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Message 1735495 - Posted: 19 Oct 2015, 20:31:11 UTC - in response to Message 1735470.  
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wow so quickly, in another article they said the initial seti survey was going to be in January 2016. maybe it got moved earlier with all the media hype. would be nice to get some real-time updates here in the forum :( but maybe the forums might be under scrutiny after all the attention, and if it turns out to be a "mundane" phenomenon, it might hurt seti's mission to have the public being disappointed.

nope...they even posted on FB that they started using ATA...
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lets send a message beamed at them and tell them where we are. In 3000 years we will know if we reached an intelligent civilization 1500 years ago.

well, I wouldn't want Kardasians, Klingons or Dominians know about us...so, lets watch it first!

then, we can decide if we wanna talk to a K2 or K3 civilization...remember, we as a pebble 0,72 on K scale... :/

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Message 1735538 - Posted: 20 Oct 2015, 0:21:22 UTC
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Wait a minute, don't we already have Kardasians on Earth? ... What? Oh...
That's Kardashians. Well, never mind then...
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Message 1735648 - Posted: 20 Oct 2015, 7:00:33 UTC - in response to Message 1735470.  
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wow so quickly, in another article they said the initial seti survey was going to be in January 2016. maybe it got moved earlier with all the media hype. would be nice to get some real-time updates here in the forum :( but maybe the forums might be under scrutiny after all the attention, and if it turns out to be a "mundane" phenomenon, it might hurt seti's mission to have the public being disappointed.

This is the ever present confusion between SETI@home and the SETI Institute, which has at least one third of the observing time of the Allen Telescope Array, while SETI@home is depending on Arecibo.
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Message 1735698 - Posted: 20 Oct 2015, 14:08:45 UTC - in response to Message 1735648.  
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Maybe the objects are not the product of life but are actually the life itself,
not necessarily particularly intelligent or technological but evolved to be
big and independently orbiting their sun.
Just a thought, Tony Eadington.
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Message 1735723 - Posted: 20 Oct 2015, 20:41:25 UTC
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Message 1736296 - Posted: 23 Oct 2015, 0:13:28 UTC - in response to Message 1735723.  

Alien Engineering Around Strange Star?

Seth Shostak

There's a new big dipper in the nighttime sky.

No, it's not a cozy constellation, but a distant, non-descript star that behaves like a shipboard semaphore, beaming flashes of light into the cosmic darkness that seem random, but may not be.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-shostak/alien-engineering-around_b_8353762.html
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Message 1737164 - Posted: 26 Oct 2015, 11:40:50 UTC - in response to Message 1735698.  

Maybe the objects are not the product of life but are actually the life itself,
not necessarily particularly intelligent or technological but evolved to be
big and independently orbiting their sun.
Just a thought, Tony Eadington.

sthg like this:
https://youtu.be/K8la_GCPK0w?t=2m
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Message 1737212 - Posted: 26 Oct 2015, 15:23:30 UTC - in response to Message 1735698.  

Maybe the objects are not the product of life but are actually the life itself,
not necessarily particularly intelligent or technological but evolved to be
big and independently orbiting their sun.
Just a thought, Tony Eadington.


I like that thought. :~)
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Message 1737688 - Posted: 28 Oct 2015, 7:42:05 UTC

The science channel ran a five minute update on what's being done to determine the nature of the strange observations of this star. Not much new stuff but they are not ruling out a non natural cause.
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Message 1737703 - Posted: 28 Oct 2015, 9:55:03 UTC - in response to Message 1737688.  
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The science channel ran a five minute update on what's being done to determine the nature of the strange observations of this star. Not much new stuff but they are not ruling out a non natural cause.

seems like a "waste of time" right now, if the structure will not be dimming the Star!

is there a way to automate a K2 mission?!
so we can see when the Star starts to "dim" again...
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Message 1737730 - Posted: 28 Oct 2015, 13:25:28 UTC - in response to Message 1737703.  

I thought that this was a more rapidly repeating series of events. I presume it has occurred more than once ?
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Message 1737731 - Posted: 28 Oct 2015, 13:28:25 UTC - in response to Message 1737703.  

seems like a "waste of time" right now, if the structure will not be dimming the Star!

is there a way to automate a K2 mission?!
so we can see when the Star starts to "dim" again...
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I see your point, but I guess it's assumed that the star is continuing the same dimming pattern.
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Message 1737734 - Posted: 28 Oct 2015, 13:32:46 UTC - in response to Message 1737730.  

I thought that this was a more rapidly repeating series of events. I presume it has occurred more than once ?

not rapidly within a days...but rapidly in a course of a year...
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Message 1737808 - Posted: 28 Oct 2015, 19:21:16 UTC

The SETI Institiute listened again for intelligent radio signals from the star KIC 8462852, on Tuesday. They had presumably finished installed the new, cryogenically-cooled receivers, and so enjoyed doubled, or better, sensitivity, over the equipment they used last week.
They are reportedly listening for both narrow band signals, such as from a single transmitter, and more widely for the combined effect of a number of signals, all occurring at once.
Their stated plan is the listen to this star through the end of the month. Any monitoring beyond that time would suggest that their results were, at least to some extent, encouraging.
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Message 1738548 - Posted: 31 Oct 2015, 15:14:35 UTC

This would be a good time to create a crowdfunding campaign for research to study the star KIC 8462852.
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Message 1738576 - Posted: 31 Oct 2015, 16:06:35 UTC - in response to Message 1738548.  

ATA costs one million dollars/year for operating costs. Part of this is paid by the US Air Force.
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Message 1738581 - Posted: 31 Oct 2015, 16:24:46 UTC

...is that the "dish time" cost, or the total operating cost?
I suspect that is only the dish time as the analysis costs are going to be very much dependent upon what analysis is being performed.
For a short notice, high intensity survey you could probably double or treble the cost per hour for the dish, and have between ten and twenty times that set aside for the first pass analysis, never mind any more detailed analysis that comes out from that - say a cool five million or so.
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Message 1738584 - Posted: 31 Oct 2015, 16:31:38 UTC

Hmm, just found some figures for the GBT - ten million dollars a year, and 6500 hours of observation, that means about $1550 per hour - again just for the dish, never mind all the back room stuff that is needed - my initial guess sounds a bit light....
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Message 1738617 - Posted: 31 Oct 2015, 20:12:44 UTC

This is why distributed volunteer computing is important. It makes easier to analyze data without a supercomputer and its costs. Still many people have underestimated our effort. I am running 4 CERN projects, one Oxford UNI/UK Meteorological Office, one Albert Einstein Institut and SETI@home. All on my pensioner budget.
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Message 1738635 - Posted: 31 Oct 2015, 21:20:27 UTC

You aren't actually running the projects, you are running work for those projects you list - you don't fund the time for the admin staff for the data collection, distribution programming etc that all allow us to contribute out time.
For a long term project like SETI where we get the data "for free", because it doesn't actually matter where in the sky it comes from there isn't much data collection cost, but to set up to observe and collect radio data from KIC 8462852 will not be a "get what we can job, but it will be a "buy lots of dish and receiver time" job - and that costs a lot more.
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