How does one determine "Intellligent Life"?

Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : How does one determine "Intellligent Life"?
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 · 2 · 3

AuthorMessage
Profile betreger Project Donor
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 29 Jun 99
Posts: 11361
Credit: 29,581,041
RAC: 66
United States
Message 1736575 - Posted: 24 Oct 2015, 0:35:50 UTC - in response to Message 1736557.  
Last modified: 24 Oct 2015, 0:36:48 UTC

And it is no more than self-arrogance to believe that you can lie, and bully your way through a civil discourse.

As one who has been following your postings I conclude you do not know the meaning of a civil discourse or you just don't care.
You can choose to behave that way if you want it's your karma.
ID: 1736575 · Report as offensive
Profile Philosopher8659

Send message
Joined: 21 Oct 15
Posts: 97
Credit: 2,696
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1736576 - Posted: 24 Oct 2015, 0:43:14 UTC - in response to Message 1736575.  

And I see you also believe going off topic is civil.

Or when pointed to information which explains what is asked, to whine that it is too difficult,that one should be somehow special and demand that a thing be retold to someone like they are a child?

You and I have very different concepts of civil. You don't go to dance naked.
https://archive.org/details/AUniversalLanguage

https://archive.org/details/TheDifferenceBetweenManAndBeast

https://archive.org/details/DelianQuest2015
ID: 1736576 · Report as offensive
John D Anthony

Send message
Joined: 4 Sep 15
Posts: 177
Credit: 1,303,001
RAC: 1
United States
Message 1736582 - Posted: 24 Oct 2015, 0:53:58 UTC - in response to Message 1736557.  

So you were referring to a statistical probability of intelligent life in the universe - based on the percentage of intelligent life on one planet?
ID: 1736582 · Report as offensive
Profile Philosopher8659

Send message
Joined: 21 Oct 15
Posts: 97
Credit: 2,696
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1736584 - Posted: 24 Oct 2015, 1:17:40 UTC - in response to Message 1736582.  
Last modified: 24 Oct 2015, 1:25:05 UTC

Do you really need reading lessons? Or is it you cannot contain yourself to what was stated? You now want to try and see if I am stupid enough to follow you into the concept that evolution and biology and complexity of life differs from itself because, you can close your eyes. How wonderful.

Your insecurity, in regard to the laws of causality and the Principles of Identity, is a personal issue which you might want to take up with someone who has a lot of free time, and lots or free drinks.
https://archive.org/details/AUniversalLanguage

https://archive.org/details/TheDifferenceBetweenManAndBeast

https://archive.org/details/DelianQuest2015
ID: 1736584 · Report as offensive
Profile betreger Project Donor
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 29 Jun 99
Posts: 11361
Credit: 29,581,041
RAC: 66
United States
Message 1736587 - Posted: 24 Oct 2015, 2:02:29 UTC - in response to Message 1736576.  

And I see you also believe going off topic is civil.

Or when pointed to information which explains what is asked, to whine that it is too difficult,that one should be somehow special and demand that a thing be retold to someone like they are a child?

You and I have very different concepts of civil. You don't go to dance naked.

The rules of these forums are that if the OP brings up a topic then it is on topic! You are the OP and you brought up civil discourse therefore it is on topic.
Show some respect for these forums or find something more to your taste.
I really don't care about whatever you choose to babel about but I do strongly object to your ad hominem attacks on others.
ID: 1736587 · Report as offensive
Profile Philosopher8659

Send message
Joined: 21 Oct 15
Posts: 97
Credit: 2,696
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1736588 - Posted: 24 Oct 2015, 2:05:25 UTC - in response to Message 1736587.  
Last modified: 24 Oct 2015, 2:08:21 UTC

Anyone can read the discourse here. And what you care or don't care about is still off topic and it is still uncivil. The observation of a thing does not create the thing observed. You must have had a difficult time in school.
https://archive.org/details/AUniversalLanguage

https://archive.org/details/TheDifferenceBetweenManAndBeast

https://archive.org/details/DelianQuest2015
ID: 1736588 · Report as offensive
rob smith Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 7 Mar 03
Posts: 22202
Credit: 416,307,556
RAC: 380
United Kingdom
Message 1736605 - Posted: 24 Oct 2015, 3:08:55 UTC

Anyone reading this discourse would have as hard a time working out what you are talking about because your approach to every question has been either to evade the question or insult the questioner on the basis that they don't understand what you are saying. Both of these acts demonstrate that you are attempting to act beyond either your skill or knowledge level.

I would suggest that you answer the question that has been laid before you in several posts, and that you do so not by referring to the works of others, so in your own words: "What is YOUR definition of 'intelligence'"?
Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?
ID: 1736605 · Report as offensive
Profile Philosopher8659

Send message
Joined: 21 Oct 15
Posts: 97
Credit: 2,696
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1736606 - Posted: 24 Oct 2015, 3:14:18 UTC - in response to Message 1736605.  
Last modified: 24 Oct 2015, 3:21:45 UTC

I would suggest that you follow the original post or quit commenting.

How many times do I have to say the exact same thing? How many ways? If you have difficulty with the English language, get a tutor. You would find the answer in the link referred to. Asking for me to retrieve the whole demonstration is arrogance and the act of a 5 year old.

The inability to follow a simple set of directives is not any different than talking to a tree.

The post was an invitation to discuss a fact based on specific material, so who in the hell do you think you are that you think you have any right to demand that I do differently than that?
https://archive.org/details/AUniversalLanguage

https://archive.org/details/TheDifferenceBetweenManAndBeast

https://archive.org/details/DelianQuest2015
ID: 1736606 · Report as offensive
Profile betreger Project Donor
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 29 Jun 99
Posts: 11361
Credit: 29,581,041
RAC: 66
United States
Message 1736609 - Posted: 24 Oct 2015, 3:31:47 UTC - in response to Message 1736588.  

You must have had a difficult time in school.

Nice ad hominem, I would think you should get points for this. You meet or exceed my expectations.
ID: 1736609 · Report as offensive
Profile Philosopher8659

Send message
Joined: 21 Oct 15
Posts: 97
Credit: 2,696
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1736611 - Posted: 24 Oct 2015, 3:35:03 UTC - in response to Message 1736609.  
Last modified: 24 Oct 2015, 3:46:33 UTC

Really? You cannot even use that term correctly. You expect that somehow a person's persistent behavior somehow originates from someplace else?

In the universe I come from, you call a spade a spake, and something else if it is not even as useful as a spade.

You cannot call it an ad hominem when you cannot even get to the topic, genius.

You might want to use a search function on the works of Aristotle and find out what he explicitly states about "thinks no better than a vegetable."
https://archive.org/details/AUniversalLanguage

https://archive.org/details/TheDifferenceBetweenManAndBeast

https://archive.org/details/DelianQuest2015
ID: 1736611 · Report as offensive
Profile betreger Project Donor
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 29 Jun 99
Posts: 11361
Credit: 29,581,041
RAC: 66
United States
Message 1736612 - Posted: 24 Oct 2015, 3:47:23 UTC - in response to Message 1736611.  

You cannot call it an ad hominem when you cannot even get to the topic, genius.

I did so don't say I could not! Therefore you are full of BS. Your logic is at best pathetic IMO.
ID: 1736612 · Report as offensive
Profile Philosopher8659

Send message
Joined: 21 Oct 15
Posts: 97
Credit: 2,696
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1736613 - Posted: 24 Oct 2015, 3:48:38 UTC - in response to Message 1736612.  
Last modified: 24 Oct 2015, 4:29:29 UTC

LAMO

So here. Right on the original post;

"Intelligence is determined by the principles of language functionally resident in a mind."

Now convince anyone that those who have posted in regard asking for this very same sentence is because they can read? Duh!

I thought I was asking for intelligent discourse, and my response was from those who cannot read. Amazing!

There, I provided the logic, and ya'll provided the lack of evidence. So not cool.

Let me break that down for you;

A definition equates the Subject Naming Convention to the Predicate Naming Convention. The Predicate Naming Convention provides the names of both the material of a thing and the form within which it resides.

Subject: Intelligence

Predicates: Material difference: the principles of language functional. The form or container: a mind.

You know: Same as Tom is a cat.

Subject Tom;
Predicates: Material difference "a" open variable.
Form: cat.

By the way, that pattern for definition can be not only found in the works of Plato, but Aristotle as well. Linguistic facts that did not survive in history, but which is biologically demonstrable.
https://archive.org/details/AUniversalLanguage

https://archive.org/details/TheDifferenceBetweenManAndBeast

https://archive.org/details/DelianQuest2015
ID: 1736613 · Report as offensive
Profile Philosopher8659

Send message
Joined: 21 Oct 15
Posts: 97
Credit: 2,696
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1736626 - Posted: 24 Oct 2015, 4:47:30 UTC - in response to Message 1736625.  
Last modified: 24 Oct 2015, 4:48:11 UTC

What's the matter, cannot wrap your brain around the topic? You cannot even resist the obvious lie. Give me a break.
https://archive.org/details/AUniversalLanguage

https://archive.org/details/TheDifferenceBetweenManAndBeast

https://archive.org/details/DelianQuest2015
ID: 1736626 · Report as offensive
Profile Angela Special Project $75 donor
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 Oct 07
Posts: 13130
Credit: 39,854,104
RAC: 31
United States
Message 1736627 - Posted: 24 Oct 2015, 4:50:47 UTC

I see we have an eruption of flame wars.

I am locking this thread at this time.
ID: 1736627 · Report as offensive
Previous · 1 · 2 · 3

Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : How does one determine "Intellligent Life"?


 
©2024 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.