Transportation Safety 3

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John McCallum Send message Joined: 5 Dec 04 Posts: 877 Credit: 599,458 RAC: 8	Message 1878796 - Posted: 17 Jul 2017, 21:41:13 UTC http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/17/jesus_7000lb_pipe_bridge_incident/ Old enough to know better(but)still young enough not to care ID: 1878796 · Reply Quote

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1879318 - Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 20:37:19 UTC Too close for comfort ID: 1879318 · Reply Quote

David S Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12	Message 1879334 - Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 22:44:37 UTC Jury blames Big Bad Railroad David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. ID: 1879334 · Reply Quote

Grant (SSSF) Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13732 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304	Message 1879370 - Posted: 21 Jul 2017, 5:10:27 UTC - in response to Message 1879334. Jury blames Big Bad Railroad How in hell can the railroad be held responsible for the other people's stupidity? That is beyond ridiculous. Grant Darwin NT ID: 1879370 · Reply Quote

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32	Message 1879386 - Posted: 21 Jul 2017, 6:01:42 UTC - in response to Message 1879370. Jury blames Big Bad Railroad How in hell can the railroad be held responsible for the other people's stupidity? That is beyond ridiculous. Welcome to jury selection, where smart people figure out how to get off serving. Clue #1, no owners representative on site. Never heard of any filming where there wasn't an owners representative present. But hey, I live near Hollywood so maybe I know too much to serve on a jury. ID: 1879386 · Reply Quote

David S Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12	Message 1879447 - Posted: 21 Jul 2017, 16:22:04 UTC - in response to Message 1879386. Jury blames Big Bad Railroad How in hell can the railroad be held responsible for the other people's stupidity? That is beyond ridiculous. Welcome to jury selection, where smart people figure out how to get off serving. Clue #1, no owners representative on site. Never heard of any filming where there wasn't an owners representative present. But hey, I live near Hollywood so maybe I know too much to serve on a jury. If the railroad had granted permission for the shoot, they would have had someone there to talk to the trains. They did not grant permission, therefore the entire movie shoot amounted to criminal trespass. Plaintiffs apparently claimed two earlier trains went by the site and didn't report the movie crew to their dispatcher. My response is, the movie crew wasn't on the track then and the train crews had no way to know they would be on it later. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. ID: 1879447 · Reply Quote

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32	Message 1879508 - Posted: 21 Jul 2017, 21:00:54 UTC - in response to Message 1879447. Jury blames Big Bad Railroad How in hell can the railroad be held responsible for the other people's stupidity? That is beyond ridiculous. Welcome to jury selection, where smart people figure out how to get off serving. Clue #1, no owners representative on site. Never heard of any filming where there wasn't an owners representative present. But hey, I live near Hollywood so maybe I know too much to serve on a jury. If the railroad had granted permission for the shoot, they would have had someone there to talk to the trains. They did not grant permission, therefore the entire movie shoot amounted to criminal trespass. Plaintiffs apparently claimed two earlier trains went by the site and didn't report the movie crew to their dispatcher. My response is, the movie crew wasn't on the track then and the train crews had no way to know they would be on it later. I know, but my point was from the film production side. Every below the line person who has ever worked on a location set has bumped into an owners rep at one time or another. Not finding one, every below the line person knew, or should have known, they were trespassing. ID: 1879508 · Reply Quote

David S Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12	Message 1879541 - Posted: 21 Jul 2017, 23:39:10 UTC - in response to Message 1879508. I know, but my point was from the film production side. Every below the line person who has ever worked on a location set has bumped into an owners rep at one time or another. Not finding one, every below the line person knew, or should have known, they were trespassing. I found an article that quoted several such people who wondered and asked about that and were reassured they had permission and that no more trains were expected. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. ID: 1879541 · Reply Quote

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32	Message 1879560 - Posted: 22 Jul 2017, 0:56:05 UTC - in response to Message 1879541. I know, but my point was from the film production side. Every below the line person who has ever worked on a location set has bumped into an owners rep at one time or another. Not finding one, every below the line person knew, or should have known, they were trespassing. I found an article that quoted several such people who wondered and asked about that and were reassured they had permission and that no more trains were expected. Sounds like the alarm bells were ringing and the back of neck hairs raised, but just not loud enough. ID: 1879560 · Reply Quote

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1879951 - Posted: 23 Jul 2017, 19:57:44 UTC Definitely not how to run a transport system... "the only person with keys had decided to not come in". ...only in England :-) ID: 1879951 · Reply Quote

John McCallum Send message Joined: 5 Dec 04 Posts: 877 Credit: 599,458 RAC: 8	Message 1880665 - Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 0:24:47 UTC - in response to Message 1879951. It is ridiculous to only have one key holder. I think someone is in need of more training. Definitely not how to run a transport system... "the only person with keys had decided to not come in". ...only in England :-) Old enough to know better(but)still young enough not to care ID: 1880665 · Reply Quote

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874	Message 1880749 - Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 7:13:08 UTC Driver writes off brand new Ferrari Some people have more money than sense... Unfortunately, he didn't collect a Darwin award as well. ID: 1880749 · Reply Quote

Grant (SSSF) Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13732 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304	Message 1880752 - Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 8:00:00 UTC - in response to Message 1880749. Last modified: 28 Jul 2017, 8:03:58 UTC Driver writes off brand new Ferrari Some people have more money than sense... Unfortunately, he didn't collect a Darwin award as well. I'd hope he gets charged with Dangerous & negligent driving, Driving without due care, etc, or all of the above. At the very least, Incredible acts of stupidity. EDIT- it's a shame fines aren't based on ability to pay. $1,500 for someone on part time casual rates will take them years to pay. Spare change for someone who can get an almost $500,000 car. Grant Darwin NT ID: 1880752 · Reply Quote

rob smith Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22190 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380	Message 1880758 - Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 9:28:33 UTC Plus drugs and alcohol tests. I bet his insurance company will "love" him. As for fines - if it can be proven that he was exceeding the speed limit then the fine is related to his income: From April 24, 2017: Band A â€“ This refers to the lowest level of speeding. For example, you could be driving at between 21mph and 30mph in a 20mph zone, 31mph to 40mph in a 30mph zone, or 71mph to 90mph on a 70mph road. You can expect 3 points on your licence, and a fine of around 50% of your weekly income. Band B â€“ This is for more serious cases of speeding. If you're in a 20mph zone and you drive at 31mph to 40mph, or in a 40mph zone at 56mph to 65mph, or up to 100mph in a 70mph, that'll be a Band B fine. That means 4 to 6 points on your licence, or disqualification for between 7 and 28 days, plus a fine of 100% of your weekly income. Band C â€“ This is for the most egregious speeding. If you're doing 41mph or above in a 20mph zone, 51mph or above in a 30mph zone, or above 100mph in a 70mph zone, that's a Band C fine. That means 6 points on your licence or disqualification for between 7 and 56 days, as well as a fine of 150% of your weekly income. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? ID: 1880758 · Reply Quote

Grant (SSSF) Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13732 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304	Message 1880762 - Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 9:48:25 UTC - in response to Message 1880758. As for fines - if it can be proven that he was exceeding the speed limit then the fine is related to his income: I wish we could get something like that here. Grant Darwin NT ID: 1880762 · Reply Quote

David S Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12	Message 1880817 - Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 19:35:10 UTC - in response to Message 1880762. As for fines - if it can be proven that he was exceeding the speed limit then the fine is related to his income: I wish we could get something like that here. So do I. Republican politicians would never go for it. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. ID: 1880817 · Reply Quote

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1880939 - Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 12:27:47 UTC Unbelievable stupidity ID: 1880939 · Reply Quote

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32	Message 1880961 - Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 15:37:36 UTC - in response to Message 1880939. Unbelievable stupidity Yes, but whose stupidity? Says there is a work zone on the track nearby. I bet that means the track is speed restricted. Did they change the signal barriers for the new lower track speed limit? ID: 1880961 · Reply Quote

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1880973 - Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 16:27:45 UTC - in response to Message 1880961. Whether one is hit by a train at 10mph or 50mph, it's gonna hurt. ID: 1880973 · Reply Quote

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32	Message 1880986 - Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 17:29:33 UTC - in response to Message 1880973. Whether one is hit by a train at 10mph or 50mph, it's gonna hurt. Yep, and encouraging people to cross by putting the gates down 10 minutes before they need to be down ... ID: 1880986 · Reply Quote

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