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Message 1840849 - Posted: 8 Jan 2017, 17:46:54 UTC - in response to Message 1840840.  

They're zones where no parking is allowed., normally Zebra (Pedestrian) Crossings & School entrances.
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Message 1841401 - Posted: 11 Jan 2017, 12:23:33 UTC

A truck driver with a different attitude towards bridges :-)

"The lorry on the Forth Road Bridge blew over at about 02:00 GMT. A spokesman for the bridge-operating company said the bridge was closed to HGVs at the time."

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Message 1841422 - Posted: 11 Jan 2017, 13:57:19 UTC - in response to Message 1841401.  

And quite properly already charged with dangerous driving.
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Message 1841459 - Posted: 11 Jan 2017, 16:51:31 UTC - in response to Message 1841422.  

And quite properly already charged with dangerous driving.


Its what he should expect for trying to cross when when a vehicle restriction is in place.

I have had to park up or divert on a number of occasions due to inclement weather conditions, or stopped to open up and tie back curtains with an empty trailer.
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Message 1841869 - Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 13:24:18 UTC - in response to Message 1841459.  

And quite properly already charged with dangerous driving.


Its what he should expect for trying to cross when when a vehicle restriction is in place.

I have had to park up or divert on a number of occasions due to inclement weather conditions, or stopped to open up and tie back curtains with an empty trailer.

This numptie really has no excuse as Currie International is based in Scotland Dumfries IIRC. He's lucky this is now a toll free bridge as I could see the Bridge Company coming after him for lost tolls ,was a toll bridge until recently.
Old enough to know better(but)still young enough not to care
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Message 1841887 - Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 14:35:48 UTC - in response to Message 1841869.  

While you have numpties like him & this one who think they're above the law, one will never truly have safe transport.

What's the fare Cabbie? 2 Rum & Blacks please
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Message 1842690 - Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 1:55:16 UTC

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/dozens-killed-boeing-747-crashes-village-n707236
A cargo jet crashed into a village near Kyrgyzstan's main airport on Monday, killing dozens of people on the ground.

The Boeing 747 had been trying to land in intermittent dense fog, local officials told NBC News. The aircraft had five people on board.

Tolgonai Stamaliyeva, a government spokesperson, said the plane destroyed more than 20 houses.

Plumes of smoke rose above the crash site, with some buildings razed to the ground and others pierced by parts of the plane.

Why would you try and land - bust minimum altitude - if you couldn't see the runway?
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Message 1842705 - Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 3:05:19 UTC - in response to Message 1842690.  

Why would you try and land - bust minimum altitude - if you couldn't see the runway?

Blind faith in GPS?
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Message 1842723 - Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 4:23:22 UTC - in response to Message 1842705.  
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Why would you try and land - bust minimum altitude - if you couldn't see the runway?

Blind faith in GPS?

Once you are on the ground, you still have to find the taxiway ...
<ed>I know different problem, worry about that one when it comes up.
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Message 1842734 - Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 6:03:06 UTC

They don't use GPS for finals. They should have been coming in along the ILS glide slope, and it sounds as if he was on the low side of it.
(You would be scared if you saw how many planes come in with very poor visibility - airports don't get closed becaue planes can't see to land, but because they can't see to taxi off the runway)
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Message 1842743 - Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 6:38:36 UTC - in response to Message 1842734.  
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They don't use GPS for finals.
Depends on the airport and the approach.

They should have been coming in along the ILS glide slope, and it sounds as if he was on the low side of it.
(You would be scared if you saw how many planes come in with very poor visibility - airports don't get closed becaue planes can't see to land, but because they can't see to taxi off the runway)
Apparently that airport does have an ICAO CAT II ILS, 100 foot ceiling, 1100 foot RVR. I haven't found a plate for it, so I don't know if they have RVR measuring equipment or ground radar that would show if some idiot parked a truck in the ILS no go area and screwed up the signal.

Of course the pilot or aircraft might not have been certified for CAT II operations, or many other factors we won't know about until after the investigation is finished.

All we can guess now is he either got to 100 feet above the runway where he would need to see it to continue and thought he did, or just cheated a bit too much, or his instruments weren't telling him the truth about his aircraft position. I'm rather sure that aircraft would have a radar altimeter in addition to the barometric one. I suspect "get-home-itis"

<ed>Found AFD plate and there are a lot of cautions on it. One being the ILS no-go area is not protected. Another being altimeter settings being either QNH or QFE and the pilot must query to know which. Also something about meteorological interference with low ceilings and visibility to the ILS/GS signal.
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Message 1842881 - Posted: 18 Jan 2017, 15:44:18 UTC

For years improving technology has assisted in transport safety. However, in doing so...

...sorry mum, I missed the alarm call
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Message 1842908 - Posted: 18 Jan 2017, 19:24:25 UTC - in response to Message 1842904.  

Yep, unfortunately the one thing technology has never been able to do & never will, is improve the Mk1 GPS or Mk 1 Computer systems.
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Message 1842914 - Posted: 18 Jan 2017, 19:34:25 UTC - in response to Message 1842904.  

That is truly tragic ......


Why is it tragic ??

She did not pull over to take the picture and post it; instead, she did it while she was driving. While Courtney was busy submitting her post, her Toyota Corolla went across the center median and into oncoming traffic.


She shouldn't of been using her mobile end off , The amount of people that use their mobiles while in control of a vehicle supries this doesn't happen far more often .

Might be the reason there's a law against using mobiles when driving in this country , shame to many tw~ts think they're above the law !!
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Message 1842915 - Posted: 18 Jan 2017, 19:43:13 UTC - in response to Message 1842914.  

Just proves the old adage "Women can multi-task" false.
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Message 1842975 - Posted: 19 Jan 2017, 4:54:29 UTC - in response to Message 1842914.  
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That is truly tragic ......

Why is it tragic ??

That someone so educated would do something so incredibly stupid.
I feel sorry for the driver of the truck. There are times when it doesn't matter how well you drive, or how aware you are of what is going on around you, that you still can't avoid a crash.
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Message 1842980 - Posted: 19 Jan 2017, 5:08:45 UTC - in response to Message 1842975.  

That is truly tragic ......

Why is it tragic ??

That someone so educated would do something so incredibly stupid.
I feel sorry for the driver of the truck. There are times when it doesn't matter how well you drive, or how aware you are of what is going on around you, that you still can't avoid a crash.

Texting, surfing, facebooking, and the like while driving should face the same penalty as drunk driving.
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Message 1842984 - Posted: 19 Jan 2017, 5:24:31 UTC - in response to Message 1842980.  

Texting, surfing, facebooking, and the like while driving should face the same penalty as drunk driving.

And enforced as vigorously.
Here there are weekly and weekend drink driving blitzes by the police. If they went as hard on mobile phone usage they'd cover the costs of their overtime & probably pull the state budget back in the black. And even prevent a few crashes and the occasional death.
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Message 1843003 - Posted: 19 Jan 2017, 8:29:51 UTC - in response to Message 1842975.  

I feel sorry for the driver of the truck. There are times when it doesn't matter how well you drive, or how aware you are of what is going on around you, that you still can't avoid a crash.


I knew a couple of drivers who have stopped HGV driving due to 'not at fault' fatal accidents, one of which eventually took his own life.

The same is true for train drivers, suicide by train is fairly common in some areas of the UK.
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Message 1843778 - Posted: 22 Jan 2017, 12:47:59 UTC - in response to Message 1843770.  

The same is true for train drivers, suicide by train is fairly common in some areas of the UK.

Certainly at some South London stations there are more than average "a person under a train" occurrences. As far as I know a driver involved in a fatality, is encouraged to get back in the cab as soon as possible afterwards, else they will likely never drive a train again. I don't know how accurate that is. And I honestly don't know whether that is right or wrong. What about PTSD?

Back in the early 1990's I did some work to settle a dispute between British Rail and their client over the specification for some electronics for trains based at Seven Kings, on the Liverpool - Shenfield line. At that time they were getting about two "suicide by train" incidents a month. Found that out after we were forced into an unplanned overnight stay in Ilford due to one such incident.
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