed, Not as a stand alone source of heat.



Ok I need to clear up a few BIG misconceptions here.

1. My gas heater is broken, I've taken steps to rectify this problem.
2. The electric heaters are My only source of heat until CAPSBC can repair the old gas heater or install a new gas heater.
3. The application is in the mail, along with all required documents.
4. A treadmill won't work here, why? If I turn the wall a/c on the circuit breaker will reset the circuit, the wall a/c needs a dedicated 15A circuit, there is nowhere here where I could run a treadmill at present, I can't even install a 2nd a/c unit in the bedroom, since the circuit there covers 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms on a 20A breaker, when that should be two circuits each on a 15A breaker of their own, no I didn't wire this place this way, it was like this when I bought the place and I had no idea about this.

Now as to the Aquarium and where I live...

1. I would have to prove the aquarium does not leak.
2. I can't fill the aquarium with WATER in the present location, the aquarium has to be moved before doing that.
3. Water weighs about 9lbs per gallon, this one holds 125 gallons of Water, the water alone would weigh just over 1/2 a ton or 1125lbs if the aquarium were filled, the floor in the present location is made of Fiberboard and is a bad location, too risky, but then you and Chris seemed to not have read what I typed.
4. Selling a used Aquarium is more difficult here, since where I live at is very remote(Yermo to Los Angeles as an example is 125.1 miles, and Yermo to Las Vegas NV is 144.1 miles) and people would have to pick this up and can not be delivered, the aquarium is made of GLASS and requires a few people to move out the door and into a pickup truck or a station wagon or a minivan or a van.
5. Grace won't chew on what She thinks is electrical anymore, but what isn't, She will chew on still, just cause it has plastic insulation. My solution you may not like, it costs Me Nothing, nada, zip, ZERO...
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Message 1752674 - Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 14:38:25 UTC - in response to Message 1752669.  

Those are good ideas Rob, but I would suggest that he is initially assessed and counseled by a trained physiotherapist first. It may well be that he needs to reduce his body mass substantially, before any exercise has a beneficial effect. I would think that if he was to approach his doctor with the description that he posted here

Plus I can't stand or walk for long without some support, just taking 2 bags to the trash bin was an effort, not so much on the way there, but on the way back, My back being stiff wanted some extra support, so I walked to a table, then to the parks merry go round, then to a low wall, then to My car next to the home and then in the door,

I can't believe that any doctor faced with that evidence, plus his age and weight, would not get something done pretty damn quick, even out in the sticks where Vic lives. Things should never have been left to get to this stage. Never mind all this house business, Vic needs practical help in the very near future, but the impetus has to come from him. I'm limited to what I can do 6000 miles away, but I'll give what help I can.

You don't have the mindset out here of thinking that people are faking stuff either, so some Doctors are very skeptical and brush off what they hear, it's why I haven't gone to the Doctor in over 6 months, I mean like why bother?

Plus the office has no proof of what I weigh, since their scale only goes to 300lbs, I've asked for a scale that goes to 500lbs and the guy who runs the office said NO. So I have to rely on Vons Super Market, which has a scale that goes to at least 500lbs to weigh Myself at, that's 12 miles to travel one way, just to get Myself weighed, then go the Doctors Office, then another 12 miles home, My car gets about 25 miles per gallon of gasoline(petrol).

And My half broke scale here? It needs 4 AA rechargeable batteries that I can put in My Duracell charger. Why half broke? Bad packing on the part of a seller.
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Message 1752695 - Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 16:54:38 UTC - in response to Message 1752692.  

You don't have the mindset out here of thinking that people are faking stuff either, so some Doctors are very skeptical and brush off what they hear,

You are suggesting that doctors in your part of America appear to think that their patients are a bunch of malingerers or hypochondriacs. Is this something particular to California or more widespread, and why should this be?

it's why I haven't gone to the Doctor in over 6 months, I mean like why bother?

I would need to speak to your doctor to get his side of the story, before I could fully comment, but that is not possible because of patient confidentiality. If you feel that there is no two way dialogue between you and your doctor, can you request to change to another surgery? Or take a third party along to a consultation. Either way I would judge that you need medical attention. Because the UK is a smaller country we can get home visits within reason.

Plus the office has no proof of what I weigh, since their scale only goes to 300lbs, I've asked for a scale that goes to 500lbs and the guy who runs the office said NO. So I have to rely on Vons Super Market, which has a scale that goes to at least 500lbs to weigh Myself at,

Medical scales up to 500lbs are less than $200 so no particular problem for a medical practice I would have thought.

My car gets about 25 miles per gallon of gasoline(petrol).

That is an American gallon which is equivalent to about 30mpg from an Imperial gallon in the UK. I think you have an Escort XR2 cabriolet or similar. They do about 38mpg in the UK or about 31mpg in the states. Sounds like your engine needs a service.

And My half broke scale here? It needs 4 AA rechargeable batteries that I can put in My Duracell charger. Why half broke? Bad packing on the part of a seller.

Two points here, firstly 4 x AA rechargeables are about $8 + delivery, a lot cheaper than $70 jeans. Secondly, why did you not send the scales back for a refund?

Yes, incredible isn't it?
I'd have to drive to Victorville CA, that's 45 miles away from here.
Evidently the guy thinks that is too expensive, it's a family practice.
It's an Escort zx2, the Hot Coupe, passes smog everytime it's tested.
You don't have holes in your pockets do you?
If I'm lucky, I'll buy 4, I'm not sure of when though, money isn't plentiful here and the money can only be stretched so far.
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Message 1752699 - Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 17:04:12 UTC
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It's much easier to write solutions to other people's problems than it is to solve them when they are your own and you're on your own, I think, however well-meant it is. And when you're not able to throw money at a problem to fix it, necessity is the mother of improvisation *blink at setizens* yes, I know I changed it :) so I understand box blockades to protect wiring, etc. In my case it was when a four month old kitten, abandoned on my doorstep, launched fifteen newborns *still-shocked blink* into my home a few weeks after I took her in. But that's not why I'm posting. I'm posting to say:

Vic, I wish you every success in reaching your goal :)

edit: and keep thinking out loud here about it - because we do care and practical advice and solutions will be useful to bear in mind.

oh...and did we say we like humans too? Well we do :)
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Message 1752702 - Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 17:17:49 UTC

Chris S Said:
I'm limited to what I can do 6000 miles away, but I'll give what help I can.


If I Said Above-which I wouldn't, ever-it would mean: I Would Send A Huge Amount to His PP Acct. I would call a Local Electrical Contractor and have them come out to Settle Every Electrical Issue he has. Call a Home Repair Contractor to take care of All Door/etc. Issues.

Or, if Above is Not Wanted and He HAS TO HAVE Home He is 'Talking About', I Would Pay and Also Financially Back His Settlement into this Home.

If One or Many are Not Wanting and Able to Help in These Ways-Why Bother with This Situation, At All?

Please Explain?

If I Did Not Completely Make Clear, I Can't Help, Nor Would I If I Could.

I Don't See One Bit of Advice or Opinion being of benefit so far, and Don't Believe Any is Forthcoming.

So, Someone Explain Point of Excercise Here.

anniet said:
edit: and keep thinking out loud here about it - because we do care and practical advice and solutions will be useful to bear in mind.


Having Read Episodes Like This So Many Times Before from OP, Your Sentiment is Totally Wrong.

Yep is So Yup.

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 1752703 - Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 17:20:28 UTC
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I agree with Annie (edit: and the angry white man surprisingly) and would like to suggest that those people here offering 'help' remember to watch their tone. With out meaning to I am sure, some of you are coming off as a little rude.

Vic is putting his situation out there, and such an act of trust should be met with understanding and a willingness to put yourself in his shoes.

Hopefully none of you have had to deal with such financial difficulties or living in such an isolated area, so you will have to rely on your imagination and remember that your own experiences are very unlikely to map directly onto Vics.
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Message 1752739 - Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 21:02:27 UTC - in response to Message 1752703.  

I take back the dinosaur story.....



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Good luck with it Vic, you know we are pulling for you...
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Message 1752750 - Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 21:33:31 UTC - in response to Message 1752739.  

I take back the dinosaur story.....



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Good luck with it Vic, you know we are pulling for you...

Thanks Celt, yeah, I'm doing what I can, as I can, somewhere from August 1st 2017 to December 2017 I should have all or most of My cards paid off. Starting with the smallest, ending with the largest.

Now I'm going to watch the TV, My feet are cold, even with shoes and socks on.

Oh and Peggy Sues Restaurant(on the i15 fwy near Barstow CA) has some steel dinosaur sculptures out in back.

Soon I hope to have gas heat again here, I completed an application for either a free new gas heater or to have work done on My old gas heater, I'd forgotten a piece of paper and had the Post Office hold the envelope this morning, that I'd mailed yesterday, now with new tape, the application is on the way, and I'm done. Later.
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Message 1752752 - Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 21:52:26 UTC

As 2015 crawls over the Western Horizon into its sunset, and 2016 starts to peep over the Eastern horizon into its dawn I hope that this year brings you a better hand than 2015 did.
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Message 1752768 - Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 22:38:05 UTC - in response to Message 1752752.  
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I give Vic, credit for dreaming a better life for himself. :-)
He has always been straight forward here. He means well.
Walk a mile in his shoes, then come back and give constructive criticism.

Happy New Year, Vic. :-)

carry on, off my soap box. :-)
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Message 1752777 - Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 23:24:58 UTC

Thanks Rob and Lynn, May the 4th be with you both.

I'd seen this place, which is on the same block and street as My nephew lives on,
it's for $67,000.00 and is 1810sqft on a 7684sqft lot, with 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms, built in 1980, 36yrs old.
Listed as both a 3 bedroom and a 2 bedroom, weird.
The mobile home has what appears to be two windows broken or just boarded up,
though inside there doesn't appear to be any damage at all,
sorry there are only 6 pics, yeah I'm watching this one. Some pics are badly done.

The payment assumes a 5.5% down payment is or should be $347 a month(according to realtor.com),
I paid $320 a month in rent for an entire year a couple years back,
I doubt I'd be approved at this amount, but that's what a real estate agent is for, among other duties.
Zillow says $470 a month for 30yrs and is Bank Owned and no I'm just watching this,
who knows, it might come down under $45,000.00, then I could afford it.



A one car garage is included.

The living/dining room, big looking.

The kitchen, Lots of built in's.

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