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Message 1743369 - Posted: 19 Nov 2015, 18:03:47 UTC

If KIC 8462852 really is harboring an advanced alien civilization, ought we to have seen something in existing radio surveys? Michael Garrett, director of ASTRON in the Netherlands, investigates:
http://mikegarrett.blogspot.nl/2015/10/another-hint-that-kepler-system.html
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Message 1743558 - Posted: 20 Nov 2015, 7:45:51 UTC

Well, there are some things that don't stand up to research:
1. GSM signal is certainly not something that you want to wanna hear from Moon, much less from a distant Galaxy!
2. GSM antennas are made to make signal disperse in horizontal wave from source...not upward!
3. GSM signal is not constant!
So a better idea of "radio dissipation" would be made from:
a) radio AM/FM signals
b) digital signal upload to geo-stationary sattelites
c) digital upload from DSN to rovers or probes in our Solar systems
d) radar images we use for NEO (from NORAD radars & Arecibo)
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Message 1744150 - Posted: 23 Nov 2015, 2:16:02 UTC

Why wouldn't they use radio?
Because in a Dyson Swarm you would be light seconds to light hours away from the other party and if there ARE any faster alternatives they'd probably be used...
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Message 1744616 - Posted: 24 Nov 2015, 23:34:43 UTC

http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/22/quantum-entanglement-at-room-temperature/
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Message 1744715 - Posted: 25 Nov 2015, 10:45:52 UTC - in response to Message 1743369.  

I would love for this to end up proving we are not alone, but... how do we know this isn't orbiting remnants of two celestial bodies that smashed into each other? Couldn't that be more likely? Could this be the beginning of an asteroid belt like we see around Sol??
Are there any observations to discount or support the idea?

I am slow to jump on this wagon and have started asking my naieve questions here. Seems like a great place.
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Message 1744853 - Posted: 25 Nov 2015, 19:43:56 UTC - in response to Message 1744715.  

I would love for this to end up proving we are not alone, but... how do we know this isn't orbiting remnants of two celestial bodies that smashed into each other? Couldn't that be more likely? Could this be the beginning of an asteroid belt like we see around Sol??
Are there any observations to discount or support the idea?

I am slow to jump on this wagon and have started asking my naieve questions here. Seems like a great place.

A collision is possible - one theory has a passing star pulling a cloud of comets into a tighter orbit - that same star may have instead disturbed an outer planet and set up a collision.
But what we're seeing shouldn't be the remnants of a proto-planetary disc or the formation of a new asteroid belt. Given it's age it should have a fairly ordered system by now.
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Message 1744885 - Posted: 25 Nov 2015, 22:21:09 UTC

The confirmation by the Spitzer Space Telescope that there is minimal dust in the Tabby's Star system seems to argue against planetary collisions. Such events would leave behind a great deal of dust.

Although it's said that comets would produce less dust, it seems that in a case like Tabby's Star, where an unprecedented dimming of up to 22 percent exists, any supposed comets must have left a great deal of extraordinarily dense dust. I'd have thought that this should have be detected, if it was present.

Another explanation for the absence of substantial dust in this system is that the dimming is caused by much larger objects, conceivably even artificial ones.
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Message 1744989 - Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 10:16:04 UTC

Well being 1,465 light years from Earth means a radio beam would take 1,465 Years just to reach it.
I doubt that answer would even return for about 1400 years

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Message 1751706 - Posted: 25 Dec 2015, 22:37:28 UTC
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I just watched this video on YouTube and I had a thought maybe it is not a Dyson Swarm or Comets. Maybe it is just years of space junk. ; )

https://youtu.be/wPXCk85wMSQ
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