IMO the bond market has been manipulated since the repeal of Glass Steagll. That maybe the worst thing the Clinton administration did possibly over shadowing NAFTA.

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Well guys I've tried to allow him to be informed that's about all I can do . Good Luck Zoom with what ever decision you make but please don't whine when it goes wrong .

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IMO the bond market has been manipulated since the repeal of Glass Steagll. That maybe the worst thing the Clinton administration did possibly over shadowing NAFTA.

Wasn't that also in with their redefinition of the Community Reinvestment Act, which had been working fine since the Carter administration?

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I wouldn't vote for a Republican, if My life depended on it, nor would I vote for anything they propose, that is all I have to know, profit is not a bad thing, that I understand, at is all I need to know, don't like this post? KMA.

Pension funds are not bonds, they are contracted agreements and are self funding, CA pays down its bonds and has been at an accelerated rate, which is also good.

Republicans point to pension funds and want them changed, lawsuit and lawyer time..

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

I'm glad the sobs can't get there greedy fingers on my money . Don't like your pension funds .

I reackon I get a better deal , being able to say where all the funds go not contracted under some law .

My Money ....up them !!!

Capitalism rules yehhhhhhh

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I'm glad the sobs can't get there greedy fingers on my money . Don't like your pension funds .

I reackon I get a better deal , being able to say where all the funds go not contracted under some law .

My Money ....up them !!!

Capitalism rules yehhhhhhh

Our US and State Constitutions are our highest laws, We have a bunch of crazies who like crazy ideas here, not to mention bigoted ideas, picking and choosing what to obey, in Article 1, Section 8, it says: "Provide for the General Welfare", The US is the oldest welfare state, Republican crazies hate this idea, Borrowing money is also Constitutional, as is spelled out in the same Article.

http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html
Article 1 - The Legislative Branch
Section 8 - Powers of Congress


The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and General Welfare of the United States; but all

Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States

respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress,

become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be,

for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United

States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

We also have a constitution but if it's wrong then it's wrong .

I would check before you say we change it we don't . Most changes proposed have failed . But then we dot need it to be changed and it does not hinder or stop our Government from running the country ....

And yet I think I have more freedom . Your Pension fund rule tell that .

Your Money so how can your government tell you this much must be spent on Government Bonds aren't you the land of the free !! maybe a bit more of the brave is called for and take the SOB's on and get control back

Your Money , Your choice where it goes

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We also have a constitution but if it's wrong then it's wrong .

I would check before you say we change it we don't . Most changes proposed have failed . But then we dot need it to be changed and it does not hinder or stop our Government from running the country ....

And yet I think I have more freedom . Your Pension fund rule tell that .

Your Money so how can your government tell you this much must be spent on Government Bonds aren't you the land of the free !! maybe a bit more of the brave is called for and take the SOB's on and get control back

Your Money , Your choice where it goes

We have a system of checks and balances here, 3 equal branches of Government, Constitutions are not thrown out here, nor does the US have a parliamentarian Government or a Confederacy either for that matter. And in 2016 there is a National election coming up, some states are under what is called Gerrymandering to favor one political party, the Republicans did this, but this is not everywhere in the US. Gerrymandered states are under a Republican Occupation, Sane America is not.

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

"so I've read"

One of Vic's problems is that he spends all day surfing the web and believing everything he sees. He doesn't seem to be able to distinguish between actual facts and propaganda lobby sites with their own agenda. And his response to any criticism is "that is all I need to know, don't like this post? KMA".

States in the US can not go bankrupt, it's not allowed at all,

Federal bankruptcy laws don't allow a State to declare bankruptcy, but it doesn't stop cities like Detroit doing so, which materially affect their State anyway.

The US is the oldest welfare state,

The American Constitution is dated 1789, The UK had The Poor Relief Act 1601 popularly known as the "Elizabethan Poor Law", which created a national poor law system for England and Wales.

I know the difference Chris and no I don't surf the web all day, nor do I believe everything I see.
I wasn't talking about jurisdictions lower than a US State..
I stand corrected.

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

Sometimes I wonder about some of them with there finger on the BUTTON :-)

History didn't start in 1789 just like it didn't start for us in 1901 our Federation

as you say Vic you have a election . Don't listen to the B/S about the economy .

You have a computer are probably on a few social web sites use it to tell them . Cut the CRAP and run the country for all .

Don't think social networks don't have any power they do and more than most realise at the moment

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Sometimes I wonder about some of them with there finger on the BUTTON :-)

History didn't start in 1789 just like it didn't start for us in 1901 our Federation

as you say Vic you have a election . Don't listen to the B/S about the economy .

You have a computer are probably on a few social web sites use it to tell them . Cut the CRAP and run the country for all .

Don't think social networks don't have any power they do and more than most realise at the moment

The US Constitution was voted on in a 9-4 vote in the year 1791, from 1781-1791 the US operated under the failed Articles of Confederation, between 1776 and 1781 there was no governing document, just Congress and the Continental Army and the Continental Navy/Marines, the only other significant US Document was the US Declaration of Independence, which was signed on July 4th 1776.

Night all, I'm going to bed.

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

CA needs to do something about its water management, allowing all the pumping of water from aquifers and not replacing it, is not a good idea, as this will lead to an end of that supply.

It also ends up in the oceans, either through evaporation or being flushed down the toilet at the end of the food chain, and therefore leads to sea level rise.

CA needs to do something about its water management, allowing all the pumping of water from aquifers and not replacing it, is not a good idea, as this will lead to an end of that supply.

It also ends up in the oceans, either through evaporation or being flushed down the toilet at the end of the food chain, and therefore leads to sea level rise.

What does end up in the oceans keeps salt water out of the ground under our feet and is brackish water by then, salt contamination of the water table will mean plants that are not salt tolerant will die, as will animals, others who can move will move.

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

"so I've read"

One of Vic's problems is that he spends all day surfing the web and believing everything he sees. He doesn't seem to be able to distinguish between actual facts and propaganda lobby sites with their own agenda. And his response to any criticism is "that is all I need to know, don't like this post? KMA".

Or bother to look at the merits of a proposal. Like far to many, it is who proposes, not what is proposed that is voted upon. Perfect little ditto heads they are.

http://www.sgvtribune.com/government-and-politics/20151117/is-a-plan-to-use-high-speed-rail-money-for-water-projects-too-political-to-win
Watermaster wrote:

Kenneth Manning, executive director of the San Gabriel Basin Water Quality Authority and former CEO of the Chino Basin Watermaster, said the initiative could help fund local projects needed to trap storm water that rushes too fast to the ocean and is wasted. Re-directed high-speed rail funds could help fund additional spreading grounds in the San Fernando Valley and other parts of the region that replenish ground water supplies. He and others advocate low-cost projects, such as building storm-water filtration systems beneath playgrounds, ballfields and large parking lots.

“High-speed rail is not nearly a priority as needing a distribution system for water to meet the needs of the next century,” Manning said. When asked if killing high-speed rail was a problem, he answered: “That wouldn’t bother me.”

Me, I'd listen to the Watermaster.

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Speed Rail, Water, or Both-Wats Da Use?

It's All Gunna GET FLUSHED into Dee Ocean when DA BIG ONE HITS.

Da Big One won't 'scriminate 'tween DEM/Libs or Pukes. It will ALL Feed Da Fishes.

Got Quake? Tsunami?

YUPyepfOshOfOevA

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

Both Initiatives take the HSR Bond money from the CHSRA, the 2nd gives the Bond money to Water, while the 1st guts the CHSRA, whereas the 2nd does not do so, the 1st says that the Authority can only study HSR and can not buy or sell anything at all, plus if HSR is not Finished by 2025, the CHSRA is to be Dissolved.

Nowhere in the two Initiatives(Only one of which is actually on the Ballot in 2016, the HSR one has not qualified yet, neither provides any amount of water).

"Stop the Train-to-Nowhere Act of 2016"(1st)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9m407yyFerMNjBLLWg2ODdPX2s/view

"The Water Priorities Public Interest and Public Trust Constitutional Amendment and the New Surface Water and Groundwater Storage Facilities Bond Act of 2016"(2nd)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9m407yyFerMWXRiTEtLb2N2ZG8/view

Termed Out Senators Huff and Puff, er Runner, have launched both initiatives in an attempt to hoodwink the Voters, after not being able to do that in the State Legislature, who just looked at and then shredded the bill to gut and relocate the HSR money to Roads.

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

Unspectacular work marks first high-speed rail construction(Fresno Bee)

• A storm-drain line is among the utilities being re-routed in downtown Fresno by contractors for the California High-Speed Rail Authority.
• The utility work sets the stage for major construction to come this year on new high-speed rail underpasses at Ventura and Tulare streets in downtown Fresno.
• “We have to do all of this detail work before any major construction,” said Diana Gomez, of the California High-Speed Rail Authority.

Read more here: http://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/high-speed-rail/article19537908.html#storylink=cpy
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Old Fresno bar is first building demolished(Fresno Bee)

Properties owned by the CHSRA in the alignment being demolished.


Fresno River Viaduct for HSR track, under Construction..

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

That post makes very little sense, posting a picture of the water cycle, which most of us learned in school about the age of 14, indicates nothing about the time taken to replenish aquifers naturally.

It takes centuries (that's 100's of years), to replenish most aquifers naturally, unless done artificially with man made projects. And there is sometimes a problem with that politically because in some cases the place where aquifers are replenished in another state from where the water is used. If you don't believe me then ask the USGS.

And how the hell does water that runs off into the ocean stop salt water entering aquifers?
It is the high level of fresh water in aquifers that stops salt water entering the ground table and damaging the ground so that plants cannot grow. Go study salt water intrusion.

That post makes very little sense, posting a picture of the water cycle, which most of us learned in school about the age of 14, indicates nothing about the time taken to replenish aquifers naturally.

It takes centuries (that's 100's of years), to replenish most aquifers naturally, unless done artificially with man made projects. And there is sometimes a problem with that politically because in some cases the place where aquifers are replenished in another state from where the water is used. If you don't believe me then ask the USGS.

And how the hell does water that runs off into the ocean stop salt water entering aquifers?
It is the high level of fresh water in aquifers that stops salt water entering the ground table and damaging the ground so that plants cannot grow. Go study salt water intrusion.

Thanks WK. Vic's geology skills seem a bit rusty. Earlier he claimed the well he gets water from wasn't into an aquifer, but by definition if it comes up wet it is in an aquifer, dry bedrock not. Here, I think he was trying to talk about salt water intrusion in surface water, in a river delta and not subsurface into an aquifer.

As to someone else in the thread who wondered about an aquifer being pumped out and rising sea level, consider that it is the under ice (ground) lakes (aquifers) in the southern polar region that are what will raise the ocean level in global warming. So any addition of water to the water cycle results in some rise. If man is pumping enough to be measurable, I don't know, but we are pumping all over the world 24/7/365.

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it's not problem in rails, so that people start using them...
it's a problem of re-wiring your mind! a complete change of thinking!!!
;)

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